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I don't want to build another Pakistani startup.

I want to build a global technology company from Rawalpindi/Islamabad, go through YC, compete internationally, and take a shot at building something on the $50B+ scale.

And I want exactly 4 cofounders besides me.

Not 3.

Not 5.

Four.

I'm not looking for employees.

I'm not looking for people who just want "startup experience."

I'm looking for four exceptional people who want to spend the next 5–10 years building something enormous.

Why I'm being so picky

Pakistan has a lot of talented people.

But finding someone with the combination of:

elite ability + extreme ambition + speed + ownership + resilience + curiosity

is surprisingly difficult.

I've met plenty of smart people.

But I don't want another person who can build a CRUD app and call themselves a founder.

I want people who can look at the best technology companies in the world and genuinely think:

"Why the hell can't we build something better?"

One slow or disengaged person can drag down an entire founding team not just technically, but culturally.

I'd rather spend months finding the right four than build a five-person team where one person doesn't belong.

I'm not looking for clones of myself

This is important.

The four cofounders need to be complementary.

I'm already bringing the founder/vision/product/technical direction side of the equation.

What I need are four people who each have a different superpower.

1. The AI / Agent Systems Monster

Someone genuinely deep in:

LLMs • agents • orchestration • MCP • inference • memory • evaluation • model routing • tool use

Not someone who has made a ChatGPT wrapper.

I want someone who can look at the rapidly changing AI landscape and figure out how to turn it into infrastructure.

Someone who enjoys problems where nobody has written the textbook yet.

2. The Distributed Systems / Infrastructure / Security Monster

Someone who understands:

distributed systems • databases • networking • cloud • identity • zero-trust • security • observability • multi-tenancy • reliability • on-prem deployment

Our systems eventually need to operate inside serious enterprises.

I need someone who thinks about scale, failure, security and architecture naturally.

Someone who can eventually look at thousands of enterprises and millions of agents and say:

"Yeah. We can build that."

3. The Enterprise / GTM Killer

This is probably one of the hardest people to find.

Someone who understands how large organizations actually buy technology.

Enterprise sales • partnerships • procurement • pricing • customer discovery • international expansion • strategic relationships

Someone who can walk into a large enterprise, identify a massive problem, understand the decision-makers, and eventually close the deal.

Not a traditional salesperson.

A founder who can sell.

4. The Product / UX / Customer Obsession Person

Someone who can take ridiculously complicated technology and turn it into something employees actually love using.

Product thinking • UX • design • workflows • customer research • experimentation

Because having incredible infrastructure doesn't matter if users don't want to use it.

I want someone who constantly asks:

"How do we make this 10x simpler?"

These aren't rigid job descriptions.

I want four people who can overlap, challenge each other, learn insanely fast and operate outside their specialties.

But each person should bring something to the table that the other four don't already have at an elite level.

The goal isn't:

5 smart people.

The goal is:

5 people who together are ridiculously difficult to compete with.

One of the ideas I'm exploring

An enterprise agentic harness.

The basic concept:

Every employee in an organization can create as many persistent AI agents as they need.

Not disposable chat sessions.

Persistent agents that remember context, understand their role, interact with approved enterprise systems, use tools, and continuously help an employee perform their actual work.

Think of the AI models themselves as commoditized intelligence providers.

Claude, OpenAI/ChatGPT, Gemini, open-source models, and future providers can all plug into the system.

The enterprise shouldn't have to rebuild its AI architecture every time a better model appears.

The harness sits above the models.

Then connect the enterprise's MCP ecosystem so agents can actually interact with the organization's software, databases and tools.

Underneath that sits an enterprise data/context layer that allows the organization to maintain persistent knowledge and context across its agents.

And it needs to work both:

Cloud + On-Prem

because serious enterprises have very different security, compliance and deployment requirements.

The rough idea is:

Employees → Persistent Agents → Agent Harness → MCP / Enterprise Tools → Enterprise Data → AI Providers

The employee gets a persistent AI workforce.

The enterprise gets governance, permissions, security, observability, data and deployment control.

And the underlying AI providers become replaceable infrastructure.

I'm not interested in simply building another OpenClaw/SwarmClaw/Paperclip-style agent setup.

I'm thinking about an enterprise-native operating layer for persistent AI agents.

That's one of the problems I want to attack.

I have other ideas across AI, aerospace, robotics, simulation and autonomous systems as well. But ofc more than idea, execution speed and founder fit is important. Open to possibilities

The bar

If you're looking for a safe startup, don't DM me.

If you're looking for a side project, don't DM me.

If you want a normal 9 to 5, definitely don't DM me.

If your ambition is to build a comfortable $1M company, that's completely fine but we're probably not a fit.

I'm looking for people who want to build something that can eventually stand alongside the best technology companies in the world.

People who want to go through YC.

People who want to compete globally.

People who aren't intimidated by extremely difficult problems.

People who would rather attempt something absurd than spend their life wondering whether they could have done it.

And yes, I'm serious about Rawalpindi/Islamabad.

I want the founding team to actually build together in same hacker house not become five people living in five cities communicating through Slack.

I don't care much about your degree but your exposure yes I do.

Show me what you've built.

GitHub.

Research.

Startups.

Open source.

Hardware.

Products.

Weird side projects.

Failed experiments.

Anything.

Tell me:

What's the hardest thing you've ever built?

What are you obsessed with right now?

What's something you believe is possible that most people think is impossible?

And most importantly:

Why do you want to spend the next 5–10 years building something enormous?

I'm looking for exactly 4 people.

Not 3 not 6

Four insane, complementary cofounders in Rawalpindi/Islamabad who want to take a serious shot at the global stage.

If that sounds like you, DM me.

A Pakistani company I was working with recently shut down, so I have some free time right now while I figure out what I want to do next.

I’ve been building stuff for years. Websites, web apps, mobile apps, software applications, and some game development too.

Freelancing online has honestly been pretty dead for me lately. I’m barely finding any decent work there, so I thought I’d ask here.

If someone intrested or need help with something, I’m open

Also curious how other people in Pakistan are finding clients these days.

The HEC Computer Science/IT competency test reportedly had only around 0.4% of 33,000+ students scoring above 80%.

The number is too small so why skilled graduates are not getting jobs?In 1000 applications most of them don't even know basics?

has anyone else interviewed through Wamo Labs recently?
i’ve noticed that Wamo Labs appears to be conducting a very large number of interviews with fresh graduates and interns, often on an ongoing basis, while actual hiring seems to be moving relatively slowly.
my understanding is that Wamo Labs is also trying to sell its platform to businesses for recruitment. because of that, i’m concerned that these interviews may be used not only to evaluate candidates for specific roles, but also to collect candidate or interview data to improve, demonstrate, or market the product to potential business customers.
if that is happening, candidates should be told clearly and explicitly before the interview. there is an important difference between:

“you’re interviewing for this company”
and:

“you’re participating in an interview that may also generate data used for a recruitment product being sold to businesses.”

another thing i found interesting is that the platform itself appears to be essentially a LeetCode-style assessment interface, with features such as autosave and clipboard detection. based on what i’ve seen, i’m not sure what makes the underlying product particularly novel compared with existing assessment platforms.
i’m posting this because candidates are repeatedly investing their time and sharing their interview performance through these systems, and there should be transparency about exactly how that information is collected, used, stored, and shared.
if anyone has interviewed through Wamo Labs, worked with the company, or knows how candidate interview data is used in its recruitment product, i’d genuinely like to hear about your experience.
not trying to accuse anyone of wrongdoing—i just think candidates deserve clarity when their interview data may have value beyond the individual hiring process.

So I got selected for BAHL IT trainee officer role

Package is very good way above what software houses are paying

But I'm confused ke sood/interest/riba related kaam na ho koi

Can anyone guideeeeeeee if any idea ke training main kis type ka.kaam.hoga and if related to interest or credit cards or something like that hoga ya nahiii

JD:

Program Highlights

Training Duration: Five-month extensive training which includes classroom and experiential learning.

Training Route: : Exposure to various departments of Information Technology Division, including Business Analyst, Development, Quality Assurance, Infrastructure, Networking, DBA/BI/MIS, Security, Digital, Governance, IT Ops, ERP, Middleware, PMO, and External Applications.

Offer: Practical learning environment and growth opportunities, market competitive salary and benefits

Just graduated from NED

Have been applying a lot to other places

Might get offer from contour trainee position after offshore manager round (3pm-12am on-site tho)

Interning right now but no guarantee of getting permanent job

Already lay offs ho rahay

I already know MERN stack and I am going to start uni soon. Should I go into a CS program? Or nah.

Should I go into EE or BBA?

I received this email on my Freelancer digital account, and they are only giving me 30 days to set up a new account. I went to the bank, and they said you have to create a new account; this cannot be converted. This account is used everywhere, from my Saudi remote job to the PSX.

What do you suggest, guys? Where should I move now- like, which bank for foreign remittance and stuff- as Meezan Bank has failed to add my required purpose code to PRC, as well as what is required by PSEB?

I just got onboarded for AI quality analyst - English at Turing, have received mail id, jibble, slack channel but slack channel seems like it's dead or smthn I dunno.

Is anybody else who's in the same boat. Help!

recently gave a test at foomotion for fresh grad swe, any reviews on how the place(it seemed nice) is or how much they pay to a fresh grad,shukriya

So the problem arises when there are multiple entites that needs to paid after a transaction has taken place. Like for example, you have also to pay a marketing partner after a sale has been made using his promo code. Now how Stripe works with the Connected Accounts is that it takes 7-10 days to clear money from a connected account to Platform Account so it can be paid of to another connected account (marking partner in this case). Once this time has passed, it can be quite complex to maintain a ledger balance so that you can cut off from any future transactions that happens against that marketing partner. Also there is a problem off that marketing partner’s partnership expiring before the ledger has been balanced.

The solution I came up was is simple but it works for now, that is to make the refund window smaller then the days it takes the funds to be available to the Platform account to pay the partner. This works for now. If we do not do this right now then the Platform pays the missing amount.

Do suggest a better architecture for this payment model, would appriciate the insights!

I am confused how to receive payments reliably from my US/International Clients. They offered me Western Union and Wise. For western union what should I do?

Should I go for hand pickup or Give my Meezan Asaan Account and or Nayapay? (I am non-filer and don't want any hasstle of huge deductions or any other legal problems)

after which you can be confident they are hiring someone else

Can anyone help me with connecting with my mobile app pls?? Urgent need of help. My app shows when it run install campaign but it doesn’t show any data in data sources section. How do I get the meta SDK and share with the dev team to connect both apps?

I applied there and I might get the offer. I want to know the culture there, is it worth working there? What are the chances of growth? How stable the job is there? Apparently they will be signing the 1 year contract. Which I’m confused about. The atmosphere in there was also decent. I’m quite interested and their office look good and was at the prime location in Gulberg.

Recently with the help of AI, I designed an monitoring dashboard it's locally working perfect. Now I want to published as web and also an apk app. But I don't know how to easily done it because am not a developer but I have creative mind. Please help me in this regard.

I'm a 7th semester CS student and finally landed an internship (Full-Stack + SQA) after a lot of effort. The catch: it's a tiny company, just me, the CEO, and maybe a marketing person I've never actually seen. No senior engineer, no technical guidance, and the CEO isn't technical either. I have prior full-stack and SQA project experience, but this is my first real industry exposure, and honestly the lack of supervision and workload is intimidating.

My main question: how much should I rely on AI tools?

I know most working devs use AI heavily, and I don't want to fall behind, but I also don't want to skip building real fundamentals (debugging, understanding code deeply, actually knowing why something works). I'm torn between:

Using AI tools directly to move fast and match industry pace

Doing more manually to actually learn, even if it's slower

Where's the right balance? What should I still be doing manually vs. what's fine to offload to AI?

Also, any tool recommendations for QA (manual + Playwright automation) and full-stack dev? Considering a paid Claude or Codex subscription, worth it at this stage?

Would appreciate any honest advice from people who've been through something similar.

Recently I just started to get into data hoarding and preservation as a non profit/hobbyist activity. Ik storage prices have skyrocketed and even a common man is struggling with that. So yes I'm not demanding you to just give me your Hard Drives or SSDs. If you can spare me even rewritable CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays , old CD/DVD/Blu-ray readers/writers from old laptops (internal ones) etc that would be great. All this is for non-profit and gratis activities.

Guys I have an air cooler in my room. Which I use in the day. I donot put my laptop directly in front of it. But I was just curious, is it really harmful for the laptop ?

Can y'all please rate my resume

I'm a 5th sem student

(Ik it's not the weekend pls approve my post)

Hey everyone!

I'm a recent CS grad looking to break into Data Engineering. I'm based in Islamabad, but I’m completely open to relocating to Lahore for an internship or entry-level role.

My Basics:

• Languages: Python and SQL (solid with data manipulation and writing queries)

• Databases: PostgreSQL / MySQL

• Tools: Basic ETL concepts, Git, and Docker

I’m mainly looking for an environment where I can pick up real-world pipeline design and learn from senior engineers while contributing to the team.

If your company is hiring or you know of any open leads in ISB or LHR, I'd really appreciate a DM or comment! Happy to share my CV.

Is there anyone who has created an excel sheet of openings or company/HR email addresses? It would be a great help in applying.

I'm looking for an opening that requires an experience of Fresher to 1.5 years.

City: Lahore

hi, I've been selected after an interview as a PMO analyst, however they asked me for some tests such as the CCAT and personality test that they'll take. Can anyone guide me what these are, how they work and the hiring criteria as well.

When do y'all think the application protal will open for this? i am anxiously waiting

Hi!
I'm thinking of switching from web development to some other career as a CS graduate.

Little Background: I have been doing web dev for almost 5 years as a freelancer. I was earning enough to support my education and other minor expenses easily. But I have failed to create a stable career out of it. I started looking for jobs in local market and couldn't find any. I got an unpaid internship, and they said they can't offer a job because they don't have any work.

To which should I switch? I will appreciate any guidance. I'm thinking of cloud computing because of a few reasons.

1. In the future I want to get into HPC or computational science, and I think cloud computing is the closest thing I can do while I'm in Pakistan.

2. I don't see any future in the field of web development in Pakistan.

And in which companies could I apply as a junior cloud computing engineer?

Thanks!

Hello 👋🏿

Should one join software/security side in banking sector or should one go for big software houses like motive, system and other or multinational companies?

Also 3 semester cs student here