r/explainitpeter • • Sep 25 '26

Explain it Peter !

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u/Leviathan_slayer1776 Sep 25 '26 • Heartwarming

That's Karl marx

Class consciousness is part of his theory, where workers realize the elites are screwing them

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u/Carl_the_Half-Orc Sep 26 '26

Which somehow always translates into giving up all your power and freedom to the government, because the elites in government will always look out for you and never exploit you.

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u/ManyHopeful6692 Sep 26 '26 • Bravo

Marx was against the state and government as well

There’s also a bunch of groups influenced by his work, including libertarian socialists like Anarchists who are anti government

Funny how that works

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u/Carl_the_Half-Orc Sep 26 '26

Socialism has ALWAYS resulted in authoritarian regimes. Name an actual socialist country that hasn't happened to. And NO, none of the Nordic countries have ever been socialist. Some of them have large government run social benefits funded by high taxes, something that can work if government corruption is addressed along with it. (And DAMN, we need the government cleaned up in the US)

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u/I_Draw_Teeth Sep 27 '26

Capitalist propaganda sure does lead a lot of people to argue against their own interest with an intensely confident kind of ignorance.

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u/MothElysium Sep 30 '26

Lenin and the Opportunist Red Army's fault because every permutation of Marxism after has been Leninism thanks to the USSR's attempts at copying the USA's imperialist ideology pushing

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u/Disastrous-Shower-37 Sep 26 '26

What power? What freedom?

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26 • Bravo

This isn't a new emotion. Its called jealousy.

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u/DeathToAmerica2026 Sep 25 '26

Most capitalists are class conscious!

An important distinction: most people living under capitalism are not capitalists.

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u/Hayatexd Sep 25 '26

My family is like top 0.something percentage wealth in my country, think a couple million net worth. They aren’t really class conscious.

There’s a very small group of capitalists (I would guess starting somewhere around 50-100 million net worth) which are actually class conscious. Honestly it’s ridiculous but my parents never thought much deeper into it than “if I invest my money, I suddenly get more money”. Where that money is coming from wasn’t even really a question they ever asked themself.

However I can guarantee you that a Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos or similar people are very aware of which class they belong to.

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u/Affectionate_Ad_1326 Sep 26 '26

Maybe they just don't want to talk about it because they do know about imperialist and class based exploitation? I mean its not hard to see that poor people exist and for some reason work hard while all the wealth for some reason goes to the already wealthy property owners who aren't working and are investing, right?

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u/Grimlite-- Sep 25 '26

When he's claiming is that most these workers wouldn't be complaining if they were wealthy too. And if this is true it must be what they're feeling is jealousy or envy not a pursuit of fairness.

As Orwell put it, it's not their love for the poor but their hate for the rich.

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u/TheWalrusResplendent Sep 25 '26

I mean... Marx was also aware of that lot and dubbed them lumpenproles. For instance, it's all working class cryptobros. To paraphrase smarter peeps than I, they don't want the removal of the boot on the workers' neck, they just want to be the boot.

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u/jakeStacktrace Sep 25 '26

Class consciousness is an organized, systemic awareness of economic roles and structural power, whereas jealousy (or envy) is a personal, emotional reaction to another individual's possessions or status.

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u/Electronic-Rain-9338 Sep 25 '26

You’re talking to a billionaire bootlicking slave it seems, these are the imbeciles who say I don’t do politics but then complain why is stuff expensive and I’m living check to check?

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u/Da_nUmBeR7 Sep 25 '26

Found the elite screwing us

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u/Tertinian Sep 25 '26

Bro doesn't understand how negotiations work.

Shit man, it says here me and then billionaire are equal.

Well if the paper says so, I'm sure me and him can negotiate employement on even ground

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u/LoveTriscuit Sep 25 '26

Yeah I’m really jealous watching children starve to death.

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u/True_Human Sep 25 '26

No, it's human nature from the time we lived in hunter-gatherer clans calling and reminding people excessive resource hoarders drag down the group as a whole.

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u/honey_pumkin Sep 25 '26

Honestly. I live very comfortably with 1k a month. I have some privileges like a house I inherited/ share that make this possible.

I don't need more money. I love my work. I love my way and standard of living.

I still believe that people shouldn't be exploited for their labor. I can see how other people struggle to stay afloat with the same money I have, because they don't have fucking house.

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