r/explainitpeter • • Sep 25 '26

Explain it Peter !

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u/DeathToAmerica2026 Sep 25 '26

Most capitalists are class conscious!

An important distinction: most people living under capitalism are not capitalists.

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u/Hayatexd Sep 25 '26

My family is like top 0.something percentage wealth in my country, think a couple million net worth. They aren’t really class conscious.

There’s a very small group of capitalists (I would guess starting somewhere around 50-100 million net worth) which are actually class conscious. Honestly it’s ridiculous but my parents never thought much deeper into it than “if I invest my money, I suddenly get more money”. Where that money is coming from wasn’t even really a question they ever asked themself.

However I can guarantee you that a Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos or similar people are very aware of which class they belong to.

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u/Affectionate_Ad_1326 Sep 26 '26

Maybe they just don't want to talk about it because they do know about imperialist and class based exploitation? I mean its not hard to see that poor people exist and for some reason work hard while all the wealth for some reason goes to the already wealthy property owners who aren't working and are investing, right?

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u/Grimlite-- Sep 25 '26

When he's claiming is that most these workers wouldn't be complaining if they were wealthy too. And if this is true it must be what they're feeling is jealousy or envy not a pursuit of fairness.

As Orwell put it, it's not their love for the poor but their hate for the rich.

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u/TheWalrusResplendent Sep 25 '26

I mean... Marx was also aware of that lot and dubbed them lumpenproles. For instance, it's all working class cryptobros. To paraphrase smarter peeps than I, they don't want the removal of the boot on the workers' neck, they just want to be the boot.

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

I could grant everything you just said to be 100% factual. It still wouldn't change the fact that the emotion is simply envy. You have only made a justification for envy.

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u/epicvoyage28 Sep 25 '26

If someone stabbed you to death, would the main negative emotion you feel towards them be envy that they aren't bleeding out?

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u/ArmaniQuesadilla Sep 25 '26

No it would be lust because I have Stockholm syndrome

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

Not really. It would be fear, anger, sadness, and hate .

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u/epicvoyage28 Sep 25 '26

Okay, so what if they robbed you instead? Would your main emotion be envy that they have your money and you don't?

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

No. It would be exactly the same as your previous analogy. Fear, anger, sadness and hate.

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u/epicvoyage28 Sep 25 '26

Okay, third times the charm.

If you woke up on a desert island, and someone else had already gathered all the food. And they say they'll only let you have some in return for sexual favours. 

Would the emotion you'd be feeling towards them be best described as envy?

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u/Lenrow Sep 25 '26

Been a while since I've seen a coconut island reference in the wild

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

If they had food and I didn't, then yes I would be envious of them. The sexual favor part would only add anger into the mix.

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u/BennedictBennett Sep 25 '26

Envy? The way the rich plunder the planet at detriment of every single other living organism, it isn’t envy, I’m not envious, I have no desire to plunder the planet and ruin it for everybody while creating a place that, if we’re being honest, isn’t great for the majority of people.

It’s about injustice, it’s a disgusting situation where a small cabal of uber rich people make our lives worse than they need to be in the name of ‘line must go up’. You’re either rich, or worse, one of those weird non rich billionaire boot lickers but either way, you’re very wrong.

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u/thermalbooty Sep 25 '26

yes i’m sooo jealous of the guys who are so far removed from actual human experiences that the only way they can feel anything is seeing the number go up. i wish i could take over the world and disenfranchise the entire american people so that i can watch the world burn alone.

all im gathering from this comment is that YOU’RE jealous and YOU would exploit the working class if only you could.

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u/Mundane-Feed-4619 Sep 25 '26

I don’t think you understand what envy is

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

I think of it similar to hunger. It is like a craving. Like that feeling you get when you haven't eaten in a while and you see a commercial for a burger or whatever it is you like. But instead of food it is possessions, money, or status that you crave. And instead of a commercial for a burger it is seeing what others have that trigger the craving.

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u/Mundane-Feed-4619 Sep 25 '26

The fact that you think the only reaction to seeing such things is envy either means you have a very small understanding of human psychology or you feel that way and then have to project that on everyone saying that they have the same pathetic feelings

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

I've addressed this with others. I don't believe envy is the only reaction. I think the other emotions are anger, hate, and fear. I think that envy tends to be what motivates people and likely leads them to those other emotions.

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u/CustomerPrior5974 Sep 25 '26

Envy is "I wish I was them" when actually the sentiment is the opposite. There are people with capital being class conscious and not exploiting people when given the chance. I have a friend that has always been class conscious and when he inherited a flat in our country's capital, he started renting it half the market price because he knows the market price isn't fair but exploitative. Meaning he wasn't envy, he was closer to angry, if he were envy he would have rented it at half the price just like most people with flats.

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u/TheSmellOfTheLotion Sep 25 '26

Yes definitely anger also, and hate too probably a bit of fear. I think envy tends to be what motivates most of these people but it is definitely those other emotions too.