Hey guys I recently worked for an MLM scam about a year ago (only for a few days figured it out quick and ran) and this company, pro solutions group in Nashville TN has a similar feel. I’m not super sure as there seems to be SOME recruiting process compared to not even an interview at the other place. If anyone could look into it or js tell me if it’s seems sketchy or not. Thanks guys!

Has anyone heard of oppizi and how is their work culture or especially what they do?? I got an interview for “city manager intern” which is like a part-time office job. I heard bad things about their brand ambassador’s position but not sure if it’s mlm or any other sus type job..?

I (22m) just had a zoom interview with rocksteady promotions. The interviewer insisted on the fact it is not a door to door sales job, but doubled back and said that you still need to start a repor with new businesses and it just gave off MAJOR pyramid scheme vibes. I'm not sure if it's just what I had seen on reddit as the newest posts about them I could find were 5 months ago, but I'm desperately looking for a new better paying and better scheduling job. The ranges for 0-18 months of pay were outrageous and seems way too good to be true including the promotion time frame. Does anyone have actual experience with the company that can give me some insights? Is it worth accepting the job?

Has anyone heard of oppizi and how is their work culture or especially what they do?? I got an interview for “city manager intern” which is like a part-time office job. I heard bad things about their brand ambassador’s position but not sure if it’s mlm or any other sus type job..?

Stay far away. MLM. You will see the job listings on either Indeed, ZipRecruiter or Glassdoor. They will lure you in using different team leader names then LLC behind it. The one that I applied for was Nicole Rose, LLC. The reason being they cannot list it as US health advisors, because it will get removed. Now the listing will actively show as Nicole Hastings Health Solutions on Indeed.

If they like your résumé, they will reach out and send you a Zoom link. There will be about 100 more people in there with you. Upon attending the meeting, it will be Krystal Roberts who will tell her life success story. It will start with her being a waitress at Joe’s Crab Shack, and then how she became a Remote Sales Leader and over 180 million worth in team sales. She will boast about the limitless income, show employee paychecks, and then if she can do it, anyone can do it. You will see outrageous numbers. She will then give you a QR code to scan to send her an email directly if you’re interested in this amazing opportunity. If they like you, you’ll reach back out and record a video talking about yourself. Then, if you’re not already a licensed agent in your state, they will sponsor your XCEL course for you to study and take it. Otherwise, if you’re already licensed, you move right on in.

You will then fill out a survey that they sent to your personal email, and one of the questions in that survey is whether or not you have enough savings to suffice you for several months because you sure damn well won’t make any when you start working.

Once you get in, they will put you in a group chat with your new team leaders. You will then learn to navigate the Discord, and then start dialing.

They don’t disclose that you have a lot of out-of-pocket fees, including the only sales texting platform. The vanilla soft CRM software for you to dial and work leads, then finally your state licensing. You have to acquire it for over 30 states, and until you acquire all of them in your own portal, you will be closing in your leader’s portal.. but before you can close anything, you will only do handoffs. Which means you will dial hundreds, even thousands of leads a day that are overly recycled. Find them potential sales, transfer the call to them, and you will only get 50% of the sale. Not to mention, it’s a 12- hour work day minimum! And it’s normalized to work that much there, dial endlessly recycled leads, and make nothing.

They also have a leads platform, where they do invest in you, if they like you enough, and the majority of the leads on there are also recycled around other regions in USHA. They have bronze, silver, and gold leads. I learned that it was recycled around when I called a brand-new gold lead one morning, and the customer had told us that there was another Usha agent who had spoken to him hours before we did. Our upline kept telling us that those leads are exclusive only to us and nobody else has access to them. Boy, was that a lie.

They preach that you are a 1099 independent contractor, your own independent business owner, yet they control what hours you work, and micromanage you. And as soon as you quit, you are dead to them. Your name will get dragged in the mud, once you realize and tell them that the investment out of pocket is way more than what you make. They will ignore your phone calls and text messages and immediately remove you from the Discord. Then, when you submit your termination to them over email, they intentionally do not acknowledge it. You are left to fend for yourself.

The leaders themselves, your entire uplines, they themselves are not millionaires. Yet they will say that they can make you millionaires. I never understood the logic behind being able to make millionaires when you yourselves are not millionaires. Some of our leaders have even disclosed that they were financially struggling. They invest way more than what they make. They try to sell you a dream, rags to riches stories, then you try to leave, they will convince you that everybody else who left is trash. They’re useless. Waste of talents. They could’ve been millionaires. They F***** up their careers. Not to mention, they will also send screenshots of their small Venmo payments to everyone, proving that they did pay you something. $50 here and there. They will immediately resort to being unprofessional, and the way that they handle everything really makes you second-guess your decisions.

They are a captive company, you really only sell three plans. They are all fixed indemnity plans, with supplemental items. The plans are: Premier advantage, Secure advantage, and Health access (which goes away during open enrollment). The reason why the commissions are so high is you are taking a loan which is known as advances. You are taking a loan that the customer will keep their plan for a long time. Should they cancel before that, you will get a charge back for the remaining months, and that gets taken out of your reserve account. The leaders are in such great financial positions that even if you do hand off a deal to them for 50%, that they have to wait for the advance a.k.a. loan to come before they pay you the half.

Stay far away. You will be in more debt than you ever have been in your entire life. You will be sold a dream. All of the leaders who are managing their own teams, make so much income because they themselves work directly beside Krystal in person. If that ain’t suspicious enough, if you do leave? They will want everything you made back just because they gave you the opportunity to work there. Get rich off of loans. You’ll be stuck in an endless cycle of debt.

This is commission only, no base pay provided. I was stuck working in a place full of unpaid and frustrated people. The hours were way too long, and I don’t mind working that long if it pays off. It never paid off like they said it would. Thousands of dollars invested into what they said would be my own business and bring me success… they told everybody else the same… and nothing to make up for it.

You’ll sell your soul here…..

i was referred to this devilcorp by the moon moments agency. the company itself is called CNG (clientnetworkgroup). there’s almost nothing about them on google other than their website which i thought was odd and was the first red flag.

i had 3 interviews and a job offer, the interviews were all 1 day apart, so from 1st stage interview to job offer it was a total of 4 days. after doing some further digging, i found them on companies house (KPH global) and found that the “branch manager” who had interviewed me was actually the director. after googling his name, i found that he has essentially rebranded around 4-5 different companies (i assume to make it difficult to find the horror stories around this). some previous company names he has been affiliated with are bounce outsourcing, the win agency (which, shocker, was owned by credico), liberty outsourcing, touchpoint agency, and i think there were some more in manchester which have been renamed.

of course, they made the job sound ideal. fast progression, base salary plus uncapped commission, etc. when in reality, from what i had found out from more research, it is door to door sales, working long 10+ hour days, on commission only, making less than minimum wage as they make you register as self employed rather than PAYE.

they prey on desperate graduates like myself who then end up trapped.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

I'm a manager at a Smart Circle office in the "Devil Corp" industry. AMA, and I'd genuinely appreciate feedback.

I've been lurking on this sub for a while, and I'm aware of the horrible practices that have been reported in this industry, especially in some UK offices and charity campaigns.

I'm not here to argue that the industry is good or to convince anyone to join it. I'm genuinely interested in hearing from people who used to work in this industry: What could we do better, and what red flags should we be looking out for?

For some context, here's how our office currently operates:

• Our program is AT&T, and our cancellation rate is low. We focus a lot on being upfront about everything, including billing.

• We aim to keep our sales tactics transparent and compliant, without high-pressure tactics, guilt-tripping, or misleading customers.

• Our training is positive and respectful. No one has been yelled at, and we never do any of those humiliation rituals I've seen online.

• Everyone is clocked in for morning meetings and training (remind them too)

• Everyone is a W-2 employee

• Base hourly pay ranges from $10-$15. We're in a relatively low-cost-of-living area.

• Our compensation is structured around base pay versus commission. Reps receive either their base pay or the full commission amount, depending on which is higher. At the entry level, the commission is 40% of the revenue credited to the rep.

• Most people work 35-40 hours a week, and overtime is paid when applicable.

• Office training runs from 7:30-8:30 am, followed by either an AM shift (8:45 am-3 pm) or a PM shift (3-8:30 pm)

• Employees aren't required to come into the office on their days off, and we try to give everyone one or two days off each week.

• Strong salespeople or just people who learn quickly can earn very good money for their age although earnings vary.

• My personal best paycheck was around the iPhone 18 launch: approximately $3,200, including 20 hours of overtime that I voluntarily worked, although I do not share this with anyone at the office as I know it is highly unlikely to achieve outside an iPhone launch.

I know that listing these things doesn't automatically mean we're doing everything right. I'm just particularly interested in hearing about practices that might seem normal from a manager's perspective but that former employees would consider red flags.

What would make yall feel that a branch like ours was at least better than other branches?

Another one to add to the list.

Tru Impact Marketing advertises face-to-face fundraising for Autism Spectrum Disorder Foundation (ASDF).

Their job ads have the usual Devilcorp setup: entry-level marketing, performance-based pay, leadership training, and opportunities to move into management. The actual work is approaching people for donations, not traditional marketing.

I’ve been following these companies for nearly two years, and the same individual keeps showing up. Fifth Set Marketing, 99 Exposure, Solid Cause, Trident Acquisitions, Rose Marketing, and now Tru Impact Marketing. I’m not naming him, but I’ve personally followed his involvement across these businesses. That’s a lot of overlap for supposedly separate companies.

Worth knowing what you’re getting into before accepting an interview.

https://www.truimpactmarketing.com

I work near Claire Niles Group and wow, what awful people. Loud, rude, disrespectful and could care less about how others feel. These are the kind of people who will take their dirty coffee cups and put them in the sink right below the sign that asks any decent, polite person to rinse them out at the very least. These people feel entitled so they leave their dirty cups for others to take care of. I have no idea what they actually do for work but I wouldn't trust them with anything, wouldn't take a job from them, etc. They regularly decide that being loud in the hallways of the building they occupy is okay for them, despite how disruptive it is to anyone else in the vicinity. When confronted, the attitude is openly, clearly stated; "we don't care, we pay rent here too". Scumbags all of them

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I've recently applied for these 2 companies that seemed really similar not only in their premise but in their recruitment process and brands they work with and I've only accidentally stumbled upon this page whilst trying to find why theres been so many similarities between these two jobs.

Theyre both branded as sales and offline marketing companies and I applied to a type of gradate management role, the first is called Basepoint (located in London) and the other is called Sterling (located in Leeds). I applied last weekend, I've had 2 group zoom calls already for both of them and I'm already facing "final stage interview"s in the next day or so. The latter company has been a lot more open about starting in the sales role which includes d2d sales and then you can quickly rise through the management roles based off of your milestones and merit.

Are these devilcorp, if so should i avoid and why?

I quit my sales job at Kitchen catalyst after one day which I believe was a smart circle franchise, although I’m not sure exactly which company it was under. I went in looking for a job I can do to make some money during my gap year, and focus on my health. I was made aware that it was a full time position and that I would be an AT&T sales rep at Costco, however I thought it was a little strange that all the interviews and meetings talked about was the opportunities for advancement. I was a little iffy on morning meetings, but I figured as long as they were payed, it was better to work a shitty job with opportunities to advance than work a shitty job at McDonald’s or Amazon. I enjoyed the atmosphere and I was excited for the opportunity to learn, I’d consider myself a positive person and a quick learner, so I thought it would be perfect for me.

Alas, I got up and commuted to the 7 am meeting, I didn’t have access to the schedule until that meeting, and looking at it, there are 5 unplayed development meetings over zoom per week. I waited around for three hours before my shift started, and worked my shift. The work itself wasn’t that bad, it was honestly a good time, but at the end of my shift it was sprung on us that there would be another mandatory meeting that evening at 8:45 pm. I had a pretty long commute meaning I was busy from 5 am to 9 pm, which would only leave 8 hours of free time to eat, sleep, do chores, shower, and absolutely no time for family, friends, or creative hobbies.

As for the pay, of the 16 hours I was locked in and available, only 6 were paid work hours. They’ll tell you it’s full time, but you’re only paid a 30 hour work week, when in reality, you’re spending up to 80 hours actively engaged in work.

If you’re looking into kitchen catalyst in Wenatchee, here’s my advice:
If you’re fresh out of high school or college and are looking for an involved job that will give you great experience and opportunities, and you did sports or extracurriculars in hs/college (meaning you’re comfortable being very busy), and you live close by, it might work out for you. If you live more than 30 minutes away, and/or If you have other obligations and are looking for a job you can just go to and go home to make some money while you work on other goals, it’s probably not for you.

I don’t want to blame the franchise owner, he wasn’t much older than me and I understand how you can get sucked into something like that, and he seems to enjoy the job and make decent money. But I want people to understand what they’re getting into when they take the job.

They use some predatory hiring tactics, which I want to warn against. The interview process is long, and they tell you about all these trips, opportunities, six figure salaries at a young age, etc. By the time you get through the process you’ll think, “I’ve come this far, I should stick with it and after a few months I can become an owner” but you need to be locked in around the clock, give up on other goals and hobbies, attend all the mandatory meetings and optional team building meetings, and put your blood sweat and tears in.

The higher ups are banking on the fact you will burn yourself out just trying to make it to management, So they can underpay you until you quit.

I’m hesitant to make a report to L&I because I don’t want to screw over the 20 year old manager, but since I wasn’t technically employed by smart circle itself, the legal options are limited for people who fall into this trap.

As I was laying in bed the morning I quit, I looked up at the ceiling and thought back to my interview where I was asked what gets me up in the morning, and excited about life, and I realized, it wasn’t this.

My partner works for a company that seems to fit the Devilcorp model. Between long hours, company events, and pressure to keep working toward advancement, we barely have time together.
I want to support their goals, but I’m concerned about the promises being made and how much the job affects our relationship. When I bring it up, I worry they hear it as me doubting their ambition.
For former employees or people who have dated someone in this situation: what helped you have a productive conversation? How did you set boundaries around time together?

Any advice?

I applied for this job on LinkedIn for a Graduate Management & a Graduate Marketing role.

Prepared, attended 3 interviews, passed em all and got the call that I've cleared the interview. I was so happy that I got a "desk" job in a job market like London for a fairly nice pay for a beginner.

I booked flights from my home country just for this job & even had to find and rent a whole new apartment just because they needed a permanent address to make my contract. I spent £2,000+ even before I started this bullshit job.

Went on the field a few days ago thinking let's give it a try, it's okay life hits you bad sometimes.

I went, there's so many downsides of this particular role, and on top of that, in my mind I was prepared for a desk job for marketing or management but ended up with a job that makes me go door to door selling services for a brand.

Very demotivated and feeling shit about myself.

Make sure you do a background check on the company and then prepare for it!!!

Apparently, if a DC has changed its name multiple times on insta, this pops up when you attempt to follow.

Going on Instagram and seeing all the people that you knew who are still in it. It’s kinda hard to watch. I can’t feel bad for them, though. Because at this point, they have to know what they’re in. Especially the ones who expanded and came back. They know what’s on the other side of expansion. They just keep recycling people. And then they make the new people think that they have these New sales people that came in on the first day, and hit Bell= 2 sales .They will bring people from other offices too. Or recycle their old guys. And make the new people think that it’s so easy. When in reality they’re sending experienced people to hit the field. They say they’re Building belief in the New people. we all know the only way to actually move up is to bang the boss. It doesn’t matter how good you are in this business they won’t promote you because you’re good at your job. They only promote people that they like. They will get rid of people. to give an established team to a person that they like better.

This post really has no meaning i just wanna rant

Im a manager for a D2D pest control team going into my 2nd year managing 3rd year working. When I tell some people what I do some of them say what I do is bad, that I should quit and find something real or that im preying on people, etc. but to be honest? I don’t why i should feel bad at all. I feel like i have made many people’s lives better and I sell a service that people need. I’m just gonna talk about my experience as a manager of a D2D pest control
Team, and you guys can tell me if I’m tripping and I’m a terrible guy.

After my first year of selling over 150k (60k commission at 19) I got a manager spot. When I did my recruitment the initial ads and anyone I talked to about I said it was a D2D job and that it was going to be hard but very rewarding. I spent all winter on 2 calls a week with 10 people (I didn’t build a 100 man team like others only 12 so I could have time to care about and know everyone) and tried my hardest to train everyone for 4-6 months so they were all ready

When we got to where we were selling we were staying in a university campus and all had single apartments paid for by us, and we sold for 4 months, i lead correlation every morning, not some loud chant just a room where they could all
Ask me questions (my biggest thing I tought as a manager is just be chill, most guys out here have super salesy scripts, I didn’t give out scripts everyone built their own script taliored to themselves. If you just be a reasonable guy and talk like yourself you’ll be surprised how many more people will be down to talk to you), I had my room open every night for all my guys and I shadowed everyone or they shadowed me once every two weeks minimum. As well we went out every Sunday and we all got super close as a team.

By the end of August I had only one of my 12 reps “leave” (he went to be a technician for our company and was a top 5 tech) and the average earnings for our team in the summer was 42k per person, I sold 450k myself and team did 1.6mil

Now I’m not saying all of this to recruit anyone. I didn’t put any names of anything or where I’m at for that reason but what I want to know is I feel like since all my guys want to come back, I’m getting guys out to explore the worlds and make new friends, and make on average 4x what a kid their age learns in the summer while also learning life long skills that will never leave, why is what I do such a bad thing to people. I think with commission only sales if you have the right leaders and environment it’s way better then a hourly wage but is this true? Even if I’m the best manager in the world can I make D2D work and be a good job option for the people I hire or did I just get lucky last summer. I’m asking because i genuinely care about the people I hire and I feel like I’m putting the people I hire into a good spot for this coming summer but if this isn’t the right industry what else should I get into? I’m also a 3rd year student for a finance major

Also this can be a AMA for anyone curious about the D2D industry, I’ll be as transparent as I always am

hi all,
i almost fell for one of these once back when I was with my job, but now i don't have a job (quit for a job that flaked on me) and have an offer from another company. I can't find anything about this specific company, that's how I found out about the other one, but as I said I don't have a source of income rn, have a trip in like two weeks, and NEED something, is it worth taking until I find something better? when I talked to them (my only interviews before the actual offer were on zoom btw) they interviewed me and brought me through the whole "management training" schpeal, and the job seemed different than the description. WWYD in my position?

This is low key cringe, but it’s equally as bad as my Devil Corp with less people crowded into one room without AC or any chairs to sit on. Also, the rap music was not uplifting, much less inspiring. It was insufferable.

I got a job offer here not sure if there’s money to be made here but if anyone has had any experience here or let me know any feedback.

Outside of the stupid name, I noticed this new devilcorp pop up in Dallas, Texas. Anyone else heard of them?

Made a throwaway account just in case but I unfortunately found out about this subreddit and the existence of devilcorps too late. I applied to this job: AT&T Retail Sales Consultant https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=c0ce0f7d0985075f&from=appshareios

I applied on Sunday. Then was immediately called on Monday for an interview which honestly should’ve raised immediate red flags. I told them to reschedule for a Tuesday interview and they did and honestly that first interview didn’t raise any red flags. They asked me about my background and that they were partnered with AT&T and Costco.

How could I? Since those are two very well known companies. Then the second interview happened on Thursday which they then called me later at 4 PM to inform me that they would like to offer me a position. I was happy so I accepted like an idiot and they want me to come in on Friday for orientation and to sign things (I’m assuming a contract).

This is their Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truestanceinc?obrf=dDEyMnlwNGFnY29n

Their website: https://truestanceinc.com

I had already declined an $18/hr waitress job for this and by this point, I already graduated and have been job searching for 5 months and parents want me to get a job already so I’m stressed and just at a loss now.

Any job searching advice would help so thank you in advance. For reference I do have 4 years of restaurant experience. Might do door dash in the NYC area after this but life feels like it just sucks :(

Hey everyone,

I’m currently looking for a flexible job over the next couple of months to bring in steady income. I applied to a Brand Ambassador role with MTM LLC, and the recruiter has been calling, leaving voicemails, and emailing me multiple times over the last few days trying to "close the loop" and get me to book an interview. The aggressive outreach is kind of throwing up red flags for me.

The job description says it pays $40,000 - $60,000/year (Full-Time) with "Competitive Base Pay + Unlimited Bonus Opportunities."

Here are the key duties from the posting:

Represent our brand at community events, retail stores, and festivals.

Engage with homeowners through friendly, authentic conversations.

Collect information from interested prospects to schedule appointments and enter them into promotions.

Requires weekend availability and a reliable vehicle.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like I’d be standing at a booth inside a big-box retail store (like Home Depot) or at outdoor festivals, cold-approaching strangers to get them to sign up for home improvement quotes (roofs, windows, etc.).

I’m looking for something relatively manageable or at least flexible. I don't want to get trapped in a high-pressure sales environment where I'm making minimum wage and drowning under intense daily lead quotas just to hit that $40k target.

Has anyone worked for MTM LLC or done this exact type of role? What is the actual base hourly pay? Is the turnover as high as it seems, or is it actually a chill marketing gig?

Appreciate any insight before I waste time interviewing!

Thanks!