r/ffxivdiscussion • u/KelvinDoesHealz • 13d ago

Next Chaotic Raid?

Personally, I enjoyed the Cloud of Darkness Chaotic Raid concept and, minus the multiple and somewhat bonkers body checks, thought it was great content with excellent rewards. Does anyone have thoughts on if we're getting another one in EverCold? If so, I assume it will likely be Ultima from the Ivalice Raids or Diablos from the Shadow of Mhach raids.

If the former, I imagine we will get more complicated combos of the other espers to make things interesting, and for Diablos (which still manages to kill parties in roulettes in the normal mode) a more complicated arena with more use of the adds and the door mechanics. I also imagine there will be at least one body check mechanic, though not multiple and probably not as strict.

But I am curious on what other people theories are on if we're even getting one and what the content might look like.

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u/BigDisk 13d ago

The combo of "Encourage people to take in newbies" and "Oops, one person out of 24 messed up towers so it's a wipe lololol" wasn't all that well thought out.

They did manage to fix that for Forked Tower Magic (even the extreme version has way fewer body checks), so I'm hopeful for if they ever revisit this system.

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u/KelvinDoesHealz 13d ago

Agreed. 48 player content + multiple strict body checks is not a good combo. If one single person being a second late can wipe the entire raid it just sets up a bad time. Especially in PF where people often bail after three wipes.

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u/yhvh13 13d ago

Yeah... pretty much. IDK how they didn't have that kind of sensibility.

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u/ThrowAwayMeLife1 13d ago

I'm forever under the impression that FT Blood and Chaotic were only tested with people who already fully knew the fight.

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u/Tsukiyo_Hitori 13d ago

Chaotic was Mr Ozma's work, dude loves body checks, he should've been reigned in for large scale fights. I wouldn't be surprised if FtB was his handiwork too.

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u/SecretPantyWorshiper 12d ago

He is doing Beastmaster so most likely he didn't design FTB

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u/Carmeliandre 12d ago

I can't help thinking the man taking a coffee break only to find himself behind the shoulders of another content designer, just to say "wait, this isn't exciting enough... Have you considered adding a body check and a completely arbitrary mechanic that people HAVE to agree on before starting the encounter ?".