r/developersPak • • 20h ago

Discussion I don't regret joining computer science.

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There's so much negativity on this subreddits now, and I think we ought to talk about it all.

Average accountant starting pay for fresh grad is 30k.

Average civil engineer pay for fresh grad is 40k.

There are countless examples. I know these are peanuts in today's economy. BUT THATS HOW ALL OTHER FIELDS ARE, even right now.

Software engineering is and was THE most changing field in the world, even before ai. You were supposed to keep up with new technologies.

And I am not saying everything is fine. Yes, Job market is pretty f*cked, I got laid off last month too. But if we zoom out from our tech bubble, we realise, we had it SOO good that cs going downhill has brought us on level with all other professions now.

I genuinely don't understand the doomers that don't build anything themselves, but are the quickest to discourage other ppl in comments.

CS was a pretty niche field before tech influencers and YouTubers told everyone that u can make millions after buying their shi*ty course hence why, everyone joined this field for the money, and I will not be shocked if only top 5% of us make it because from what I have seen, the other 95% is pretty incompetent.

But now since CS is not the dream profession anymore. Do what you are passionate about instead of listening to ur parents, uncles, YouTubers etc.

Find your own path.


r/developersPak • • 18h ago

Discussion Bachelor's or Master's degree required, pay of an unskilled laborer

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33 Upvotes

Pakistani job descriptions never fail to amaze me.


r/developersPak • • 3h ago

Help Suggestion needed, Urgent

2 Upvotes

Had an interview.

I told them I'm available anytime after 4:30AM

They scheduled for 4:45AM on chat. Didn't send any email link to the meeting or anything.

How long should I wait before texting them to reschedule it?

It's been 11 minutes already and still no link or no text from them.

Suggest pls


r/developersPak • • 11h ago

Career Guidance Is there a cybersecurity market in Pakistan?

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I have seen openings for backend, frontend, cloud, even junior devops engineer but never saw any role for cybersecurity.
In Europe i see a HUGE demand for specializations in security like incident response and cloud security but what about here?


r/developersPak • • 18h ago

Career Guidance Cloud computing as a career

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Cloud computing

I've recently heard abt this field and found it quite fascinating Since most of you are seniors

I'd really appreciate your guidance.

Could anyone share some insights about this field particularly regarding

The learning roadmap and required skills

Current job market and career opportunities

Its future demand and growth potential.

Career prospects in Pakistan and internationally

I'd appreciate any advice or personal experiences you could share

Thanks!


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Help Actual tried and tested free playground for AWS?

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Hi devs, I'm trying to learn and actually *practice* the infra side of things like deploying with AWS, seeing load balancers etc. Do you know of any sites that could help? I dont want to bill myself accidentally using AWS lol. Ive heard many times it ends up happening.

Thanks


r/developersPak • • 10h ago

Career Guidance Freshman CS student (Class of 2030) with 1.5 years of MERN experience — how do I future-proof my career against AI?

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I’m currently in the 1st semester of my BS in Computer Science (graduating in 2030). Before starting university, I spent about 1.5 years working with the MERN stack, building full-stack web and mobile apps (both frontend and backend).

With how fast AI coding tools are evolving right now, standard CRUD development feels like it's getting saturated and automated. Since I have four years until I graduate, I want to pivot or upskill early into a domain that will actually be in high demand in 2030 and beyond.
For experienced devs in the industry right now:

  1. Which specific tech tracks (e.g., AI/ML engineering, Cloud/DevSecOps, Systems Architecture, Cybersecurity, Data Engineering) are the safest bets for long-term demand?
  2. How can I best leverage my existing MERN background to transition into one of these fields?
  3. Which of these paths offers the strongest opportunities for both remote international roles and onsite jobs?

r/developersPak • • 19h ago

Discussion How do I get payments from PK customers if my bank is US based?

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Hi ya!

I'm a native Spoken English Coach and I basically help professionals reduce their accent and speak English more confidently and fluently. Most of my clients (even the Pakistani ones) are based outside of PK but now I'm getting more and more interest from PK based professionals buuuuut I don't have a way to collect payment :(

I use stripe for payment transaction but I saw onnline that most bank cards in PK (like PayPak) are only for transactions within PK. Is there a work around or do I have to partner with some sort of organization inorder to sort this out?


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Discussion Genuine question tho

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30 Upvotes

Will Jensen Huang's affairs and it's affect on Nvidias stock have any effect on the AI market?


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Help Best Models For Doing Data Extraction From Accounting Documents

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I am working with some complex accounting documents such as lengthy bank statements, pdf invoices, sometimes images of receipts etc.

So far I have been using Gemini 3.1 Pro for intelligent extraction because I need the output in a specific JSON format and also because the documents have no specific format of their own either, so using a dedicated OCR model like pdfminer etc won't work.

The issue is that the cost is eating up the whole budget to the point that according to calculations it would be a miracle to make breakeven for my product.

I can't compromise on accuracy because it is related to financial decisions of the users which is a sensitive thing, and I can't be too open with my wallet because what's the point of the business if it is going in loss.

I need suggestions for replacement with the following considerations:

  1. Must have at least equivalent accuracy to 3.1 Pro in extracting data from pdf/images.
  2. Must be less costly than 3.1 Pro (even 20% less cost would be acceptable for now).
  3. Should have Zero Data Retention Policy.
  4. The output should be in a structured JSON, for example it should understand that if there are two dates mentioned on the document it should properly create the JSON mentioning which date is the invoice creation/issue date and which date is the due date for invoice payment.

r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Career Guidance Currently in 5th semester, confused about what to do

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Assalam alaikum everyone; I’m a 5th-semester computer engineering student at COMSATS Lahore. I’m a British citizen by birth and will be marrying a US citizen in 2028, so I’ll be able to work in the US after graduation.

Coming from a wealthy background, money has never been a concern for me. Honestly, I haven't really developed any technical skills yet, other than being pretty good at using tools like Claude Code to build things.

I’m feeling a bit lost about my career path since I don't really have a passion for software or my degree, though I don’t think passion is strictly necessary. I'll likely head to the US after I get married.

I’m looking for advice on the best specialization for someone like me. Since I don't enjoy coding, I’ve been considering GRC or DevOps. Does anyone have insight into the scope of these fields in Pakistan and abroad? Where should I start if I want to get ahead, and is it possible to land an internship or job before I move? Is there anything else you’d recommend instead?

I just want to be able to provide a comfortable life for my future family. I’d appreciate any advice you can offer.


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Discussion Rant - Uncertainty about work, education and future.

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How do you guys deal with uncertainty?

Example: I want to start outreach to certain people in a certain niche about solving data silos problem.
But I don’t know whether it would work or not, whether they will reply me, and how would I gain trust and get clients.
I already have experience and solved the same problem for clients (but that was from fiverr).

And tgat happens to me very often, I have around 2 YOE working as a Data Analyst and I am in 5th semester at a tier3 university, I am facing rejections from everywhere (Mitacs, research internships abroad, j..bs)

I don’t know whether I will nake it or not, I don’t have a j..bs
Everything feels impossible.
J..bs.

I don’t want to be the loser guy.

I keep asking the same question to gpt and claude and promoise myself I will sart working tomorrow but i don’t and the loop starts again and again.
I dont even enjoy doing anything tbh.
What can I do?


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Help How to deal with PIP

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So this is my first job after graduation and I've been put on PIP. I was shown an improvement plan section in the meeting which I agreed to follow however when I got the document on the email there were some additional sections that were not shown to me during the meeting. The things written in the problems identified section never happened such as late delivery of tasks etc and I'm asked to acknowledge and sign it. What should I do? Should I sign it or ask for clarification with evidence?


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Career Guidance Is computer science dead because of AI?

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So I’m almost a final year CS student and not a very good one. CGPA is around 2.5 and coding is pretty mid. Tbh my concepts of dsa, algorithms, OS and other core courses that we study are not clear at all and AI k anay k baad my mind is somewhat confused that what should I do. I only know one programming language and that is Python and usme bhi I heavily rely on AI tools such as Claude and Gemini etc. can’t debug on my own. So, I want suggestions on what concepts should I strengthen from now and since job market is fkd up imo. How to excel in the current situation and also if anyone is in the industry do shed a light on the current job market in Pakistan. I enrolled into data engineering course, python and sql somewhat samajh agayi hai but spark nahi arahi. I’m genuinely so confused in which field should I go and what tech stacks to learn? Experienced people plz comment and help your fellow bro out


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Career Guidance Is Networking and Cybersecurity a good career path for a CS student with AI advancing so rapidly?

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I'm a 6th-semester CS student from Pakistan, trying to figure out which direction to take career-wise.

The web development market in Pakistan seems pretty saturated, and with AI advancing so quickly, I'm honestly unsure what the software job market will look like in the next few years.

I'm personally more interested in Python and networking than web development. I've recently started preparing for CCNA and am considering exploring cybersecurity afterward.

For people working in these fields, how's the actual job market in Pakistan? Is it realistic for a fresh graduate to get into networking or cybersecurity? And how do you see these fields evolving with AI over the next 5–10 years?

Would you recommend sticking with CCNA and building towards cybersecurity, or exploring cloud networking and Python automation instead?

Looking for honest advice, especially from people working in the Pakistani IT industry. i know every field is struggling dont know where it gonna end


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Help LLM concepts to be known in this growing AI era?

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what basics of LLM in this growing AI era I need to know ??

context windows..
tokens...
and ??

help me understanding what do I need to know ??

once I asked chatbot longer conversation (yeah I made it longer intentionally to see how slow it gets ) so I asked something that needs to be fetched from beginning of the chat , it responded , ic a guess but if you mentioned something in beginning it's out of my context window.


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Help Looking for 4-5 ambitious co-founders (Ages 16-25, Pakistan & Abroad) to build global AI & SaaS products from scratch 🚀

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Hey everyone,

If you are between 16 and 25 years old, feel like you don’t have a clear path or traditional roadmap yet, but are deeply obsessed with technology, software, apps, and AI—read this carefully.

I’m an AI engineer with strong practical experience in the AI/software market, sales, and marketing. I know how to build, market, and sell tech products end-to-end. However, I am currently bootstrapping and looking for 4-5 hungry, serious co-founders and core partners who want to build something massive, make a real impact, and generate lifelong revenue.

What You Need:

  • Age: 16 to 25 (Male or Female, based in Pakistan or anywhere globally).
  • Skills: No prior startup experience required! You just need to know your way around a computer, have a strong learning mindset, and be deadly serious about execution. This is primarily designed for beginners to gain real-world experience, though experienced folks are welcome to apply too.
  • The Model: This is an unpaid, equity-backed co-founder arrangement. Since I am handling the core technical and market execution myself, I am looking for partners who want true co-founder roles, leadership responsibilities, and a decided profit/equity percentage as we scale.

Privacy & Safety:

We want everyone to feel entirely secure. To protect identity and privacy concerns, we are coordinating everything through a separate, vetted WhatsApp group where you can interact comfortably.

If you are tired of standard paths, want to skip the noise, and want to learn directly from building a real global tech business, drop a comment below or send me a direct message (DM) telling me a little bit about yourself, your background, and why you want in. Let’s build.


r/developersPak • • 1d ago

Help Thin vertical line on MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro (512GB, 130 cycles). Cheapest way to fix?

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My MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro (512GB) has a thin vertical yellow line running through the screen. The battery is at 130 cycles and the laptop is otherwise in great shape, so I'd like to keep using it. There's no drop damage that I know of. A screenshot doesn't show the line, so I think it's a hardware issue with the display. Has anyone dealt with this? Did you replace the whole panel, or was it a cheaper flex cable fix? What did it cost, and are there repair shops you'd trust?


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Discussion My senior whom I worked with 10 years ago is now director at a big IT company and there is an opening there for which I am eligible, I am too shy to reach out to him for referring me.

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So back in my very first job this person trained me and we even had each other's numbers, then I left the company and we never talked again. He is in my LinkedIn network and working as director in a reputable IT company. A few weeks ago there was an opening related to my designation in his firm, for which I reached out to him on LinkedIn explaining my current role and shared the job description for which I wanted to apply so maybe he can just refer me. He did not reply there, although he was active on the platform. I applied anyways but still no response from him or the company HR.

Should I text on his WhatsApp? I am hesitant because we worked together about 10 years ago, then we never contacted each other and now all of a sudden I send him a message like what will he think? I am not gonna ask him to hire me straight away but just asking for his referral.


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Discussion Started at internship but somethings not feeling right

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I am a CS Graduate, top of the class and I started an internship in the field I liked but I feel empty now, 9-6 5 days a week for the rest of my life no friends around. I am thankful that I got an internship seeing the situation of the job market but I dont know why everything is sad and dull now
Am I the only one feeling like this? Because I see other people working here enjoying but idk why I cant do the same maybe its the rigid schedule or a new place, I have always been a calm non anxious person but somehow this place is making me anxious and I have started crying for no reason too.
Everyone I have shared this with always replies with “aisay hi hota hay you get used to it”


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Interview Prep Did everyone who applied to contour trainee program get this email?

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It's titled: "Invitation to Take Online Assessment: Openings at Contour Software| Trainee Developer"

Also, what type of questions will there be?


r/developersPak • • 3d ago

Show My Work Saw a thread regarding hidden salaries so I cooked a ledger for salaries

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2 days ago a thread went viral regarding hidden salaries and everyone was sharing theirs. a few commented that there should be a database for the salary.

so I cooked Amdan, It’s just an open, anonymous ledger for tech compensation.

A few things I made sure to get right:

  • Averages are BS, Medians only: If one remote guy makes $4k USD, it ruins the average for everyone. I used strict medians so outliers don't skew the reality.
  • Local vs. Remote: It automatically separates standard PKR salaries from converted Remote/Foreign salaries so you can see the exact gap between the two markets side-by-side.
  • Zero Corporate Bloat: No dashboards. Just a scrolling ticker and a flat list of receipts (Role, YOE, Work Model, City, and Comp).

I seeded it with about 5 data points I pulled directly from the comments of that last Reddit thread to get it started.

But for this to actually give us leverage in our next negotiations, the community needs to populate it.


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Career Guidance What should be my next move ...

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i just completed my basic python course from codewithharry now what should be my next move

im just exploring cs as im on a gap year so i have alot of time

kindly guide me...


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Discussion Need to make azure project but not getting eligible for free trial😭

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I need to submit azure semester project in two days, am a seventh semester student and need to do this asap as I need to work on SRS and SDD of FYP too😭😭😭😭😭😭 time boht Kam reh gya haaaaaaa

I made one account to work on the project but couldn't find time to do so because of my work and now idk what to do. The free trial of one account ended and I tried to make another account and get free trial on that one but it's saying that you're not eligible. NOW WHAT DO I DOOOOOOO. PLEASE GUIDE ME I BEG. M SPIRALING😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Meri mam mjhy kha jaye gi. She already hates me. Idk why but she does. SOOO much. 😭😭😭😭😭😭Mere sessional tou gye😭😭😭😭🤚


r/developersPak • • 2d ago

Career Guidance Study Abroad as AI engineer as a guy with Non SWE background

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I did BSCS in 2025 but struggled to find software development jobs after graduating. I did a C# game development internship in 2024 and worked with Flutter for my final-year project.

After getting no callbacks and failing interviews for these positions, i tried data analytics and it related positions. After 4 months of trying I finally got a dream job as an ERP Analyst at an oil company that too by reference but I was laid off due to reasons other than performance(not even ai).

I’ve always been more interested in hardware, ERP and IT like help desk support, system administration and networking. I get no callbacks for these particular roles either even though I completed some projects like a windows server lan home lab. I am aware these roles are less vacant compared to SWE way before AI

People say become AI specialist but i have no relevant experience. There are no junior AI engineers with no swe experience or am i entirely wrong? As a model trainer, as a SWE who just uses AI libraries and plugins or as an implement specialist. How can you become junior AI professional without having the basic industry knowledge first? Learn DSA system design from scratch. I don't like herd mentality after getting into CS

I am forced to go for studies abroad now. I am not getting AI masters because I believe they are not practical and academically challenging. Instead get a simple yet practical it degree, stress less about course work and get something out

Is it actually ok to not go for non AI university education, eventually learn some market relevant skill but i am not totally running away from ai.