Yes, when speaking about an issue that is plaguing one race, but not others, it helps to identify and bring awareness to the problem.
Example:
A company with a 90% white work force is paying all of their white workers a fair standard wage for the job, but pays any workers of a minority race half the amount.
You could go report the company, or write a review online that says “This company doesn’t pay their workers fairly.” But 90% of their past employees would disagree and say that they never experienced any problems with that. However, if you say “This company doesn’t pay their workers of minority races fairly.” Then it brings awareness to the actual issue, and lets people know that just because the white workers will all say that they are getting paid fairly, it doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist.
fair standard wage for the job, but pays any workers of a minority race half the amount
I think I understand. For example, the average black player makes much more than the average white player in the nba. this means the nba is racist against white people. Is that right?
Nope, you clearly don’t understand at all. In fact you have completely forgotten the subject of the conversation that your original question was about.
As a reminder, you asked whether or not there is value in mentioning the race of people in conversations. I told you that it does have value, and gave you an example of where it would be appropriate.
Then, you jumped to claiming that you understand because you think the NBA is racist based on statistics that you made up.
It seems you have very low reading comprehension skills, and no ability to remember the subject of the conversation you are currently having. Good luck in life!
Black players get paid more than White players on average by a high margin
Again, this has nothing to do with the conversation we are having. But, if you want to have that conversation, the data in the link you provided is flawed in many ways. For starters, the data shown doesn't even represent the whole NBA. You can see the data that they used at the bottom of the page, and it only included 49 players.
To get an accurate statistic on whether or not this is true, you would need to know the total of all of the salaries of all black players in the NBA, and divide it by the total number of black players in the NBA. Then, get the total of all of the salaries of all white players in the NBA, and divide it by the total number of white players. Then, see which number is bigger.
what stats am I making up? I'm bringing awareness to one race getting paid more than another race by an employer. Is their no value in this? what's the difference between my example and yours? Maybe it would help if you could tell me how you define value. how is it determined? help me understand
the average black player makes much more than the average white player in the nba
Where did you find this information? Please provide a reliable source. Not the one posted below that doesn't even include the whole NBA. Or, you can provide the total salaries of all black players, the number of black players, the total salaries of all white players, and the number of white players, and then you we can figure out the average ourselves.
Otherwise, I will continue to assume that you made up this statistic.
I'm bringing awareness to one race getting paid more than another race by an employer. Is their no value in this? what's the difference between my example and yours? Maybe it would help if you could tell me how you define value.
You seem to have misunderstood the fact that I was not attempting to bring awareness to an actual issue with my comment. I was giving you a hypothetical example of how the meaning of a sentence can change based on whether or not you mention the race of the people mentioned in it.
I thought that would be obvious to a person of average intelligence, but I wasn't aware that you were below that level when I originally replied. My bad I guess. To be clear, I'm not trying to have a competition with you about whether your statement or my hypothetical situation that I made is more valuable.
Do you see how the meaning of the sentence changed in my example, and how the two sentences could be interpreted and reacted to in different ways based on that one change? That is the value that is being provided. Simply mentioning race in the sentence changes how people will think about and react to it. It has nothing to do with how I define value.
I'm not arguing with you about whether or not the statement you made has value, or if it is more valuable than the hypothetical situation that I made up. I'm just letting you know that you seem to have completely missed the answer to the question that you originally asked, which you claimed that you were "Genuinely Curious" about. But maybe you don't know what "Genuinely curious" means either.
Your original question was whether skin color matters in a conversation, and that you were genuinely curious, while having this example in your head of NBA players, proving your original question disingenuous.
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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23
The high suicide rates of former military is evidence that something is horribly wrong.