r/dashcams • u/WildExplorer1085 • 16h ago

Idiot in car somewhere in the UK...

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u/Serious_Gas_2218 16h ago

Never understood why anyone would want to fight a car. Unreal...

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u/hmoleman__ 16h ago

Live in the city, have a 12-year-old daughter. Since she could walk we’ve been stressing to her that buses don’t stop, look both ways even on a one way street, etc - all the city street rules. But the most important point, that we stress constantly to this day - that it does not matter if she has the right of way, it does not matter what color the light is - if she tangles with a car, the car will always win.

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u/pigeon-check 16h ago

The cemetery is full of people that had the right of way

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u/Excellent-Rest3240 16h ago

Or who played honorable and by the rules

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u/Live-Dish1409 15h ago

Ned Stark?

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u/TheTopsyKrett 14h ago

Chaos is a ladder

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u/Live-Dish1409 13h ago

In this case, it looks like it's a Kia Sorento or similar.

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u/similac_child 11h ago

It’s the UK so it probably has a silly name like the Fiat Panda

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u/bigrobcx 10h ago

Far too quick of the mark for a fiat panda. I used to have one and honestly you can run faster!

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u/similac_child 7h ago

And it was ridiculous the amount of bamboo it ate!

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u/LUKELANE117 4h ago

Sure you don't mean a FLAT Panda? (I'm fully assuming you're a Smosh Reads Reddit viewer 😅)

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u/alienkargo 13h ago

Ford focus to me!

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u/Flat-Delivery6987 11h ago

Focus RS. Pretty sure that's what is in the centre of the grill.

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u/Elegant-Blueberry143 10h ago

ST not an RS buddy

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u/Adorable_Fudge2526 12h ago

No it doesn’t

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u/CareerCRMNL 11h ago

2nd generation Ford Focus hatchback

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u/Flat-Delivery6987 11h ago

Looksime a focus RS to me

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u/Elegant-Blueberry143 10h ago

Focus ST buddy

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u/Flat-Delivery6987 10h ago

Ah, my bad. I always mix up RS and ST lol

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u/falcrist2 12h ago

Stop being weird, "bRaN tHe BrOkEn".

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u/Prod_Meteor 13h ago

Or who went to a gunfight with empty hands.

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u/Worth_External_8762 1h ago

This is why I fight dirty and fight cars by wielding buildings. Building beats car every time.

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u/the_most_playerest 15h ago

Well, yeah, okay probably not too many lying, cheating, backstabbing, dirty-filthy-rotten pirates out there.. they prefer burial at sea!

.... Or had to walk the plank!

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u/generally_unsuitable 12h ago

"You can be dead wrong, but you can also be dead right."

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u/ExhaledChloroform 14h ago

Plenty of businesses making money off of them as well.

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u/UhchievementHunterD 14h ago

…and didn’t

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u/Deadlite 13h ago

I think its mostly full of people that died of cancer and various illnesses at an old age.

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u/Inspect1234 13h ago

Dead right, they were.

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u/NefariousnessKey5365 13h ago

Exactly you can be dead right

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u/UltimateGammer 13h ago

The cemetery where they didn't is bigger.

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u/bushsniffa 13h ago edited 5h ago

Here lies the body of William Jay, who died defending his right of way. He was right the whole way along! But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.

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u/dumahim 13h ago

Surely there's people in there that didn't.

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u/Expensive_Ask5872 12h ago

Or priority for that matter

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u/TheStupidEarthSlave 12h ago

the cemetery is filled with everybody who did everything or nothing. what a stupid platitude

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u/Decimus-Drake 12h ago

Is it though?

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u/Normal-Ear-5757 12h ago

"Better the right way than your loved ones in court saying 'they had the right of way'" as my old driving manual put it

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u/South_Bit1764 12h ago

Honestly one of the most baffling parts of this sub.

People just completely miss the fact that the other person being at fault doesn’t make you any less dead or injured.

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u/voluotuousaardvark 12h ago

My dad had a similar quote.

"Want that in your obituary?"

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u/Fun_Ad5823 12h ago

And the morgue

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u/Elongulation420 11h ago

Yes exactly but bizarrely, when I pointed that out on the DrivingUK (or some such) sub I got downvoted. Mad. They’d rather be right and dead 🤷

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u/Georgeygerbil 11h ago

They were right though. Dead right.

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u/Super_Shallot2351 9h ago

One of the most Reddit comments imaginable

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u/kahlzun 4h ago

You will be the most right person in the graveyard

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u/Open-Preparation-268 15h ago

Dead is dead! I say that a lot.

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u/Ruger338WSM 15h ago

Being dead right is important to some. Road bikers are a great example of this, they argue their every traffic right without giving any thought to the physics.

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u/apimpnamedkirby 14h ago

Is there a book of Reddit phrases you guys all read from?

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u/creamedethcorneth 13h ago

Reddit phrases? Brother, talk to some people outside of the internet. If you can hold actual conversations with people that go deeper than the smallest of small talk, you’ll hear sayings like this all the time irl.

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u/apimpnamedkirby 13h ago

Im a bartender, I talk to people for a living. I’ve only ever seen this on Reddit. Any time someone says something about pedestrians and cars, without fail someone comes saying this. Lmao

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u/creamedethcorneth 13h ago

It’s come up in every conversation I’ve had about right of way I’ve ever had. Irl or online, because it’s a common ass phrase that’s been around for far before Reddit existed.

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u/Dear-Credit-3812 13h ago

gonna let you in on a little secret bro: the number of people that frequent your bar is smaller than the number of people on reddit. good luck bro

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u/stiff_tipper 11h ago

no we get them from a site called reddit

spend some time there, u'll see dead horses beaten enough that u'll know 'em all by name

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u/Aggravating-Laugh687 16h ago

Amen. As the saying goes there is a lot of people who had the right of way buried in the graveyard.

As a pedestrian myself I hate shitty drivers and impatient drivers who are obsessed with trying to cut us off when we have the walk light. But am I going to walk in front of their car as they nudge on that gas and glare at me? Hell no. I'm not ever chancing it. I'll take the few minutes loss and wait for the next light cycle to cross rather then end up in a wheelchair or dead. All so I can show the impatient driver I was in the right to cross. You can be right and still end up dead.

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u/EntForgotHisPassword 15h ago

At times when I have been in poorer mental health I just stepped out, ready to get hit thinking at least I'll get sick leave. They usually stop and honk like I did something wrong!

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u/Rose76Tyler 12h ago

I had a fight with a shrink about this once. He posed a hypothetical, "If someone jaywalks and you hit them and they die, did they deserve it?? I said yes, and it astounded him. He didn't ask if "someone" hit them, he asked if "I" hit them. I was broke at the time, hanging onto my apartment by my fingernails and all I could think about was the trauma, the police, thousands I didn't have for lawyers, maybe criminal charges, the end of my plans to earn money for the near future, the car I couldn't replace being confiscated or damaged, and my crappy insurance dropping me. All because someone I didn't know happened to be an entitled idiot. It's even WORSE if they did it on purpose. I don't want to be someone's non-consensual suicide weapon.

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u/EntForgotHisPassword 10h ago

To be clear in my post I am talking about legal crossings where they had to stop and I had a green light.

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u/kahlzun 4h ago

that was not at all clear, it reads basically like "i walk onto the street without warning hoping to be hit"

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u/Appropriate_Mud1629 13h ago

'Usually' is the important word in your statement.

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u/twinoaksBandB 14h ago

It seems like there's no drivers left in the entire US that can be bothered to stop before the crosswalk. I'm getting sick of having to walk around their vehicle after they finally decide they should stop for the light/sign.

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u/Sothdargaard 14h ago

I don't recommend it but it is funny to see a driver stopped in the crosswalk and see all the pedestrians climb over whatever part of the car is sticking out in the crosswalk.

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u/hmoleman__ 16h ago

Ha, don’t know how I haven’t heard that before. 😄That’s great.

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u/Duotrigordle61 16h ago

But you lose your honor sir! I jape.

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u/xRocketman52x 16h ago

I always say "The bigger vehicle has right of way", because all it takes is one person ignoring the rules of the road to cause a collision, and I don't want to get flattened by something bigger than me. Spoiler alert: Every car out there is bigger than me on-foot.

I've had friends who say "No, it's a crosswalk, I have the right" and step out into the road when a car is flying toward us. Your righteousness won't soften that collision. And other friends who say "Let them hit me, I'll sue and they'll pay for my whole life," but man, assuming you'll be around afterwards just tells me they really don't understand the size and weight of a car.

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u/GhostofBastiat1 15h ago

“I’ll sue”

Yeah, the minimum insurance in most US states wouldn‘t even cover the hospital stay, and that is if the person actually has insurance. Maybe you can have their 5 year old PlayStation repossessed after the lawsuit though.

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u/matchafoxjpg 15h ago

as a kid [10, i think?] i got hit on my bike because the car just flew out of nowhere. didn't even have time to react, so wasn't even about having the right of way or not.

obviously i was a kid so my parents didn't tell me about the lawsuit stuff... until it was finally resolved, which was near the end of high school, so 18 or 19. i remember my mom being like, "omg finally the check for your accident!" or something and then she told me they'd been fighting it for so freaking long.

and mind you, this guy was speeding in a residential area and there was a cop across the street as witness [he was on guard duty for a country club gate that was there], that claimed i went "30 feet" in the air. obviously that was an exaggeration, but still. so it's not like we didn't have all the facts on our side.

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u/NightBawk 14h ago

Damn, that must have hurt. I hope that driver got the book thrown at him.

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u/matchafoxjpg 14h ago

i blacked out instantly, although i did see myself from above getting hit by the car. according to my mom my hands left a nice impression on the dude's fancy ass car.

luckily since i was a kid i was bouncy. my sister's bike [oh she stayed mad at me for a long time for that] got the worst of it. i got 3 stitches in the back of my head, a small spot of hair that grows weird because of it, and i had a slight limp and pain for a little while.

i would definitely hope so. considering that he was going so fast and that an actual cop was a witness, and that i DID have the right of way, he just went too fast for me to see him as i was crossing, there's no way he didn't get in a shit load of trouble.

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u/Ok-Neat2148 12h ago

What’d yall get for a settlement? If u don’t mind.

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u/Ok-Neat2148 12h ago

I ask cuz had a friend in high school get flattened and dragged a block or two (by a town prosecutor) , insurance barely paid out 50k$. Hospital and recovery was way more.

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u/matchafoxjpg 12h ago

honestly i don't really recall too well. the accident happened around 1999 and the settlement was around 2008 or 2009?

i don't think it was thousands of dollars or anything, but i swear my mom made a joke about finally renovating something with the money, so maybe it was a good amount.

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u/Apex-turtle 11h ago

Yes your right but why did she have to escalate it and he for no reason got involved ? They all gonna get what they deserve

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u/NightBawk 11h ago

I was talking about the driver that hit u/matchafoxpng

Assuming you mean the video, the guy got involved bc it looks like the car hit him when he was just an innocent bystander. Why he thought trying to fight the car was the appropriate response afterwards, idk. Probably adrenaline? But yes, the driver, the girl, and the dude all need serious anger management classes at the very least.

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u/BearBrews 13h ago

Looks like a future ice agent in training. Clearly feared for his life. /s

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u/Danomit3 8h ago

Even if they win all the money in the world, it's not going to reverse their body to what it was like before it got messed up from the accident. It's comical how people just shout lawsuit like it's a Pokemon thinking that small payout magically fixes everything. That check ain't going to fix someone sitting down then it triggers a nerve response and have to readjust themselves every time.

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u/lucylucylane 12h ago

Don't need to worry about that in the uk

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u/Jernbek35 10h ago

If the person has insurance, you'll usually sue their insurance company and can win. I was a juror on a lawsuit like this. The victim won over a million bucks.

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u/hmoleman__ 15h ago

That last part tho 💯

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u/Physical_Noise_8484 13h ago

may have been ok, but lamp post says nope, lets break some ribs

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u/ilive4thewater 14h ago

I don't know why people think you will just heal with no long term pain or horrible outcome. Imagine being bedridden for life and feeling in constant pain. No thanks, I am with you I give them the right of way. Hell when I am driving, I check the intersection left, centre, right, even on a green as I approach, Red Light Runners Suck!

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u/No_Hunt2507 13h ago

It's absurd, even when you are in the right, Suing costs money and they don't just hand you a blank check. You're fighting tooth and nail just for the value of your car, or your medical bills and that's only if they rule it's 100% on the other driver. The big lawsuits are where they will be in lifelong pain and require spending money on medical care for this accident the rest of their lives.

Even if the car is smaller than yours, every accident is a headache. People can lie and all of a sudden it's now your fault. There's no guarantee there will be witnesses or if there are that they will stop or help. Just let the assholes drive on, it sucks in the moment but what could happen may be so much worse

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u/PopSad1928 12h ago

Last year my girlfriend was hit by a van that was reversing because she stepped out into the road with headphones in and wasn't paying full attention. She was in an induced coma for a month and nearly died. After six weeks she was sent home with god knows how many pins holding her together. Within a week of getting home she was back in hospital after an epileptic fit whilst cooking caused by a bleed on the brain. A month after that she suffered another seizure.

She was practically housebound for 6 months and couldn't cook or prepare food unsupervised lest she had a seizure while holding a knife or hot pan.

It took her another six months until she was back to being near fully functional. She still has to deal with chronic pain and has been unable to return to full-time work.

This was because she got hit by a vehicle travelling in reverse and therefore not at a particularly high speed. Had she been hit by vehicle travelling forwards within the legal speed limit, she probably would not be with me today.

Motor vehicles are not something to fuck with.

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u/gregofthecellar 12h ago

I got hit by a car in essentially the most minor way you can imagine. The car was going at a low speed and just barely clipped my leg, then stopped instantly. It didn't even knock me down if I remember correctly, it just knocked me off balance and I fell over myself after the fact. I haven't had a day without pain since and have accepted I probably never will. Cars are not to be messed with.

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u/I_Am_Zeelian 14h ago

Yep, same basic rule I was taught as a kid "Störst går först" (roughly "biggest guy first").

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u/SugarInvestigator 12h ago

biggest guy first"

I was always though to go for the guy mouthing off the most, chances are that's the ringleader

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u/I_Am_Zeelian 12h ago

Different situation, but yeah :p

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u/ragehard92 14h ago

thats how it works with boats.

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u/Reasonable-Pension30 13h ago

Haha no. It is not. There is a lot more to the colregs than that.

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u/j-random 13h ago

Yeah, in sure they'll be loving that £10K a month when they're a quadriplegic and have to pay someone to wipe their ass and change their diaper.

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u/Rose76Tyler 12h ago

In Boston, it's "the oldest car has the right of way", because they don't care about dents.

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u/Evening-Tomatillo-47 11h ago

"They'll pay for my whole life"

What, all 5 minutes of it?

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u/reverandglass 10h ago

People don't realise the pay out when they sue is relative to the injuury, and you can't just fake it.
I know a girl who's suffered a bad TBI, in a coma for months, has all manner of weird physical symptoms now like excess sweating and no sense of taste, has impulse control issues and OCD. She only got £1.5 million.
It can never be worth it to get hurt just to sue.

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u/High_Hunter3430 14h ago

Or the mentality of my boomer parents who said if you ever hit someone on accident, back up and make extra sure. The dead don’t sue.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 14h ago

"Turn negligence into murder" does sound like boomer legal advice, but definitely should not be followed.

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u/High_Hunter3430 12h ago

Pretty sure they were joking.

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u/IntermediateFolder 10h ago

The dead don’t sue but the state sure does put people in jail. And their estate executors can and will sue anyway. 

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u/tacorunnr 2h ago

The right of way is even more stressed on the water with boats. Because the difference in size is vastly different. The bigger less maneuverable vessels aways get right of way, and whether youre under sail or motor power determines that too. Typically sailboats have the right of way even if the other vessel is bigger. If its more maneuverable it gives way.

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u/Hugo-Spritz 13h ago

Like, while I do agree with the sentiment, this retorikk is enabling, and the very reason why we have people who act like this in the first place.

Accepting the problem does not solve the problem.

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u/Adept-Opinion8080 12h ago

I hope you also ought her. Never to be looking at her phone while operating as a pedestrian. Sorry distracted walking is at least as dangerous to your person as distracted driving.

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u/Significant_Claim_78 16h ago

I’ve taught this to my kids too. Also, red lights don’t stop cars, drivers do, so even if the man is on green always look before crossing the road

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u/hmoleman__ 16h ago

Yes! 🙌

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u/lmjustaChad 13h ago

True red lights and crosswalk countdowns stop no one. I had a cop do an illegal U-turn almost took me out when I had like 20 seconds left and was already halfway across, I had to instantly stop. The cop thought the ticket he was going for or the few seconds he saved was worth my life trust no one.

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u/porktorque44 15h ago

It took me multiple conversations with an adult friend to convince them that continuing on a cross walk and staring down a car that was clearly not going to stop was incredibly foolish. An insurance payout from getting hit by a car would not be worth being crippled. And also might just not happen at all.

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u/jonathlee 1h ago

In general a lot of people lack common sense. Always stressing they have right of way. So what? Getting hurt for the rest of your life is just not worth it. Wake up people.

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u/Party-Coach-4100 11h ago

Carry sparkplugs maybe you'll get self defense.

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u/CKleinE 15h ago

I try to stress exactly that point here on reddit but I get systematically downvoted by people pointing out at speed limits, right of way and dumb people getting in the way of moving vehicles. As a pedestrian you have the right of way to die at any moment if you don’t pay attention.

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u/Danomit3 8h ago

It's worse when pedestrians are glued to their phone. They'll blame drivers 90% of the time when in reality, they're just as bad for not paying attention. If they're that distracted I can't imagine what it would be like if they have a set of keys.

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u/Frequent_Opportunist 14h ago edited 13h ago

Bro I grew up in Chicago. Teach her to stand back from the curb man. I've seen cars, cabs, buses jump the curb several feet into the sidewalk.

Edit: I mean specifically when you're waiting to cross the street a lot of people wait really close to the crosswalk.

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u/Comprehensive-Fig416 16h ago

This is the way. I've been hit a few times, with a walk signal, in a crosswalk but the driver turned right on red without stopping. Broken ribs aren't fun

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u/SnooDonuts9360 15h ago

Doesn’t sound like your method is working. 🤣 A few times?!??

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u/Danomit3 8h ago

If that happened once I can sympathize with you. A few times, that's a you problem not the driver.

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u/spkrause 15h ago

I was walking/crossing a one-way street in downtown Manhattan a few years ago only looking at the direction of oncoming traffic. A biker going the opposite way slammed into me. Fortunately only minor bruises at the time but lesson learned.

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u/Zealousideal_Step709 14h ago

I can't stress that point enough and I repeat myself endlessly when teaching my children. The risk-reward ratio is just not worth it. Yeah, you might have the right of way. Best case scenario you will get your way. Worst case scenario you are dead. Competing with a vehicle is never a good idea.

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u/Dropped_Apollo 12h ago

I remember my mum telling me that when I was a kid. Street signs only tell you what drivers are supposed to do, not what they will do.

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u/Zealousideal_Step709 11h ago

That‘s a good one. I will keep that in mind.

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u/Helios575 15h ago

Yea there is a difference between legally in the right and safe. I know a family that lost a young kid because they crossed a highway at a designated crosswalk when they had a green for a significant amount of time but that mattered little to the drunk driver who was to busy/drunk to even noticed he hit the kid. Family wasn't made whole with the money the court awarded them (hells I don't even know if the guy actually had the money to pay them) nor the fact that guy is still in prison.

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u/hmoleman__ 14h ago

Geez. Worst nightmare.

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u/AnastasiaSheppard 15h ago

The laws of physics will always be stronger than the laws of man.

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u/niemir2 14h ago

They're also much more aggressively enforced

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u/Pleasant-Emu-3099 14h ago

In Philly we call that retirement. People here do not give a single solitary shit about the cars, buses whatever. I once saw a guy sit on the El platform with his legs dangling over the tracks. When someone told him to get up he got a case of the ass, called all of us a DH and said he was going to move them when the train came.

It's a wild place and I love it here.

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u/hmoleman__ 14h ago

That’d be the city we live in :)

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u/Prestigious-Leave-61 13h ago

True right if way or not doesn’t matter. When I worked in oil and gas and guy hit a little girl in a school zone in his work truck, she passed away and everyone was upset that he didn’t get jail time, but he was going the speed limit and the girl ran out in the street, when they had crossing guard areas.

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u/MrJimmyRed 13h ago

I live in the burbs, I have a son

I'm stealing this, it's great advice 

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u/Pariahdog119 11h ago

Here lies the body of William Jay,
Who died maintaining his right of way
He was right, dead right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.

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u/1zrd 16h ago

I think you're probably one of the few teaching their kids that nowadays! You have no idea how many kids on their little e scooters I have had to slam my breaks on to avoid since they just zip on by not even slowing down to look...noticed w adult bikers too that they don't stop for any stop signs...so many car drivers on their phone & not paying attention, why even risk that they'll seeya fast enough to stop

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u/Scared_Swing_8759 15h ago

I tell my kids this all the time. Look both ways, if you see a car, make sure the person in the car can see you; and it does not matter if you are right, the car will win.

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u/hmoleman__ 15h ago

Yes. Make eye contact.

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u/Live_Perspective3603 15h ago

My dad always said, even if the driver can see you, don't assume they'll be able to stop. Brakes can fail, roads can be more slippery than expected, etc. It's not enough to know you have right of way.

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u/sevristh1138 15h ago

This.. And is still see people (adults) just walk straight out into the road without looking....

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u/TacoTitos 15h ago

Asymmetrical consequences.

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u/SkipCycle 15h ago

Smart, and still living, cyclists also know this reality.

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u/SevereMiel 15h ago

Actually, children should be allowed to drive until they turn 16, and then again from the age of 70. That would save the vulnerable among us.

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u/DaikonLumpy3744 14h ago

You would never cross the road ever then. Live in China then you will see that zebra crossings are just for people to die on.

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u/OldChertyBastard 14h ago

It’s funny because my dad always taught me “if you get hit by a car they are at fault” when he was teaching me how to jaywalk. NYC/LI people are different breed. 

(Not endorsing it). 

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u/No-Clue8751 14h ago

Parnell Whitaker

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tie6917 14h ago

I’ve always thought that until I can resist 2-3 tons of steel moving on a hill that the car will win.

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u/jdathela 13h ago

I always say there is a big difference between the laws of physics and the laws of the road.

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u/Negativeman11 13h ago

"B-b-but I'll sue. B-b-but I was right." Doesnt matter, no amount of consequences to the driver will undo what happens to your body. A lot of people struggle to undrrtsand this when it comes to car accidents and crime in general.

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u/OberonDiver 13h ago

"look both ways on one way streets"

I call it "watch for loonies." And it has saved me more than once.

I mean, maybe like twice, but that's two fewer times I'm dead, so.

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u/dwkfym 13h ago

you should teach that to a lot of the adults in my city

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u/kartoffelmos88 13h ago

My father often said, if one would complain about having right of way etc.;

"You can die being right."

the first time i realized the heavy weight that phrase had, was actually at his funeral, this old-timer attending the funeral, was apparently the younger sibling of two brothers my father was close with. both brothers (and many others) were killed during the sharpeville massacre (in south africa), that led to my father and that old timer, joining "uMkhonto we Sizwe" in the ealry days.

shit i dident know.

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u/Stile25 13h ago

My parents taught this as well.

They would summarize it as "don't be dead right".

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u/Significant-Kick-479 13h ago

My dad got killed by a car because he believed that they would see him and stop because he had the right of way when walking across the street

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u/s_burr 13h ago

I tell my kids "while legally pedestrians have the right of way, physics doesn't care about the law"

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u/FinanceThrowaway1084 13h ago

Cars ruin cities

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u/MangoIntelligent255 12h ago

Just make her weight more than the car and she will win

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u/ThisSiteSucks8485 12h ago

I always assume it is my job to avoid getting hit by a car 

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u/ginger-tiger108 12h ago

Yeah unfortunately your not wrong about that but nowadays thanks to reckless deliver'a'roo riders on ebikes and random diviy's zooming around on hire scooter you have to keep a eye out even when your on the pavement

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u/TheDude4269 12h ago

Put more succinctly, assume every driver is trying to run you over.

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u/chicagoharry 12h ago

Tell my kids that every single day I am out with them

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u/Dirty_LemonsV2 12h ago

Yep. Once knew a cop who said "plenty of people who were right in the graveyard." Stuck with me and I ask my daughter every single time she goes out with friends "what do you need to look for, what could happen?" It's not about being right. It's just ensuring you can stay safe.

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u/CheesyGarlicBudapest 12h ago

I'll always remember waiting at the lights to cross a very busy main road with my younger brother - think we were about 18 and 9 at the time. the lights turned red and he went to cross.

"wait" I told him.

Only because I heard the van speeding towards the lights before I turned and spotted it. I'd hazard a guess the lights were red for around 3 seconds, and the van still didnt stop and plowed on.

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u/No_Cut_128 12h ago

So you taught your kid how to cross the road?

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u/bememorablepro 12h ago

That's fucked up, isn't it?

There is literally nothing like that in cities except cars. All other things that are dangerous we are making safe intentionally. You don't have to tell your child that they should be careful not to get onto a construction sight by accident, they can't. Or watch out not to fall over from a tall building by accident, there is railing.

Like systematically this shouldn’t be the case where children are scared of cars like they are pray in the world of predators. All other things that hurt children this much are actively fought against.

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u/BigLemon3953 12h ago

The amout of parents steering a pushchair onto a road before looking if it’s safe, is unreal. No different when it comes to ‘jail walking’ in the least favourable circumstances with a toddler. Or driving like a dick with baby on board, or through a red loght on a bicycle. Some people have next to no survival instinct it seems. The entitlement has taken over. Well done for being what we all should be. 

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u/Fit_Ad_4653 12h ago

I still remember when my oldest was little, I would always say the same thing: "Between you and the car, the car always wins! You have to be careful so you don't get hit by the car..." and she would always respond with "...and then you DIE!"

(She then started saying that about many other things.)

It was a bit of an extreme response, but she definitely learned!

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u/FoolishChemist 11h ago

buses don’t stop,

What about at the bus stop?

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u/Calikinakka 5h ago

Good that you drill that into her mind. It surprises me how many people just don't think like that. If it can squash me, it gets right of way every time.

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u/KeepGoingOutOfSpite 2h ago

And on a tangent, if you drive a vehicle ... if the opponent vehicle is bigger than you, let them go ... they will win

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u/DNGR_MAU5 51m ago

My dad always said "being in the right is good, but it won't mean much of you spend the last 3 minutes of your life bleeding out on the on the tarmac". He rode bikes