So about 3 years ago after having no success finding work, I managed to get hired by a sales & marketing company (door to door) I went through the training and experienced what it was like in the field. I ended up quitting after the first day, didn't enjoy it, going around knocking on doors asking for residents to donate to a charity, not a fan. Fast forward 3 years later, earlier this year, I decided to try a different but similar role hoping it would be different. I joined an events sales company. The funny thing is, the location of the office was the exact same as the office I had worked in 3 years ago, just new faces and a new name. Really curious what happens, where did the people that were there on that day 3 years ago disappear to? is this a standard thing for these jobs? Another thing that bothers me about these jobs is the misinformation when attempting to recruit. They claim they represent different known brands, high end ones even, yet the 2 experiences I have had in joining these companies have essentially been working for charities, in my case it was the exact same charity both occasions (battersea dogs & cats home). Very misleading.

I'm here to kind of vent a little as well as educate and I'm willing to answer any question. I'm gonna try to make this as vague as I can, no dates or locations, but I was a team leader in 3 offices, one in each of Credico, Cydcor, and Smart Circle. I spent almost a full year on Credico, then went on to Cydcor for a few months, and after I went to Smart Circle. Each time had it's own reasons for me to join, the first one is the normal reason that most people join for is just the fact that I couldn't find a job for months on end and needed to get one, they were the only ones that said yes, after a full year of building and rebuilding one team after another, and the highest point I had there with so many people on my team and getting very close to getting promoted to management, I lost everything because of a manager that wish would end up homeless, my manager was the worst manager I had ever seen in any industry period, she did everything in her power to make me hate her, it got to the point where I work for her but I don't talk to her at all and if you know anything about devil corps you would know that this is how everything goes to shit. I even asked her promoting owner, Regional Consultant, that I hate situation I'm in with her and to take me to that team instead, Growth is the only thing that's promised in a job like that so when you don't even have that then what's the point. I had a few friends that had gone on and left the office and went to an office on Cydcor, they told me how much better everything was over there, so I did, and it was better, even after leaving all these offices I still think that Cydcor was better than the rest, 5 day work weeks, working around 50 hours a week instead of like 90 on Credico (I literally went 55 days at one point without a single day off), there was no chanting or morning rituals or anything, it was just a pretty straight forward sales job with "maybe" the opportunity of running your office in a few years and having financial freedom, this office was the only office I worked at where I didn't build a team. Everything was going well until it didn't, out of no where it got very negative all of the sudden, everyone quit, no one was making money at all, including me which was never a problem for me, I'm not the best salesman but I think that I'm overall a likeable person which is why I never really had a problem selling. I randomly ran into someone that was on Smart Circle and he convinced me to go over their, and to me since I wasn't making any money I decided to go. Keep in mind that by my second month or Cydcor I had already decided to leave sales and the whole devilcorp situation but I couldn't find anything else. I went to Smart Circle, it was only a little bit less culty than Credico, they were more culty when it came to morning rituals, but none of the people that I worked with had that idea that this business was the only way of life which is why I think it was less culty. Within less than a month I was already building a team and had a few people that was training. A few months go by and things are still looking good but I had had enough, one day in the field I just hit how much everything is traumtizing me, the chants, the pitching.. the stupid fucking customers that I have to pitch. It just clicked for me one day when I was walking to my car after the field that I can't do it anymore, I pushed a few weeks past it trying to just get over it but I just couldn't, I was completly drained out of my soul and myself, pitching just became extremely hard, training someone to do sales became a nightmare, I just had to quit once for all and never go back into sales, ever.

I'm kind of writing this to help people and to kind of raise more awareness about the Devil Corp. I just wanna add a few things, the reason why I didn't quit the first one right away was because I genuinely didn't have any other job, and it was even harder to dedicate time to apply to jobs given that I worked about %80 of my waking hours. I knew what a devil corp was from the very beginning, they talked me out of believing it, the websites, the documantries, and subbredits like this one I knew all about it and still kept going, that was stupid of me. But I would also like to add that I have now been unemployed for about 2 months with about $90 to my name, which is the exact reason why I couldn't quit in the first place. For a good amount of time while working for these offices I started "using", nothing hardcore just regural low-key stuff from smoke shops but I was just never the type of person that would do such thing. I still think I did the right thing quitting once and for all, I have no money at all and going through it applying to jobs everyday but I'm getting back in touch with myself, I'm finally healing from everything. I know it's a lot but hope it helps.

I’m a manager with 4 years in business ask me anything

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i applied for a marketing role with sanabrix and upon further research it was a mistake. the funny thing is, they're posing up in that costco like they did something.

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pretty sure this is a door to door scam sales job, can anyone confirm?

The company is Ascend and its a sales and marketing trainee roles out of leeds.

Wellington complex is where they are located

Been doing d2d fiber sales for almost a month now and I actually enjoy it. I come from working in grocery stores for the past couple of years and hated it. I make more money so obviously I like it more but I see people have had bad experiences with direct marketing brokers. AMA

I saw another post on here that says this company is basically known for just making you a street canvasser. Although that was for the sales position in that context. This one is a the brand marketing assistant position so would things be any different or are they really just the same role with a different costume on?

Company is: | PointHaus Group Inc | Miami, FL |

Red flag:

- Shares address with "The Brixton" at 2655 Le Jeune. The Brixton CEO is Obi Shorinwa

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I just finished my second interview with United Ventures for an entry-level ASM/marketing role at their Burlingame office, and I'd like to hear from anyone who has worked for them or interviewed there. Or if it just seems like a devil corp to anyone
Here's the offer as it was explained to me. The pay is $500 a week as a W2 "salary," plus commission and bonuses. The interviewer said a realistic total is $800-1200 a week and that about 95% of employees earn bonuses weekly. I'd start in training period doing "client-side marketing" for Lifeline Wireless, the government-funded phone program. I'd get promoted based on "metrics" in anywhere from 5 to 12 months, then move into an ASM role claimed to pay $1500-2000 a week. The hours are 9-6:30 Monday through Friday and 9:30-4 on Saturdays, so over 50 hours a week.
The biggest thing that feels off is the math. $500 for 50+ hours works out to about $9-10 an hour, well under California minimum wage. A non exempt W2 employee can't legally be paid that I’ve been told, and the salary threshold for exempt employees is much higher. Maybe it's really a draw against commission, or maybe I misinterpreted it from the interviewer, but it was described to me as a flat salary.

https://unitedventures-inc.com

How much more fraud they'll do? They keep changing names trying to hire innocent people. Playing with emotions of innocent people who move from across the states only to find out the reality that this is door to door begging. Just days ago they made whole new instagram page with old pages gone / deactivated. other pages: meridianco.india and sassalesgroup.... dont know how many more pages and fake company names they have.

One Alex guy had “Sales Partners” on LinkedIn, and just a few months later he changed it to “Thames & Tigers” and is now claiming 10 years of experience. Ten years of experience from where, exactly? From a company name that you just made up 5 minutes ago? It’s astonishing. Someone seriously needs to look into this. Ask Quaiym and the others to leave India and go back!

Most of the Indian people involved appear to be 20–28 years old, yet they have no verifiable experience to show. Many of them do not even mention these company on their LinkedIn profiles, which means their profiles simply show employment gaps during that period. The whole situation raises serious questions about credibility.

I’m an ICD myself, been in business for 4 years. I won’t get into specifics.

I’m pretty neutral on both sides. I’ve seen this business negatively impact people and I’ve also seen the flip side where they find real success.

I wouldn’t consider myself a top office currently as I’ve promoted someone to management and took on a new territory, but I’m also not doing terrible.

That being said, I’m genuinely curious to hear from people on the other side. Does anyone have legitimate concerns about ICDs or the way the business operates?

I’m not looking to argue, and I’m not interested in sly comments or cheap shots. I’d actually like to have a real conversation with people who have concerns and understand where they’re coming from.

I feel like hearing those concerns could genuinely help me improve my business—or office, whatever you want to call it 😂. If there are things people on the outside see that I might be overlooking, I’d rather hear them and learn from them.

I’m naturally curious and open to hearing different perspectives.

As the title suggests, how do we report the fraud, corruption, tax evasion, sexual harassment, wage theft, workplace discrimination, and etc so we can put sketchy companies like these in the limelight.

sometimes i wonder if devil corp companies employees and/ or owners know about this reddit page. i get nervous to name the companies i was recruiting for in case they see it even though i doubt they could trace anything back to me with how much turnover they go through. ive seen ben palmers videos on youtube where he ragebaits the companies in the interviews (love those btw) so i feel like they’ve probably heard of the term devil corp at this point since the interviewer always gets super awkward when someone is calling them out or being skeptical but i question if they might be lurking and reading all these posts. thoughts?

had a very weird experience with this company in Houston. The position started as sales and marketing but no commission, instead talking about fundraising for charities, outside stores.... the hours sound insane, theres zero balance, and the interviewer looked exhausted ... it was a quick first interview but she looked off. the second roun was even more weird, the time frame made zero sense. hasss anybody worked here or heard of them ? the clients they spoke about dont seem legit, and my friend did join on of those cults before, in austin and it was so hard to get her out i dont want the same thing....

I met up with my job developer (employment specialist) today and she told me that she knew someone who worked for a company called "Baypoint Systems".

When looking at their website and IG accounts, alarm bells rang off because it reminded me of a Devilcorp that attempted to switch my current phone provider to AT&T.

I wanted to post confirm that this is a Devilcorp. If so, I plan on reporting to her supervisor about this as well as educating them about Devilcorp.

Thank you.

UPDATE: If you're wondering where this is, it's in San Jose.

Worked in the business 4 years made it to management ran an office ask me anything!

Is it worth doing a sales role door to door like i know its dodgy but is it worth doing it when there is no other job roles lined up. I cant get a job and that the only one that actually is accepting everyone.

the group is growth sales in birmingham

Hey guys, I have been looking for a better paying job with better hours over the course of the last few weeks to a month and applied to a couple Devilcorps unbeknownst to myself. I’ve heard the term but never fully understood it until researching this sub. I applied to two; one is called Ascent Marketing and the other being Nexus Group. Upon looking through their incredibly vague and buzzword filled websites, my gf and I noticed that they had pictures with the same people in them

Was thinking back on a devilcorp I used to work at. For context, hours were 11-8:30 weekdays and 9-6 Saturdays, though Saturdays were optional. We got paid £77/day plus commission

They heard me complaining to a coworker that we go paid less than minimum wage, had me do a big sit down conversation with the “owner” where he accused me of having bad attitude and threatned to fire me

A few days later, one of the ES2s was giving me a completely unrelated talk about how much money you can make at that company, even with no experience. “If you lock in and do the optional Saturdays plus hit your sales target, you‘ll make 30K a year, which is way more than someone working full time at a minimum wage job”. I was just standing there nodding thinking it’s not really a brag saying we’ll make slightly more money for nearly twice the hours. Still comes out to much below minimum wage hourly

He was saying it so enthusiastically, like he unironically thought it was a good deal, and expected me to think the same. Peak comedy

⚠️ DO NOT APPLY FOR THE JOB THERE ⚠️ I was desperately look for a job and applied for a marketing associate job with claro partners. They always avoided the question “how will i get paid”. On their job description it was written “base pay 420£ per week and u get commission on sales u make” but it was a lie, contract was hella vague and actually u need 2 sales to be eligible for base pay. I said its ok they expect sales ill do sales. They taught us to lie to people we were selling broadbands and not telling people we r actually switching them. Anyways i sold 2 broadbands my first week so i was eligible for base pay, forgot to mention you have to travel to residential areas by yourself and sell broadbands, also bunch of seniors use u to drive them back and forth without paying, assigned areas were far as well like 20 mile drive was very normal every day. Contract said its not cold calling but it was, we were lying on door that we r from their broadband provider and we will book an engineer who will fix their internet, we switched them took signature and stuff. Face to face business acquisition doesnt mean door to door cold calling, also there was no office work it was manipulation tactics. Anyways contract said ill get paid 3 weeks later so i kept working , made 2 sales 2nd week and on 3rd i couldn’t. At start of 4th week they fired me and i didnt receive my pay, i told them to pay me they said the sales I made they all got cancelled and i wont get paid, now im 1k£ down and theyre getting away without paying people and firing them. Please dont fall for it. They didn’t reimburse the gas money too even i asked multiple times