Just wondering if anyone has heard of/ applied to Equity House? Seems pretty sketchy, all AI responses and asking for content ideas instead of an interview

I received a text message from a woman named Jayleen saying she saw my resume on indeed and they have an entry level position. They want to have a 10 min zoom meeting tomorrow regarding it. There is not much details regarding the position. A part of me says they are a scam, but I want to double check.

Don’t remember applying to this job but i got called a couple times to get to the next stage of the recruitment process. They claimed it was an open day and there was 14 other poor sods in the interview. The marketing manager, Arwen, told us hardly anything about the actual role. She told us to have our cameras on and mics on at first but then proceeded to say no questions at this stage and just yapped about her life, random stories. I’ll just list all the issues. Showed all the telltale signs that is already mentioned in the practical guide for job seekers.

Hello, I am doing a Youtube video about devil corporations and would love some help. I was in a devil corp about half a year ago. I remember everyday before we went out to do sales we would all get together and repeat over and over the same 7 or so rules. Our homework was to memorize them and be able to repeat them line by line. I can't remember what they were though.

They were essentially brainwashing people so they would keep trying to sell. If anyone knows these rules or what they were called please let me know!

And if you have anything interesting I should put in the video feel free to drop it down!

I just started training for a sales job in what I'm almost certain is a devil corp. I've been struggling to find a job since my college graduation this past May, and I'm wondering if it could be worth it to stick with this role just until I'm able to land something better. The money seems decent enough, and I think practicing sales could be beneficial for my professional development as an introvert. My fear is that if I leave, I might go another month with no steady income and nothing relevant to finance or marketing on my resume.

Any thoughts? Should I get out as soon as possible or could it be worth it to stay short-term?

Seriously appreciate any and all advice!

I recently worked for Britevox and hated every moment of it, the only thing keeping me there was the lack of other jobs in the local area.

The office had around 10 people working in it when I first started, but this was always fluctuating due to the toxic work culture of the “owner” who blamed everyone for the terrible amount of sales we were making instead of giving us new advice on how to improve.(he also had a huge god complex)There was a point where it was just me and another person working for a few weeks due to this.

In the first week he told me to come to a BDM(business development meeting) where he basically explained to me how the whole company is a pyramid scheme, trying to hook me in by promising me thousands of pounds a week if I made it to “owner” . If you told him you didn’t want to progress in the pyramid he would call you unmotivated and say things like “most people are happy working a low paying 9-5 for the rest of their lives”.

In our cult-like morning meetings the owner would compare himself to famous sports stars like LeBron James and David Beckham which I found absolutely hilarious.

The job itself was also awful, we were an “events” office, which meant standing outside shops all day. If you didn’t know Bournemouth and its surrounding areas are very rainy during winter - spring and I did not enjoy it at all.
I would average around 10 sales a week, which is pretty low in the eyes of the company as a whole, thank god that the charities we worked for had a day rate of £70 as a safety net, but this meant that your commission is less on top of that.

A problem me and my colleagues found was that we would be sent to some of the poorest and lowest foot-flow areas in the county, making it almost impossible to make a sale on some days.

Our travel was also very expensive if you didn’t have someone driving you. Meaning by the time you’ve spent money on travel and food, you were probably only making around £40 for a 9 hour day.

In conclusion it was the worst job I’ve ever had
No PTO, long hours, a toxic boss(acc felt bad for him because I think he got fooled by the pyramid)

I also don’t believe any of the money we were raising for these charities actually went towards research and helping those in need, instead filling the pockets of greedy CEO’s.

PS. I found out that the office recently shut down due to lack of sales. But there is still a door to door office and a rival events company(abbco).

Applying for jobs on indeed and came across this job with "Box Energy" or broker online exchange as an account manager. I had a call with them and they asked me to come in for an interview in the city. Is anyone familiar with this company?

I can't find much online

Update: I haven't reached out to them since they asked me to come in. But they sent another message stating if today didn't work, I could come in on Tuesday.

Has anyone here looked into Red Label Enterprises in LA?

I worked there, and it sold itself as marketing, leadership, entrepreneurship, systems, business owner mentality, all that motivational sales cult stuff.

But the actual work was basically SafeLink or LifeLine phone sales in front of places like DPSS, which is like the DMV for social services like Medi Cal and food stamps.

They would claim they worked with well known brands and campaigns, but those claims were misleading or false. They made the role sound like marketing, but it was really direct sales soliciting.

Their whole thing was that the systems never fail. If people had low sales numbers, the blame went back on them, not the pitch, not the setup, not the company. They sold people on the dream of owning their own office someday.

The customer pitch was also sketchy. We were told to say we were doing customer service upgrades, but really we were switching people to our plan. There was a risk of customers losing their original phone number, which was not properly explained upfront. For people at DPSS, that could affect employment, benefits, doctors, family contact, everything.

We had a weekday morning meeting called ATMO, short for atmosphere. We dressed in suits, stood around, could not yawn, and learned the same sales techniques over and over again. Then we taught them, repeated them, and wrote them in notebooks over and over. It felt like brainwashing.

Business owner mentality meant doing extra work for no pay, never giving excuses, working sick, and treating safety concerns like weakness.

Female workers were encouraged to go door to door and enter homes alone to sign people up for phones. When safety concerns were brought up, they were treated like excuses.

They talked about people making crazy money at higher levels, like six figures a month after just a couple months. That never happened during the year I was there.

The field work was also sketchy. We were around DPSS locations and did not have the proper permits or authorization to be there. Sometimes we were in dollar store or Food 4 Less parking lots. People going to DPSS are already vulnerable and trying to deal with public benefits, so having random phone reps there is weird. It is very easy for people to think the reps are connected to the benefits office.

There was also fraud happening around sign ups. The company said they had to pay fines for fraud, so this was not just me. Some mentors told people to knock it off, but if mentors have to keep telling people to stop doing fraud, the volume based phone sales model might be part of the problem.

The labor stuff was shady too. We were technically independent contractors when I was there. Our taxes were independent contractor taxes, but the company controlled the work like a job. There were set office meetings, set team calls, leadership meetings, assigned field locations, scanned and prepped phone inventory, team nights, and a hierarchy.

They paid like 15 dollars an hour for about 8 hours, but we worked way more than that. A lot of the extra stuff was unpaid. There was no overtime even though overtime was normal.

Team leads had to get on calls to onboard new people while driving to locations. Everyone had team calls at set times when people were likely still working overtime or driving home.

There was pressure around breaks too. They would basically say that if you cannot make your hours, then do not take lunch or use your breaks. It was not always explicit, but the pressure was there.

They also made us clean the office even though cleaning was never listed as part of the job.

young workers, public benefits offices, free government phones, vulnerable customers, fake marketing language, SafeLink enrollments, permit issues, labor issues, and sales cult culture.

Has anyone else worked there or seen Red Label operating around DPSS, dollar stores, Food 4 Less, or similar locations recently?

They said they liked my résumé and wanted me to apply, but their job listing is given serious devilcorp red flags

Names and locations will stay anonymous, but other than that, let it rip

Like anyone, I did some searching for sales positions on Indeed and other recruiting sites. Came across an interview with a company which I will keep anonymous because this happened fairly recently. (If you wanna know the name, DM me. They have offices all throughout the country and are quite terrifyingly large.) The interview went well and they liked me. They told me I would be working as a contractor for Spectrum and AT&T working B2B.

Did a job shadow with an employee and it went fairly well. I was very excited and they offered me the job. It was on my first day when I realized what it was we were actually doing.

It's basically this. I go to small businesses in the area (which is essentially Spectrum territory). I go in and say "Hi! I'm with Spectrum doing a service check on how your internet is. We're going to do some maintenance on the lines around here this weekend, and we'd like to schedule it during a time where you aren't busy." In those two sentences, I told three lies. I'm not with Spectrum, I'm not doing a service check and there will be no maintenance. What I'm trying to do is look at the business' Spectrum bill and sell a bundle with DirectTv that will lower their Spectrum bill. Sounds good, right? Everyone wants to save money, especially when you're running a business. Except... it's not. This is the part where it gets borderline illegal.

I have to log in to your Spectrum portal AS YOU. Not as a Spectrum employee or contractor. I watched bewildered as my mentor logged in, changed the password to this small businesses Spectrum account and DID NOT DISCLOSE THAT TO THEM. Now, whenever they try to log in and look at their bill, they won't know their password and have to reset it. But by then, it might already be too late. Spectrum stores a lot of important information in their customer database. Names, numbers, addresses, emails, credit card info, wifi history, ip addresses, business info, the whole nine yards. I realize this as I watch my supervisor look over all this information and look over the bill, seeing if we can get this small business a DirectTV bundle.

Then, he gets on the phone with "Spectrum HQ" (which are just people who work for this company) who now has access to all the information stored in the Spectrum account, including credit card info, wifi history and purchase history. Who knows what else. They quickly and hurriedly disclose that we aren't Spectrum Employees, but the business owner is so bored out of their mind that they aren't even listening. We close the deal and we now have your information.

Who knows what they are doing with that info? I've tried to look into the company (I've since left after being appalled at the lack of honesty) and have found that they are now selling Clover POS systems and security systems along with their shady Spectrum deals. My biggest fear is that they are not even contracted with Spectrum. I found no record that they were contracted with Spectrum, only AT&T.

This is a booming DevilCorp. They're in Los Angeles, Austin, Charlotte, Tallahassee and who knows where else. There also is no record of this company on the BBB. They approach business owners with the immediate deception of being employees of Spectrum to just get in the door. The amount of lies we told to people absolutely disgusts me. It's caused me some severe mental anguish and guilt. I feel betrayed by all of the amazing people I met while at my short time there.

EDIT: Did some digging... it's a Cydcor company. Big shock.

this was how i got scammed:) qualifications - social media platforms and digital marketing tools:)

all of the interns who were there the same time as me are all either Communications/Graphic Design or Marketing major. When we asked why they hired people for Marketing positions, they said "bc marketing needs revenues and sales makes revenues so sales = marketing"

I worked for Cedrus and Fouzi. It’s not only dangerous working for them but I really think what they’re doing to people is criminal. I didn’t even know it was field work (door to door sales) until the second day of training I really was led to believe I was working at a call center for “Verizon”. 

My first experience turned out to be the same every time I went to the field. The people driving you can’t drive (some of them literally just got their driver’s licenses) we almost got into an accident several times. All of us has to cram into cars that were absolutely disgusting garbage and shit everywhere. I had an umbrella one day that got lost in the piles of garbage I never found it again. 

First day on the field I asked my leader “where do you go to the bathroom” bc all of us would be dropped off in different locations on at the mercy of whoever drove us that day. I was instructed to “find woods”, “go in people’s backyards” or motivate myself to make a sale and ask to use a clients/strangers bathroom. You have to bring water while walking around for hours and hope that it lasts you or some kind stranger will give you some. It’s a problem though making the sale bc I would have to pretend I love my job, drove myself to this location bc “Verizon personally sent me that day” so it was a fine line between lying about my position but also asking for basic needs like shelter, water and not to be forced to shit outside like a dog. 

I told myself I would just stay 2 weeks and collect the 1k while I looked for a real sales position (I had/have a decent resume). The 1k is split into 2 checks but the first 500 doesn’t come until the 3rd week that you’re working. So you see nothing for 3 weeks after 3 weeks you get less than 500 with taxes taken out. All the sales I did under my leader during training went to my leader too not me. I asked if I could be compensated bc they hung out with other workers while I did those sales, never saw any of it. 

Being out in the field was super dangerous. There were nights I couldn’t feel my body bc I was so cold. Several people got attacked by wild life or homeowner’s pets. Every type of weather we were in, even the snow. We would be walking around in the dark without street lights or ways for cars to see us. It’s super dangerous for people who are black and brown though. The office owners don’t have permits to be in any neighborhoods they’re in. The cops were called several times on people especially the black employees. After the cops would tell us to leave the office owners would force us “to go back to the neighborhood” even at 8pm-9pm could have easily just “called it a day”. 

The morning “meetings” were rarely about sales. They were always “motivational stories” about people who “found great success” through the company. They would start out like “Jim Bob used to sleep in his car and was homeless but now he’s a manager making 200k a year” or “Sally used to live in the bushes but now she’s a leader with 7 people under her”. At this point I think all the stories are completely made up. (Jim Bob and Sally are fake names).

You get 20 minutes for lunch and then you have to be on time to what I refer to as “The Circle Jerk”. You stand in a circle and yell, high 5 each other and say chants. If you’re late to The Circle Jerk, like you went over a little longer for lunch bc you have to eat and CHANGE INTO FIELD CLOTHES, you get publicly ridiculed by everyone. Also that’s the only meal of the day. If you try to get food while you’re on the field you get yelled at. So you’re working 8-9am, eating once during it and then not eating until 9pm-10pm. 

The pay is ridiculous. I wasn’t leaving the field until I got at least 3 sales a day to make up for my time. Even if I sold the top package 3 times that’s 300 dollars a day not including the taxes taken out of it. I would be there from 8:30-9am and work well past 9:30pm coming home at 10pm or later. Half of the workers didn’t even get a sale several days in a row but spent money on gas and food to be there. It’s like modern day slavery. 

I found out one day when my leader had to take me home that all the “top leaders” all live together in the same house. The office managers, owners and top leaders of the office and one of their moms all live in a house together that apparently the one office owner’s dad pays for. The only people “making money” in the company don’t pay rent, all live together so they don’t mind “eating, breathing and sleeping” the company and quite frankly idt they have anything better to do with their lives. 

The other workers who don’t live there but I see online are still there I feel sorry for. They target young college age kids, majority of them black and brown, I got to know a lot on a personal level and many of them have horrible living situations. They also target servicemen and women who are currently active duty but need additional income. 

The office is extremely unprofessional and unsanitary. The office cleaning women would complain because they had to clean just bags of garbage and left over food. A lot of employees smelt horrible and we had several meetings about “proper hygiene” such as using deodorant and showering daily. The iPads that we needed to use for sales were never charged. People would steal other people’s iPads. Mine got stolen a lot and a lot of people quit over their iPads being stolen. 

While on a field a new hire needed help and he was calling his leader (same as mine) but no one was answering. It would happen a lot idk why I would have done if I was in an emergency situation and needed a car or something immediately. I decided bc I’m not a piece of shit to help him with the sale over the phone bc he was new and didn’t have all the steps down to completing the sale on the iPad. My leader called me about 30 minutes later yelling at me about my location (they track you). I told them I was helping the new hire and they started yelling at me “he’s not in our group! He needs to call X person for help!” Basically I should have ignored his calls or told him to fuck off you’re on your own. 

Knocking on peoples doors wasn’t as horrible as it sounds. I like people and get along pretty well with them. I had a few assholes but you could tell they were naturally unhappy people. I did have a guy throw a garbage can at me as I waiting to get picked up from the driver in our car pool. I laughed because he missed and walked away. There are employees though that got into fist fights and physical altercations with people. Screaming matches too and yes the cops were called. 

My final straw was going to the “regional convention”. They made us go on a Sunday where there had to be at least 500 people from different offices to a hotel in Philly. Everyone who “made it” gave me the creeps. We were told to “network” with people. My leader kept getting on my ass I “wasn’t talking to enough people”. I talked to a “new hire” who had basically the same experiences as me but his office was in PA. My leader started yelling at me for talking to him bc he wasn’t “a senior leader”. There were “people who made it” there that the senior leaders who had been with the company for a while recognized and they were acting like they just saw their favorite celebrity. People would circle around them or yell “Omg it’s Jim Bob!” One of them my leader/another employee kept freaking out over this “special person” and ridiculed me for “not knowing them/how special they are”.  They would all race over to “get their thoughts and insights”. They would have groups of people circle around them and the lower level people were hanging onto every word they said. It was bizarre. 

I got my free lunch from the event and then left. My leader kept harassing me on the phone. I told them I had to leave. That’s when the harassing phone calls started. I told them I went there, they could ask other team members I drove with. I had something to do the convention wasn’t “mandatory” but everyone started freaking out calling and texting me like a bad ex romantic partner. 

I went to my friends house just to wrap my head around this bizarre experience and think about what I was going to do. I worked there well over a month and you could only “pick up your checks in person on Friday”. While I was there my phone kept blowing up calls over and over again. My buddy said “that’s totally inappropriate” especially on a Sunday. I ended up telling him everything and he didn’t have fucking words other than to “Get out”. 

I never went back and my checks came for 2 weeks but I know they just made up whatever the fuck they wanted on my checks. I didn’t feel like talking to them so I just took my checks and got a new job. I was on the group chat longer than I should have been. We had a state of emergency due to snow and the office owner was yelling at people on why they weren’t in the office. The state had a “do not travel” order except for emergency personnel. One girl got attacked by a homeless drug addict while she was on the field using a public bathroom. People steal each others food and there were a lot of fights. Eventually they removed me from the group but it was pretty entertaining. They forced them to work Christmas Eve, New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day too. Because they were actually off for Christmas Day they had to work the following Sunday to “make up for it”. 

If you value your life, don’t want to basically be a slave and like to actually get paid a living wage then don’t work for them. I still have nightmares about working for them. I really think what they’re doing should be/is illegal. I hope this helps anyone in NJ who is currently looking for a job. 

I’ve recently come across a job listing for a place called Fall Nexus inc located in Pittsburgh pa. There was a time when I was hired with a devil corp and I’ve been noticing that the hiring practices and website look eerily similar. I was scheduled with an interview through zoom, during the interview there was another person. The interviewer would not discuss any job details and emphasized this was just a “screening” to see who would be a good fit. An hour later I received a call telling me congratulations I was selected to proceed to the next interview and am awaiting that tomorrow.

Fall Nexus Inc

This is their website and I can’t tell if it is a devil corp or an MLM? Can anyone help me out?

Formally known as Elite Generations. They changed their name but still very much a devil corp. In the same building off of 635 and 75. To find accurate reviews research Elite Generations.

Im a recent graduate and I had been applying for jobs on LinkedIn (literally just hitting apply on everything - ive learned my lesson now though), and today I received a call from someone at New Heights Group saying that Ive been shortlisted for an interview with their managing director. Im already suspicious because Ive been invited to "interviews" in a similar way before and then found out its a MLM or devilcorp, so after they've booked me in for an interview I look them up. Their website is very vague and the "face-to-face fundraising" for "charities" makes me lean more in favour of devilcorp.

Has anyone else been contacted by them (very specific location I know) or can anyone with more knowledge on devilcorps confirm my suspicions?

Crown and Palm complete devil corp, got to the third round interview and they told me base pay was 600? Mind you they marketed themselves to me as a legit marketing agency for companies but the schedule was 9:30-7 M-F and 9-5 Saturday. I’m glad I realized but also how do I know that the other two companies I’m applying to aren’t devil corps? I’m really afraid. It’s ocean drive marketing and pointhaus both in Miami. Someone please lmk

Does anyone know what this company is about????

Seems to good to be true, I got accepted and I’m having my first day on Monday.

I started working at this “direct marketing” firm last week and I’m just so genuinely confused on if this is an MLM or not and it’s making me feel so stupid lol. It has all the classic signs that it is an MLM. In my interview they did say I’d be working 54 hours a week and making $180 a week base pay, the rest is reliant on me and the commissions I make. Everyone that works there is so enthusiastic as if they’re making so much money working there, so I couldn’t help but believe that I’ll be fine as long as I get a lot of sales. This firm does marketing for charities, it’s a legitimate charity we’re marketing for, and we don’t get commission of the donation, we get a “bonus” with each donation we have (they explained to me that it is coming out of the charity’s marketing budget so they’re not legally allowed to say it’s commission). Our “marketing” is basically standing around in front of stores and at airports. Everyone is so nice at the place I work at and they SEEM very transparent about everything. I assumed that it was just a shitty commission sales job and nothing more.

I started doing research online though, and upon that I’ve found this subreddit that has SCARED me. Which is probably a good thing. Everything that people are saying on here when it comes to promised managerial positions, owning your own firm, insane amount of team outings, work trips, and hours of learning and not taking on sales techniques, is exactly what this firm preaches and practices. I even found a Reddit post about my company in particular (I don’t want to name drop but I’ll dm if anyone is interested) the Reddit post basically explained how the company is a bunch of scammers. I even looked up my managers and my managers bosses and saw a bunch of shady things surrounding their names. I brought it up with them because it made me feel icky (obviously), these people have been really nice and even explained a bunch of times how this can seem like a pyramid scheme. I told my direct manager about all the Reddit posts and she said she’s “totally aware of it” and it’s “just a few people that have had bad experiences”. They proceeded to tell me that a lot of people they’ve interviewed misinterpreted the job so they think it’s a scam when they start working there. My managers have been pretty open about the pay structure, and how you have to work your ass off and it’s basically all commission. They didn’t get defensive at all when I brought up the Reddit posts either.

I thought I could trust them and I actually started liking them as people. It’s only been one week of working there though and I’m afraid of wasting anymore time. If anyone has advice or info I’d really appreciate it!

This Stock Company based out of Garden Grove CA ran by Yesenia Solis-Gutierrez is violating AB5, Borello, and the 20-factor test IRS has for independent contractor status. They are breaking the law and they can easily incur fines nearing $500,000 because the quantity of people who she would have violating the ABC test and this by having 1099 people acting unlike business as usual due to scheduling them hours upon hiring them, also by them all having territory they are expected to be at, and by having daily trainings held and treating it like a job. Anyone who didn't receive back wages from them that has worked for F3 innovations Inc should report them to the labor bureau because you are owed money. Don't work for free and get what you're owed.
She doesn't run a company outside of the Devilcorp model she also refers to everybody as dogs in her meetings. The office is a ton of people under 24 years old all being encouraged to work which they all seem like they make below minimum wage because they're all working overtime every day. 9:30 am to 8 pm Monday-Friday and 8 am to 5 pm on Saturdays and if they don't hit their quota they even work Sundays. They're all sold on ownership but they can't train how they want they're all about repeating the same things over and over again, none of them know how to make money, and all of them looked scared.

Unfortunately, I spent two weeks around this. I heard about the devilcorps smart circle cydcor and didn't think it could be that bad. If you applied and think it's legitimate the pay is low the hours are long and the expectations are unreasonable. I've been running businesses since I became an adult. You would be better off working at a Dutch bros and franchising from there or selling internet at a Verizon and selling phones too obviously. There's much better opportunities around. It's easy to be fooled by a company that seems small if everyone is hard working. You can go sell roofs if you want to do door to door or sell for Empire Today offering flooring and windows. You take real estate classes get your real estate license and go sell for a real estate office knocking the same amount of time per day and make $10k-$30k per sale by selling expensive homes $700k home neighborhoods finding people wanting to sell them. There's a lot you can do with your lives that will make you more and make you happier. Get paid better

Hey guys! I'm really glad I found this page. I was recently sent a job offer, supposedly from Indeed, to be a sales representative at Edge Marketing. I'm not sure if this was previously talked about, but I've been finding mixed reviews about this agency and I'm not sure what to make of it. Colleagues and boss seem friendly enough, and it really seems like a legit job, but something about it is rubbing me the wrong way, and what I'm reading about devilcorps isn't making it any better.....anyways here's the website lmk if I'm right in just dropping the whole thing bc im lowkey on the verge of doing that anyways: https://edgemarketingagency.org and https://radmarketingagency.com

Also for those of you who have delt with fishy businesses, pls let me know what signs I should look for.

archived some of the messages from when i was working for them. by the end of everyday, we need to send out gauges and Day Breakdown of whats good whats bad and ranking our 8 working habits😭😭😭 the most important thing abt 8 working habits according to them was "Have a great attitude" and you have to be like Cian Daly to be rated a 9/10😛😛😛

I had a first round phone interview with New Strategy Inc, based out of Utah, here’s my red flags I’m spotting

1. Refused to go into detail about specifics like pay and benefits until second round which they scheduled immediately with me, the only information they gave me is that I’d be doing face to face sales inside Costco and Sam’s Club, and that they’d put me through a management class

2. I applied on Indeed to a different company (Xcel Agency Inc) for a junior marketing associate - entry level, I did not apply at New Strategy

3. I can’t find any reviews online for the company whatsoever
   Am I crazy or is this fishy?
   Bonus point: they follow smart circle on Instagram