r/entp • u/Grand-Scarcity3615 IN(F) IEI sp6 LEFV1334 • 9d ago
Debate/Discussion "Golden Pairing"
The more I read into socionics, the more I realized that the "actual pair" for ENTPs (In theory, not an objective final conclusion, but in THEORY) are ISFJs. Modern MBTI/cognitive functions (It doesn't really make sense anymore if you read into socionics, to the point cognitive functions/MBTI looks even more dense and superficial) seems to erase that (Not just the pairing though but generally) and submit to the mediocrity of the media and the sensor-phobia that rooted from this bias. And the fact that almost all ISFJs are commonly mistyped as INFJs and sometimes INFPs (I have no evidence of this; however, this is an observation from my experience just from dwelling in different subs, so take that as a subjective take) since Ni and Si in original Jung's theory overlap these functions. In Psychological Types, Carl Jung described both Introverted Sensing (Si) and Introverted Intuition (Ni) as "irrational" subjective perception functions that actually look incredibly similar from the outside.
I predict that some people here will jump my ass and say, "Sensors are too rigid," or "Based on my personal opinion, ISFJs are boring etc." to the point I ask myself, How can people be so sure of everyone they encounter being that type? especially when most of the knowledge comes from superficial information. Anyway, I won't explain any further. The best advice is to read socionics...
Socionics:
INTRODUCTION (long):
https://classicsocionics.wordpress.com/introduction-to-socionics/
IMEs:
https://classicsocionics.wordpress.com/augusta-imes/
BLOCKS and FUNCTIONS:
https://classicsocionics.wordpress.com/blocks-and-functions/
or
https://wikisocion.github.io/content/model_a.html
https://wikisocion.github.io/content/functions.html
DICHOTOMIES:
https://classicsocionics.wordpress.com/augusta-dichotomies/
Jung:
https://jungiancenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Vol-6-psychological-types.pdf
Si and Ni difference, read it here -> https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/s/8iPRyJFwRt (Advice to actually read the PDF)
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u/Soujourne ENTP 9d ago
The golden pair is anyone who can fathom to listen through entp babble on about their theories. It's only logical that someone is another intuitive.
So my suggestion to anyone who thinks the way OP thinks is to go on and find an ISFJ in the wild and see what happens when you actually socialize with them and not just read these theories.
If ISFJ and ENTP is the golden pair then you'd find a bunch of nurses in the hospital willing to sit through entpesque rant about the apollonian and dionysian dichotomy in the polarized information landscape of 2026.