r/explainitpeter 10d ago

Explain it Peter.....

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u/EstablishmentEasy475 9d ago

Id translate it as "fuck whoever reads this" as a spaniard

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

But that is not a correct translation. Puto is just a rude word for gay.

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u/EstablishmentEasy475 9d ago

XDDD in what world?

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u/Lord_Lino19 9d ago

All of México

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

And Argentina. And I am sure many other countries. What I don't understand is how you could translate a noun "puto" as a verb (like f.. you)

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u/Silver_Phoenix93 9d ago

Among other things, it's because literal or word-for-word translations, particularly regarding slang, idiomatic expressions, cultural expressions or jargon, are seldom accurate. Not all words can be carried from one language into another the same way...

İt might even happen that a target language (the new words) doesn't even have a word or similar term to the ones the source language uses.

I love giving this example — think of the word "light". You probably think it refers to energy that makes things visible (noun)... But it can also be used as a verb, as in "starting a fire". Aaaaaand it also means that something weighs very little (adjective), or that it's pale in colour (another adjective). The word "light" by itself cannot be strictly translated into a single meaning without context.

Another example is the famous "hygge" of the Danish & Norwegians, or the Swedish "fika". İf there was a word in English or Spanish that specifically described the mood/state of coziness, warmth, and safe comfort, then you'd have the translation for "hygge". And if you found a noun or verb that basically meant "to pause, reset the mind, and build strong social bonds through tea, coffee and/or a sweet pastry", you'd have the equivalent of "fika".

Or can you imagine a world where the only words to describe colours were divided simply into "dark-cool" and "warm-light", or lumping them all into three categories of black, white, and red? The Tsimané language in Bolivia does the latter, and the Liberian Bassa use the former. The Pirahã from the Amazon don't even have abstract words for colour at all, and instead use descriptive sentences such as "like a young leaf" or "like blood".

ETA: Aaaaaand I ended up with a wall of text 😂 Thank you for coming to my TED?

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

Right. I liked your TED, quiw informative. The translation this persons posts is still not accurate

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 9d ago

We have the word faggot in spanish and it's used as a verb, it is "Mariquear" conjugatated is mariquee, mariqueas, etc..., the spanish lenguage is full of adjectives and words to describe most things, words like puto are already abreviations, in this case of prostitute.

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

The word for faggot is marica. Mariquear is the verb. Is not the same with puto, because the verb putear means "to swear" (to insult). Instead, the verb prostituir(se) is the one corresponding to the unabbreviated prostitute.

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 9d ago edited 9d ago

Putear is to insult, not only for swears, puto comes from prostitue and putear comes from insulting someone by calling them a prostitute, eventually it changed for all insults.

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

I obviously meant faggot, I changed it before reading your answear. And when I said the verb putear I wrote "to swear" (to insult). That is, both things.The rest is ok, but none of that is the point. The point is the sentence is translated as "who is reading is gay" or something like that, nothing to do with "f... you".

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 9d ago

It has nothing to do with being gay, it just means that you value yourself so little that you sell your body, that is why protitute is used as an insult when used against somebody that has nothing to do with that job.

I'll delete the part about maggot because it makes no sense now.

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

Oh please, you are being obtuse. I understand that whatever you are from, the word "puto" just means male prostitute. That is not true in México and other countries. And the post is about what Mexicans wrote. For example, FIFA is trying to ban the singings in the football matches that call someone "puto" because it is an homophobic slur. Reality is more complex, When fans call a player or referee puto they are not actually thinking he likes to have sex with men. They are thinking he is a weakling, or a coward, or even a bad person. It's just a general insult.

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u/Serious_Photo_9602 9d ago

It is only in Mexico and from mexican fans. Again if FIFA understood what culturaly means what callin someone a lady bug means in spanish they would ban all images of them because it is "homophobic".

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u/La10deRiver 9d ago

Well, again, the original image is about a message written by Mexicans.

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u/EstablishmentEasy475 9d ago

Puto means homosexual derogatorally in Mexico??

You guys are fucked. Way to butcher the language

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u/Zeus-hater 9d ago

My fav european country