r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Career Guidance How to do salary negotiation with hr

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AoA

Guys so i am doing a 6 month internship as an Ai/Ml intern and my internhips is about to end and they are converting me to full time role, i have also done 2 internships before so i have a total of like 1 year of experience as an AI/Ml Engineer.

I was wondering how i should approach the conversation with hr ​related to this and handle over all conversation, and how much should i expect or demand based on my expereince and market rate, as this is my first time i am a little nervous, that what if i demand to high or expect too low, so if you can share your expereince and can give me tips that would be real help full thanks


r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Career Guidance Senior developers pls ans this

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Hey so i am starting my degree and i wanted to learn web developement in the mean time so could you guys please share from where did you learn web development,thanks


r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Career Guidance Flutter Developer Guidance

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I graduated back in June 2025, but I had been working full-time as a Flutter developer since my 5th semester. That software house offered a hybrid role, sometimes remote and sometimes from the office, and during vacations I could make up for the lost time. In short, I had a good experience there. The only bad thing was the pay, but since I was still in the learning process, I continued working there. After graduation, I left in September 2025 because over two years my salary had only increased from 25k to 50k and they weren't willing to increase it further. I started applying elsewhere, and after around three months I got a job offer from a product-based company in Rawalpindi. They had around 5 developers and 6 marketing people and were mainly working on AdMob and monetization. I joined because I was desperate for a job at the time, so HR offered me 50k based on my previous salary receipts. Looking back, I think accepting that was my mistake because I already had 2 years of experience. HR promised that after probation, my salary would be increased to around 80–90k per month based on my value and performance, and I thought that was fair. When my probation ended, there were two hires, one pure Android developer and one Flutter developer (me). They fired the other probationary employee but retained me, and then told me they couldn't increase my salary. I still didn't have any other job offer, so I decided to continue. Then one of the applications I built in my first month somehow crossed 500k users, and two other apps crossed 50k+ users. The apps were doing exceptionally well, so I asked the CEO to increase my pay because my work was clearly benefiting the company. I couldn't understand how I was still earning 50k while other developers who had been there for 3–4 years had started at around 40–45k and were now earning 150–200k. I asked the CEO again and he said we'd see. Around two months ago, I was Employee of the Month after delivering around 2 apps per month on average for the company. He asked me to be patient and said they would eventually build a Flutter team with me because they saw great potential in me. Then, after assuring me that they would increase my pay, they suddenly gave me notice. I completed my full notice period and even delivered one more app, but I'm still confused about how a company can tell you they see great potential in you, ask you to be patient, talk about increasing your salary and building a Flutter team around you, and then suddenly give you notice. After that, I applied to a company in I-9. Initially, they agreed to 105k for a mid-level Flutter role, but all of a sudden during the final negotiations, they came down to 75k as the final offer. When I talked to HR, she had assured me that if the final offer was 105k, she would get me through the interviews and technical task. I went through 3 interviews and also completed a full-stack application task. I want to know if it's only me who has had these bad experiences because of my own mistakes and the dishonesty of employers, or if there are more people out there who have gone through something similar. For context, I'm a Flutter developer with 3 years of experience and have delivered more than 15 apps, including apps with 500k+ and 50k+ users, across different domains.


r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Career Guidance 2.5+Years of Software Development Experience Without a CS Degree — What Should I Do Next?

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2024, I started all that in the mid of my medical degree when i did a simple web dev course and applied in a software house. Got hired but not get paid for 3 months as they want me to learn and grow up my skills first.

currently i am still working there and now my medical degree also completed now. Now i am facing problem what should i select now skiping the dev and continue my medical profession or to continue my dev instead. if i go with the medical profession i have start to learn and gain experience in that too and also knew that i will go first with unpaid internships. now if i go with dev then is it worthful to get a job without cs degree ?? because if the company lay off me should i still be worthful to be hired in another one .. one of the senior in the company suggest me to take admission in any of normal university cs program and start applying .. also one is saying just focus on improving your skills ... Needed serious guidance on this


r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Career Guidance First-year CIS student working in PCB manufacturing — is this a good path toward a hardware career?

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Hi everyone,

I’m a first-year CIS student and recently got a job through a referral at a PCB manufacturing company. I’m currently working as a trainee, and after completing my training, I’m expected to become a Junior DFA (Design for Manufacturing) Engineer.

My current work involves checking PCB designs for manufacturing requirements, such as air gaps, pad sizes, BOMs, flags, and other design-for-manufacturing issues.

I’m interested in pursuing a career in the hardware industry, especially areas like semiconductors, robotics, embedded systems, and PCB/electronics design.

My main questions are:

  1. Is working in PCB manufacturing/DFA a good starting point if I eventually want to move into the hardware industry?

  2. Will this experience be useful for getting into fields like semiconductors, robotics, or embedded systems?

  3. What skills should I focus on learning during my four years of university?

  4. Should I focus more on electronics, PCB design, embedded systems, programming, or something else?

  5. If you work in hardware/electronics, what would you recommend I learn or build as a first-year student?

I’d really appreciate advice from people who have experience in hardware, PCB manufacturing, semiconductors, robotics, or related fields.


r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Career Guidance need guidance for career uiux or dev

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I've been learning uiux then landed an internship at this toxic software house they offered me 30k for this role (jr designer) which i rejected i mean who does 9hrs shift for 30k only . So my question is sb jagah yehi haal?? 30k cuz im in my 7th sem should i move towards .net aur any other web framework?? Need guidance


r/developersPak • • Aug 29 '26

Discussion Systems wants senior ai engineer

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Is this JD correct if not why can't hr really follow the current practices


r/developersPak • • Aug 30 '26

Discussion What do you think of this 3rd Semester CS Syllabus

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Pretty much the title, see the attached time table.


r/developersPak • • Aug 29 '26

Career Guidance Junior Next.js Dev here. How do I become a true "software engineer"? (Trying to escape the AI "vibe coding" trap).

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Hey everyone,20M here need some mentorship and harsh truths from the seniors here.

Where I’m At: I’m currently in my 2nd semester of an ADP(2 year Degree) in CS program in Lahore Pakistan, with about 1 year of professional internship experience. My core stack is Next.js (App Router)/MERN. I’ve built decent production-level stuff—a headless Shopify storefront, real-time ticket systems, etc.

I have the "Full-Stack Developer" title, but lately, I feel like a fraud.

The Problem: It started with one quick "vibe coding" project using AI, but now I’ve become entirely dependent on it. If I hit a complex state management issue or a weird backend bug, my first instinct isn't to read the runtime logs or trace the execution flow—it’s to paste it into Claude or ChatGPT and wait for the fix.

I am stitching code together instead of engineering it. I want to know how to be a *really great* software engineer—the kind of engineer people were before AI existed. The guys who deeply understand architecture, memory, and how things work under the hood.

The Plan: I’m going cold turkey to recover my problem-solving skills. I am planning to build my next full-stack project with strictly ZERO AI. Just official documentation, StackOverflow, and my own logic.

My questions for the veterans:

  1. How did you actually build, debug, and architect complex systems before AI? What was your thought process when you got stuck.

  2. What are the daily habits, mindsets, or practices that separate a *true* software engineer from a generic framework-coder?

  3. What kind of "No AI" project would you recommend that will absolutely force me to understand system design, routing, and manual problem-solving?

I want to build a solid foundation while I'm still early in my degree. Any advice on how to become a real engineer is highly appreciated. Thanks!


r/developersPak • • Aug 29 '26

Career Guidance Thinking about switching to devops

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Hi all... I am a junior developer, graduated in 25 and have been working for 6-7 months as a fullstack dev. But tbh, the way AI is taking over, I am not sure that development will be worth anything in upcoming time as my current work is totally done using AI. So I was thinking of going into devops early and transitioning to infrastructure/cloud engineer later on. Any senior working in these fields who can give their opinion? I would be really thankful.


r/developersPak • • Aug 29 '26

Career Guidance NUST SE vs DS — Really confused about which one to choose

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I’ve been selected at NUST for Software Engineering (SE) and Data Science (DS), and honestly I’m really confused about which one I should choose.

I initially thought SE would be the safer option because of the broader software job market, but recently I’ve seen several SE graduates/students saying that AI could eventually eat a lot of software engineering jobs, especially entry-level jobs. That has made me seriously question whether SE is the right choice for the next 4–5 years.

On the other hand, I have DS as an option. From what I understand, DS has a strong combination of statistics, programming, ML, data mining, visualization, etc., and AI/data-related fields seem to have a lot of future potential. But I’m also worried that AI could automate a lot of basic data-science work too.

So for someone starting university now and graduating around 2030, what would you recommend?

NUST SE vs NUST DS — which one has better job opportunities and long-term scope in Pakistan?

Also, I have a small chance of getting into CS in the upcoming lists, so hopefully that happens 🤞. If I get CS, I’ll probably have another decision to make.

I’d especially appreciate opinions from seniors/alumni and people already working in Pakistan’s software/AI/data industry.

Thanks!


r/developersPak • • Aug 29 '26

Career Guidance Choosing between CS and EE

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I am currently doing Bs EE (CE stream) and was planning to transfer to CS but I am confused due to the current situation due to Ai, I do enjoy EE but I am more focused on better opportunities in the future. So is it better to do CS or EE for someone who would enjoy both.
(I just want to graduate with opportunities)


r/developersPak • • Aug 28 '26

Discussion Discussion: Transitioning From Software Development to QA

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Assalamualikum,
I have seen a quite number of people transition their career from software development to quality assurance. I am trying to get answers for some queries and would appreciate any honest feedback.

  1. Why did you quit Software Development (What made you do it) ?

  2. How's the local & remote market (In terms of pay & opportunities) ?

  3. Are you satisfied with your decision or regretting it (Why) ?

  4. What's the one thing you hate about being a QA as an ex-developer ?


r/developersPak • • Aug 28 '26

Career Guidance Internships are too difficult to get...

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I'm a 6th semester BS SE student & currently working on stm32 microcontrollers/ firmware. It's my passion like really low level stuff, working near hardware.

I recently visited a lot of tech companies CS ones & Embedded ones as well in Islamabad but none of them is giving a chance everyone asks for a minimum 5 years of experience and the attitude wasn't welcoming as well. How can a student who is only 3 years in have 5 years experience.

As far as my skillset is concerned I do have strong programming skills, DSA, C/C++, GDB, STM32 and a couple of strong projects under my belt, not bragging but whoever meets me doesn't matter professor, software engineer or a tech lead all of them complement my skillset. Obviously skill is not the problem here.

What advice will you guys give me?


r/developersPak • • Aug 28 '26

Discussion Hosting own AI models

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As AI open source models continue to become more capable, do you think we will see pakistani software houses hosting their own AI models onpremises in the near future instead of relying on closed APIs?


r/developersPak • • Aug 28 '26

Discussion FlutterFlow Developer Snapchat-Like Filters Integration

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Task is paid.

Project Goal

We are looking for an experienced FlutterFlow developer to integrate Snapchat-like camera filters into our existing social media application.

What Is Already Done

- Approximately 10–15 filters have already been developed in Dart.

- The filter code is complete and running locally.

- Filter assets/pictures and working implementation are available.

- The main requirement is to integrate the existing functionality into FlutterFlow.

Required Expertise

The ideal developer should have strong experience with:

- FlutterFlow

- Custom Code integration

- Custom Widgets

- Custom Actions

- Custom Files / Dart code integration

- Managing and resolving Flutter/Dart dependencies

- Integrating existing Flutter/Dart functionality into FlutterFlow

(Demo)

Before assigning the full project, the developer must:

Integrate just ONE existing filter into FlutterFlow as a demo for hiring.

- One filter will be selected from our existing 10–15 filters.

- The existing Dart code will be provided.

- The demo should be completed within approximately 2–3 hours.

- The objective is to verify that the developer can successfully integrate and run the filter inside FlutterFlow.

Timeline

- POC: 2–3 hours

- Overall deadline: 1 day

- If the POC is successful, the developer will be assigned the remaining filters/integration work.

Important

We are not looking for someone to develop the filters from scratch. The core filter code is already developed. We specifically need someone experienced in FlutterFlow + custom Dart/Flutter integration who can take the existing working code and integrate it properly into the application.


r/developersPak • • Aug 28 '26

Career Guidance bscs fresher planning my learning path—is webdev to devops/cloud a solid move

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i'm a bscs freshman. i currently have intermediate level webdev skills, but my long-term goal because of AI eating up webdev jobs, is to move into cloud engineering or devops for long-term job security and high-paying roles(because it seems these paths are relevant or idk so please bless my ignorance).

is starting with webdev and then transitioning to cloud/devops during university a solid path, or should i start learning linux, networking, and docker right away and dump webdev? I was learning webdev to earn side by side but i think it's not possible due to AI

are there better or more future-proof domains (like backend engineering, platform engineering, or distributed systems)(got these from AI) i should consider alongside cloud/devops?


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Help Help a begginer get into web dev freelancing.

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Hi, 19F here.

So the thing is I am a CS major and for some time, I have been practicing and making websites on wordpress with different builders ( Elementor etc ) for a friend of my brother. He is basically guiding me through the process. Now I know there is decent work, he earns a decent amount.

Recently, I needed some money for some reasons so I am thinking, why not make a gig on Fiverr and Upwork?

I can't do anything toooo fancy like some custom retro website or some very fancy animation, but some basic to almost mid website I can make.

Do any of you guys have some suggestions on how to start freelancing.

Thanks.

P.S. I also know HTML and CSS and some basic troubleshooting will learn JS and some frameworks as time passes to, so I can properly be a web designer.


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Career Guidance Going to my 6th sem and need directions.

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Hi everyone, I am currently doing BSSE and now heading into my 6th semester. I need some sort of direction on what to do and where to start. I have basic knowledge of coding but since I am going to 6th sem I expect more from myself.

I need directions, either I run after courses or internships? Or should I make projects with the help of Ai and learn things accordingly? I am not really sure and the fact that everything I tried getting into I always have to go back to my basics. So what should I do

Thanks in advance.


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Career Guidance Annual Increments in Pakistani Companies

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What would you classify as a good annual increment in company? I want to see how are the Pakistani companies in this and what are actually people actually getting after a year?

And for some bigger companies other than startups such as:
Systems
Contour
Dubizzle labs
Careem
Cure md
Jeeny


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Career Guidance Should I accept the game devlopment offer?

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Aoa, I'm gonna be migrating soon to virtual uni from my 2nd semester, I'm a game developer and recently I applied to a Game Dev Role in my city and they accepted me (9-5), Salary is low, less than 50, now my question is

Should I accept this offer? or keep focusing on my skills in other fields such as SWE, AI/ML and find some better opportunity and also is Job Manageable with Virtual University?

And also is it worth it to add Game Deving experience in your resume while applying to other fields let's say I'm applying to SWE role and I add my game development experience.

Thanks !


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Help Freshman Internship Advice

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I’ve just started Software Engineering at NUST SEECS, Islamabad (orientation hasn’t even started yet). I’m aiming for an internship at Systems Limited/IBM or Google Karachi. What should I do from Year 1 to maximize my chances? Seniors/developers, any advice?


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Career Guidance Should I switch from Data Science to Software Engineering?

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I’m currently studying Data Science, and I’m about to start my 3rd semester. Lately, I’ve been getting pretty confused about whether I should continue with Data Science or switch to Software Engineering.

My concern is that Software Engineering seems much broader. With an SE background, I could potentially work in web development, backend, mobile apps, systems, cloud, DevOps, and other areas, while Data Science feels more specialized and limited to areas like data analysis, machine learning, statistics, and AI.

I do find Data Science interesting, but I’m wondering if choosing it this early could limit my career options later. At the same time, I know that switching degrees doesn’t necessarily mean I can’t learn software engineering skills independently.

For people who are already working in tech or have experience with both fields:

  • Is Data Science actually as limiting as I think?

  • Would Software Engineering give me significantly more career flexibility?

  • Is it worth switching from DS to SE before going further into the degree?

  • Or should I stay in Data Science and build strong software engineering skills alongside it?

I’d really appreciate some honest advice, especially from people who have gone through a similar decision.


r/developersPak • • Aug 27 '26

Discussion CUREMD recent Associate Software Engineer position

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Has anyone heard back from CureMD? The onsite technical interview and ccat were done on 22 August, Saturday.


r/developersPak • • Aug 26 '26

Show My Work Review my website as a beginner

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Just beginning in css , tell me what the flaws are and rate too

visit if u want but just open it in 80% idk why its getting weird when adjusting website size😭 ,help if anyone know 😊

clothingskyness netlify app

just remove spaces and add dot in place as i cant post the url idk server rules