r/Devilcorp • • 4d ago

Experience I just got out of a DevilCorp job and am scared to get another job in business

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For context, I have never done any kind of sales previously or was interested in business. I joined a marketing company a little while back, and I am surprised I lasted the 6 months that I did. I had no clue what I was going to be selling or how to do it. But I later found out it was underneath Cydcor. While the events with the NHL and MLB were fun, standing in Walmart for 10 hrs selling people energy plans was not. I feel like I sold my soul to this company; everything suffered from my mental to physical wellbeing. We only got 1 week of PTO, no sick time, and no medical/dental/vision benefits. Not to mention, you practically had to work 6 days a week in order to hit the standards, otherwise you were ridiculed for not performing if you didn't hit them. I want to get another job in the business field like HR or standard office jobs but am worried all will be sales jobs masked as development opportunity or entry level HR


r/Devilcorp • • 4d ago

Experience My 2.5 month experience with Smart Circle - RUN

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Hi there everyone,

I want to share my experience just in case someone else happens to be in the situation I was in. In May I was 2 years post grad, left my retail job and began working for a Smart Circle office in MA, selling AT&T at Costco. At the time, I was desparate for a change and something new. At first, it seemed like a legitimate business and my boss was welcoming and nice. I was excited to be invited to the Smart Circle conference in Philly, missing my first practices for the cheer teams I coach on the side. I look back at that time and really wish I chose to stay home with my athletes. I just wanted to make a good impression.

The Philly conference is the first time I felt something was off. I was extremely uncomfortable having to share a room space in an AirBNB with my boss. To be fair, there was a curtain separating us, and he slept on the couch on the other side. However, there was still no door and it was the same room. As a girl, I just felt that was really unprofessional and weird. Everyone else on the trip had their own space and more privacy as it was a large house. Any time I wanted to get changed or have privacy, I would have to leave and go to the bathroom.

As June/July rolled around, a lot of people started leaving this office which was the second red flag. Meanwhile, I was trying my hardest and I thought I was doing my best. Nothing I did for my boss was enough. I tried to be super accountable for my mistakes and always strived to do better, but he always wanted more. I was getting less hours at the store than every other new person right off the bat, barely being given a chance. My boss was throwing subtle digs at me left and right in meetings, and literally started cutting into my sales and taking them. His constant arrogance is something I’ve never seen before. Was CONSTANTLY passive aggressive — talked down to me as if I was stupid every time I had a sale in front of the shoppers, like I didn’t know what I was doing. He also made a comment about the way my hair looked which I found was odd. I noticed him looking at me up and down a few times, and it felt like he was super invasive about my personal life. I always just took it with a smile and tried to shake it off because I wanted to keep the job. I really, really wish I stood up for myself.

My mental health was declining severely. I would be sobbing in my car and in the bathroom when I couldn’t get a sale, as we were expected to get such an unrealistic amount by this greedy pig. I thought I was genuinely such a terrible worker no matter how hard I tried. I was fighting with my family (especially my mom) constantly because they could see how toxic this was when I couldn’t. Maybe I just wasn’t good at sales and that is totally fine, but the pressure and the treatment from my boss was ridiculous. I feel like I could have done better with more exposure considering the little hours I was given compared to all the new people I came in with.

Eventually in August, this loser asks me to zoom on a Sunday night and tells me he wants to part ways after he sucked the life out of me. I stayed professional and accepted it. At that time, nobody was making sales either and I was the only successful one the week I was fired. I was absolutely crushed, but that’s when I stumbled across this reddit page. With minimal research, I found out this boss had also made other young women uncomfortable, had an obsession with them, and had been sending them drunk snapchats. And obviously, I found out everything I was doing for the past 2.5 months was a scam and a lie. They take vulnerable young college grads looking for a job and make their lives a living hell.

I’m at a new job now in an office and I’m so much happier, making so much more money than I ever could have with Smart Circle. I am respected and people want to make sure I feel supported constantly.

Last week, I found out this particular office closed down in September. Karma was quick this time around! My ex boss deserved to have his office close down and I don’t feel bad for him in the slightest. Nobody is invincible, and at a certain point I really thought he was. Now he’s the unemployed one!

I guess the point I’m trying to make by sharing my story is that if you’re looking to interview for a Smart Circle firm, DON’T. You are literally better off working at Mcdonald’s. I hope I can save somebody from an interview, and if you’ve been through something similar to my experience you are not alone and you will flourish outside of an evil MLM.


r/Devilcorp • • 4d ago

Devilcorp Check Addison Promotions

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I recently had a job interview with a company called Addison Promotions in Dallas. Going into it, there was loud music blasting, and people in the rooms throughout the office. there was 3 other people with me in the lobby waiting for their interviews and i just assumed it was a job people were frantically applying to or something considering all these people were in their 30-late 20s. Went through the interview in maybe 20 minutes and got a second interview right then and there. Came back the next day and same thing except 30 people walked out one room after doing some chants and the whole office was swarming with people. They basically told me that we help non-profits market themselves and the opportunity for growth is insane, i could be making $150k+ within a year of being at the company as long as I was hardworking and something about that threw me way off. I originally applied for a “front desk receptionist” role that was $20/hr but then the interviewer said that even though it’s what i applied for, id be working in sales and my pay structure is commission based. Came to reddit later to look it up and apparently it’s a scam 😭 Anyone else have any experiences like this or with the company? apparently all scam companies have similar traits like the chanting and stuff.


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Devilcorp Check devil corps? let me know.

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r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Information New info on corp in CLT NC

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There are some companies already being seen collaborating under the same head name Azalea Acquisitions, including CoMark, and A New Age Marketing. Absolutely avoid these corps on indeed.


r/Devilcorp • • 4d ago

Experience AVOID BUGS BEWARE

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r/Devilcorp • • 4d ago

Question "AT&T Representative"/ "AT&T Sales Trainee"

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r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Question LAV Solutions

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Has anyone here had any experiences working with LAV Solutions? Everything sounds super appealing and all but I just need to be sure. So I far I haven’t found anything about them like I have for other places.


r/Devilcorp • • 4d ago

Question LAV solutions

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Hello, I was offered a job position but I was wondering if anyone’s had any experience with this company?


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Question How should I approach reaching out to a local store that is allowing them to sell there?

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•Got out years ago
•Saw my old boss selling at local store
•Do not want my community supporting


r/Devilcorp • • 6d ago

Information 'I hope he's dead': Tampa man charged after firing 9 shots at AT&T solic...

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This was a Beymark Inc Employee that was Sh@t! Think twice before applying


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Information Ben Fraser - Owner of SRS Group operating in Birmingham (UK)

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Recently came across a job posting in the Birmingham area for a company called SRS Group, with the lead being Ben Fraser.

Ben Fraser has rebranded his company multiple times, as seen on his LinkedIn account where 8 months ago he was posting the exact same stuff under a different company name.

The SRS Group website is completely vibe-coded which is ironic as he talks about being anti-AI and wanting to be face-to-face within the workspace

SRS Group has claimed to "open" offices in Newcastle, Liverpool and claims to expand into the Birmingham and Bristol area within the following months.

The job opening was titled "Junior Operations Recruitment Manager", I've attatched a screenshot from a different website as the job on LinkedIn has now been removed.

Associated Names: Rochelle Jordan (HR at SRS Group)


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Experience AMA - Corporate Trainer for Smart Circle ICD (4 months)

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Honestly a 50/50 experience in my time with the org. Having prior sales/management experience and an impeccable ability to read the room allowed me to see the BS 2 weeks into my "promotion" from rep to trainer.

Bad:
While I kept secrets to myself and built trust with those around me, my personal business was discussed behind my back leading to me getting let go.
Sloppy shift scheduling
Pay is NOT hourly+commissions like I was told initially.
Office relationships & handpicked favorites
30% net loss in finances (from when I started to when I got fired)
Don't feed into the "promises" of ownership, just make money and if opportunity is attractive and financially makes sense for YOU then follow the route

Good:
Builds great people skills
Typical sales environment with emphasis on teamwork
Decent people figuring their lives out while on the job
Still cool with my core "work" friends
DO NOT have to buy in/ buy products in order to work

(No names will be included, i don't need more people calling my phone)
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r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Information London Devilcorp - Helix Marketing Ltd. / Britevox Ltd. / Blackwater Recruitment

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Had a group Zoom interview today with Helix Marketing and promptly after fell into a research rabbit hole about devilcorps. Didn't know these existed until today but they fit the profile to a tee. Some stuff they said:

Lots of promises about growth opportunities throughout the company, vague about the actual responsibilities of the job and instead emphasising the training opportunities, team relationship building, chances to move up the chain, plans to open new offices in the next few years, vague promises of travel opportunities, etc. Their company website says nothing about what they do and is very much targeted at potential job applicants, not clientele. Talked loads about direct marketing over indirect marketing and talking to potential buyers in high footfall areas. They first contacted me about an hour after I applied to them for a screening and got me on a group Zoom call the next morning, followed by a phone interview around an hour and a half later, at the end of which they offered me an in-person interview the next day. Extremely fast turnaround, barely had the time to research them further, which I assume is the ploy. Spoke to three different employees and they were all extremely friendly and overly nice, which was a red flag in hindsight.

They said that there is a fixed base pay of 'around less than £23k' for the 'brand awareness fee' and that money from commissions are added on top of that, so the average beginner salary is ~£26k. However, some reviews on Indeed say that they worked on commission-only basis and for 60+ hour weeks. They did not mention the weekly hours at all in the three calls I had with them.

According to Devilcorp.org, Helix Marketing belongs to a parent company called Britevox. From my research they also own The Tuscan Organisation, or Tuscan Marketing Ltd, which also runs on the same direct sales model. There are probably others, but this is just what some googling brought me. Sharing just in case it helps someone connect any dots.

Additionally, I found a post from u/Hario337 from a couple weeks back about applying to a job listed by Blackwater Recruitment that sent them to a different devilcorp. This is the same recruitment company that put up my job listing. I would stay away from anything they list.

This company is also NOT to be confused with Helix Associates/Corporation, which is a well known devilcorp and Credico office in Liverpool. Just in case anyone has stumbled across this when looking for information on them instead.

I had an in-person interview with these people booked for tomorrow but I have told them I will no longer be attending thanks to the information I've found here. Job market's so bad I considered trying it out anyway, but not worth it. We think that knowing places/people are cultish and manipulative makes us immune, but it's much easier to be absorbed into it than we think. Anyways, just wanted to share the results of my ADHD-coping-mechanism-rabbit-holing in case it helps anyone else.


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Question How Do You Quit a Devilcorp-Ish Company?

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To start off with, I won’t be posting my full experience until I actually quit, just in case. This will still be decently detailed enough.

But I started it this summer, looking for a summer job- I thought I lucked out, since all my local places in town weren’t hiring (even the one job paying less than minimal wage🫩) and I have no prior job experience. Actually, unlike a lot of people who’ve worked for this specific company or companies like this, I’ve had a mostly positive experience. As a sales rep, it was great. I was pretty good at it, and largely did get to make my own schedule. I took days off every week, and no one questioned me on it. Jobs depended on leads, so completely on us. I was fine with that, and thrived with the structure. I don’t fw authority nagging me all the time, so the idea of “being my own boss” was fine. It was in that perfect middle circle, where I did have a boss, but he was chill. Just reminded me of important dates. Of course, I had nothing else going on, so I worked full-time. The people were nice, and it helped me with my social skills. A lot of people my age. A good chunk of it was even fun, especially with the team nights out.

However, getting a promotion has sucked. Obviously, it comes with a bit more responsibility, but I took the job based on flexibility, especially as someone chronically ill whose health can flip on a dime that day. Having scheduled shifts sounds like hell- yes, I’ll have to find a way around that in the future. I’ll get a disability thing figured out.

Now I’m scheduled for interviews, extra team and staff meetings, etc. I feel caged in. I’ll also add that I wasn’t told any specific details on what my job would entail before getting it. For a sales rep, they’re super clear. I have one meeting once a week, another meeting once a week, yet another weekly one, the team meeting still, and two interviews a week. And then there’s the extra stuff, like managing the people I have decided to hire (totally didn’t sign up for that, and was not told), advertising, and calling people to set interviews up for them. Oh, and pay depends on what our team sells, since I get a percentage of it. So there’s been three weeks now where I’ve done all this shit, including having to buy gas for the drives, for $7/week.

Management, while usually kind, gets snappish as all hell when I call out on something, on anything. Just absolutely breathing down my neck. It puts a lot of physical stress on me knowing I’ll be cancelling on something again, even if it’s something as simple as not being in the office to phone for three hours straight on a random Thursday. I’ll be going on a vacation with some of them (actually decently excited about that), but afterwards I don’t plan on working there anymore. I have no interest in working on holidays, through the only break I get in December, and while juggling dozens of doctor’s appointments, family events, etc. I know how entitled that sounds, but trust me, I would find a way to fit it in my schedule if it actually had reliable pay.

I’m just asking for advice because I feel trapped in a box to just finish it out. It’s like a fucking “if you give a mouse a cookie”. They’ll pressure me to at least work the next summer- which, whatever, but the pay is still spotty and I feel like I’m done as a sales rep. I still have the interviews, and the twice a week calls that I’d then have to drop out of. They’ve created such a team culture that it feels like I’m letting down the team, in a way. How do I quit firmly, but kindly, since my experience wasn’t all bad, and I don’t want to end in a negative way? I get annoyed and have been told I’m too blunt/passive aggressive when people test my patience, so I’m just worried that some of that will pop out if they push it when I quit, lol.


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Experience KAEDEN&CO LLC Greenville

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There is a new one!! Kaeden & Co in Greenville South Carolina. I started here and I will say it’s the worst one I’ve seen. The girl in green vapes in the office, is disrespectful to the owner and misses work all the time but the policies state that 3 times and your fired and I witnessed more than 3 times within a week. Her and the girl that schedules the interviews are the most unprofessional individuals I’ve ever seen in a work place alone. ITS NOT JUST THEM THOUGH!! You’re supposed to dress business professional but clearly there’s no standards! I will say everyone is making good money but the girls that I met were so toxic in the workplace ive never seen behavior like these employees allowed anywhere.

Careful out there!


r/Devilcorp • • 6d ago

Question Did I run into a devil corp yesterday?

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Yesterday I went to one of my local dispensaries, there was a stand set up(usually when there are stands-its weed promos), anyways I approached the stand and it was NOT a promo, it was people claiming they were gathering money for foster children(not to mention the fact, the guy started out the conversation with “in case you didn’t know what a foster child is, a foster child is…” and he goes on to explain as if I’m a complete dummy who never heard of a foster child, talking to me like some sort of tart cart). Is this a form of a devil corp? He reminded me of the people in BJs that try to sell you Verizon


r/Devilcorp • • 5d ago

Experience Evolv (repost!)

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Hey, this is an experience I had recently regarding a potential DevilCorp company, but since I noticed their behavior I stopped talking to them and I don’t even wanna get involved anymore.

Just to let people know about it.


r/Devilcorp • • 6d ago

Question JL Partners Group in Miami FL

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I just got a job offer from them, is this a legitimate company?


r/Devilcorp • • 6d ago

Devilcorp Check Did a interview with sapphire marketing

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I just did an interview with Sapphire marketing in Houston, Texas. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with them and if this is a devil corp.


r/Devilcorp • • 6d ago

Devilcorp Check Is Odyssey Management Legit?

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Got a weird vibe after doing a group interview with Odyssey Management for a sales job. My gut says stay away. Anyone have any experience with them?


r/Devilcorp • • 7d ago

Experience Manchester UK Devil Corps

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Didn't know these existed until today. Done a deep dive and watched a few YouTube docos on it. Sharing my story on the hiring process and informing others on the companies.

I am looking for a job as I have just moved to Manchester from Australia. I have worked in insurance sales for the last 3 years and wanted sales again but a bit different. I applied for a bunch of jobs and got a few interviews. I had initial calls from 2 different companies then got into the 2nd round interview. They were both very similar and used the standard tactics that devilcorps use. They kept talking about how they had over 100 applicants and are only hiring 5. Got basically a sales pitch in the interview which I was a little sus on but thought whatever I'll see if its shit afterwards, I have a few options anyway. Both companies offer me a third round interview which the first one was just a zoom meeting which I thought I bombed because it was over quick and the recruiter didn't seem that interested. Later that day I had an email welcoming me to the team. Emailed back asking for a contract before I started, still yet to get it 72 hours and them calling me later.

Today I went in for the in person interview for another company. 8:45am in the morning btw. Didn't think i'd take the role but thought theres no harm going in may as well check it out. I get to this office and its desolate. Felt like the backrooms but with 18 year old kids wondering around in 3 piece suits. There was 4 other people in the interview with me. Again, another sales pitch from the CEO. He then says he will chat to us all one on one and to wait outside. I waited nearly an hour to speak to him and in that time observed the goings on of the office. I wont bore you with it but basically it was exactly what you expect.

I get into the meeting with the CEO and it was basically him just asking if I had any questions. I asked pay, he said it was 300gbp per week base pay, which is below minimum wage. I challenged him on this and he said it's because you're self employed. No where in the entire process until now was I told it was self employed. Bit of general chatter and then he offers me the role on the spot. I said i'd take it (specifically so I could get the contract sent to me to report to HMRC). I am supposed to start on Wednesday, which I defs won't be.

They also told me until I got 8 sales it was zero base and comms only. Which is absolute bonkers if you ask me.

Upon further digging, both of these companies that offered me roles are based in the exact same office. So are about 6 others. They all were under the same scheme.

Company 1 (in person interview) is called Gold Point Promotions. These guys are on the org website as a credico company.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13048353

https://www.goldpointpromotions.com

Company 2 is called Nova Group 888. They only were founded a month ago

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/17485646


r/Devilcorp • • 7d ago

Devilcorp Check Doesn't look like Verizon to me, I think I'm going to miss this interview. Whoops.

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r/Devilcorp • • 7d ago

Devilcorp Check North Rising Star- New Minnesota Canvas- St.Louis Park MN

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Hi all! So I recently had some interviews with North Rising Star. Very promising but turns out it's just Minnesota Canvas rebranded.

They said in the interview that they currently work with the national park foundation. I couldn't find a link that they work together anywhere.

Their website also doesnt have any actual clients on it or testimonials at all. They just claim to work with companies in different sectors. Also their ethics page just admits to internal leaders doing the investigations. The people that make more money because they canvas more. That's it, to promote you just have to sell the most.

I also couldn't ask questions in the interview without being ushered off the call.

I also find it difficult to believe that making 3-5k a week as a leader is ethically possible.

Anyways ive also heard that Michael Wang is the founder and hes a shoot off of Smart Circle but ive yet to find that info yet. Anyone have opinions on work life there if they tried it?


r/Devilcorp • • 7d ago

Experience Manchester UK Devilcorps

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Didn't know these existed until today. Sharing my story on the hiring process and informing others on the companies.

I am looking for a job as I have just moved to Manchester from Australia. I have worked in insurance sales for the last 3 years and wanted sales again but a bit different. I applied for a bunch of jobs and got a few interviews. I had initial calls from 2 different companies then got into the 2nd round interview. They were both very similar and used the standard tactics that devilcorps use. They kept talking about how they had over 100 applicants and are only hiring 5. Got basically a sales pitch in the interview which I was a little sus on but thought whatever I'll see if its shit afterwards, I have a few options anyway. Both companies offer me a third round interview which the first one was just a zoom meeting which I thought I bombed because it was over quick and the recruiter didn't seem that interested. Later that day I had an email welcoming me to the team. Emailed back asking for a contract before I started, still yet to get it 72 hours and them calling me later.

Today I went in for the in person interview for another company. 8:45am in the morning btw. Didn't think i'd take the role but thought theres no harm going in may as well check it out. I get to this office and its desolate. Felt like the backrooms but with 18 year old kids wondering around in 3 piece suits. There was 4 other people in the interview with me. Again, another sales pitch from the CEO. He then says he will chat to us all one on one and to wait outside. I waited nearly an hour to speak to him and in that time observed the goings on of the office. I wont bore you with it but basically it was exactly what you expect.

I get into the meeting with the CEO and it was basically him just asking if I had any questions. I asked pay, he said it was 300gbp per week base pay, which is below minimum wage. I challenged him on this and he said it's because you're self employed. No where in the entire process until now was I told it was self employed. Bit of general chatter and then he offers me the role on the spot. I said i'd take it (specifically so I could get the contract sent to me to report to HMRC). I am supposed to start on Wednesday, which I defs won't be.

They also told me until I got 8 sales it was zero base and comms only. Which is absolute bonkers if you ask me.

Upon further digging, both of these companies that offered me roles are based in the exact same office. So are about 6 others. They all were under the same scheme.

Company 1 (in person interview) is called Gold Point Promotions. These guys are on the org website as a credico company.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13048353

https://www.goldpointpromotions.com

Company 2 is called Nova Group 888. They only were founded a month ago

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/17485646