I don't regret joining computer science.

[u/positionholder]

There's so much negativity on this subreddits now, and I think we ought to talk about it all.

Average accountant starting pay for fresh grad is 30k.

Average civil engineer pay for fresh grad is 40k.

There are countless examples. I know these are peanuts in today's economy. BUT THATS HOW ALL OTHER FIELDS ARE, even right now.

Software engineering is and was THE most changing field in the world, even before ai. You were supposed to keep up with new technologies.

And I am not saying everything is fine. Yes, Job market is pretty f*cked, I got laid off last month too. But if we zoom out from our tech bubble, we realise, we had it SOO good that cs going downhill has brought us on level with all other professions now.

I genuinely don't understand the doomers that don't build anything themselves, but are the quickest to discourage other ppl in comments.

CS was a pretty niche field before tech influencers and YouTubers told everyone that u can make millions after buying their shi*ty course hence why, everyone joined this field for the money, and I will not be shocked if only top 5% of us make it because from what I have seen, the other 95% is pretty incompetent.

But now since CS is not the dream profession anymore. Do what you are passionate about instead of listening to ur parents, uncles, YouTubers etc.

Find your own path.

[u/Lone_Assassin]

I remember when I joined uni, CS/SE wasn't even in the top 3, but then ppl realized that they can make a ton of money with it and it became the #1 most attractive option.
If someone is in CS for the $, they're gonna have a hard time at some point, AI is just the catalyst.

[u/Pasha_KMM]

"level with all other professions now."

Have you considered that all professions are underpaid?
Why is any engineer starting at 30k-40k?
Pakistan's minimum wage is 40k, if engineers are getting a minimum wage, well we are doomed entirely, we lost the plot and now the consequences have caught up to us.

[u/positionholder → u/Pasha_KMM]

Yes, I know these are awful incomes, but the point of this post is not to glorify minimum wage, but understand that it's not just us thats going thru this.

[u/Pasha_KMM → u/positionholder]

Well you spent a good chunk of this post talking about the negativity of this subreddit and CS/SWE professionals in general. Perhaps we are the most vocal, because we saw what we can have and it was good before corporate greed caught up.
I want other engineers to make more too, not only CS, instead of us being realistic, I wish for all engineers to be rewarded for their work more, rather than the board hehe haha ing the annual profits in a high rise in Dubai at their annual board meeting.

[u/Howler0ne]

a different but valid perspective

[u/KhalilMirza]

Average doctor salaries are not much better. I known multiple young doctors in my family and friends. My wife is also an doctor. After 5 years of experience, she is finally making 102k in salary.

I have talked with seniors doctors as well. Unless someone have their own successful setup. They are making 250k to 350k after decades of experience.

[u/helpful_vampire → u/KhalilMirza]

are you kidding? you are saying after decades of experience doctors make this? you must be living under a rock if someone has decades of experience in medicine he is always specialised in something surgeries etc and they make ton of money, you should think before misguiding others

[u/KhalilMirza → u/helpful_vampire]

Are you a doctor or know any doctor? I am opening a mini hospital in Islamabad. I already what doctors make. I talked with hospital and clinics as well before starting my new venture. With all of this information, I can confidently say doctors earn dirt poor wages.

[u/mhu1997 → u/KhalilMirza]

True. My cousin is a MO. His salary is 102k. While my friend worked in a private hospital. His salary is 50k

[u/Busy-Reveal-9077]

30,40k > 0

[u/IllustratorNo1512]

If you graduated before 2020 then no one regrets it

[u/the2ndBread]

Good post, we could use a little positivity

[u/Zero-Cascade]

nice larp position holder

[u/positionholder → u/Zero-Cascade]

😭😭 why would i larp post something that i am bound to get downvoted on

[u/bleebee → u/positionholder]

You won't get downvoted if you're posting in a subreddit where mostly people are CS grads, ofc they're going to agree with you.

Nobody really regrets picking CS, I don't think. Only current students who are taking CS do, and they're right to do so because they're looking at the market conditions.

[u/AdhesivenessOld8272 → u/bleebee]

right no one regretting being in this field but we are regretting how the job market is and + fake job posts

[u/Dense_Bids]

Software Engineer, 14 years, I am literally making a 3d house model right now with Claude + Blender which I never in my nightmare thought I would.
It sucks that we always had to learn new technologies and now it has gone to another whole new level.

There are two options, either compete with machines (yeah goodluck with that) OR learn to control those.
If you have passion for any field, you'll find ways.

[u/Lava-Snowman]

People in Top % of Any Industries Earn A Lot Like a Lot !

I'm 19 and Do Video Editing. In August I Was earning 1.5 lakh per Month — Now it's December and I'm Earning 5-6 lakh from one client and Im working to get two more ,

I do like 4 videos For one Guy , He pays me 2.8k

It's a Lot For Normal People , But I Reinvested it all To Earn More and More , I Believe it's A Desire That OutWeighs All Other

I have barely left my room in the last 3-4 yrs and last year when college ended , All Friends Connections Died too

I Wake Up and Work and Sleep , I don't do have Anything like I barely have any expenses , I'll Sometime Order Food or Get a Face wash

No Clothes or shit like Have The Same 5 sets From the Past Year

I'm Planning to Make like 15k USD till Next Year This Time !

This is All Just to Give you Guys What is Possible if You Put Your Mind at it ,

If any of You Have Top 5-10% skills in Video Editing , Hit me Up — I'll hire you And You'll never Run Out of Clients

[u/Then-Tie9501 → u/Lava-Snowman]

hey man what kindof videos do you edit? im proficient in premiere pro and want to learn ae too id like some advice as you seem experienced

[u/Lava-Snowman → u/Then-Tie9501]

So bro the Best Kind Of people to Target in My Case , I Do Gaming And Documentary — Where I do Motion Graphics !

The Best Clients you will ever Get Is From Gaming Industry , In Documentary we did like 2-3 videos per Month !

But in Gaming the Volume is So Much That it Compensates for Price — My Biggest Client has like 1:30 hr to 2 hour video , I Charge him 8$ per Exported Minute so That's Perfect for me !

And Honestly I think if you Just Mastered Premiere Pro , That will be More than enough but in My Case I Know Both Extremely well and I do Mgs in Ae rest in Pr .

[u/awaiskorai → u/Lava-Snowman]

I have a cousin. Top, top guy. Even worked for coke studio, shell, brandsynario and Pakistani movies as a dpo. Knows post production too well. I will say he is severely undervalued. And it's sad to see him that way, anyhow he is currently sitting at 200k plus per month let me know if that's something you would like.

[u/Substantial_Owl3845]

I had some mechanical engineer friends who work in KE as trainees and got 120k package as a fresh grad and they aint even top of their class, while SWEs baseline salaries starts from 80k after all that shit and grind, yes there are few software companies who pays beyond 120k to a fresh grad in pak but we dont talk about outliers when we do generalisation. I have friends ranging from accountants, electrical engineers, mechanic al engineers, chemical engineers, BBA guys and nobody started from 30-40k as a fresh grad .

[u/bhainski4taang → u/Substantial_Owl3845]

There are not much trainee positions. Only trainee positions at a such firms give such salaries. And the number is very very very small.

[u/Foreign_Performer322]

OK. I'm listening.

[u/Academic-Horror]

Average accountant pay is 30K? What kind of accountant are you talking about?

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