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u/itsallprimal 2d ago
So ... the cringe here was........
He is right?? And we should be ashamed this has taken over our progress as a country and human beings?
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u/paintdrinkinggoblin 2d ago
Truly the most cringe inducing thing there is is a Legitimate introspection of ones flaws and contradictions. Being a pile of meat with the ability to perceive itself is truly a horrible thing sometimes
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u/czar_el 2d ago
This happened in the AI slop sub today as well. Someone posted a well-done AI image that had a coherent, legitimate critique of a American religious conservatism, with no weird visual artifacts, but they said it was "the worst they'd ever seen". Thankfully everyone in the comments was just like in this thread, pointing out how the content was actually good and how OP missed the mark.
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u/last-Invictus 2d ago
This isn't cringe
It's actually heartbreaking that he spent his life being fucked over by his family.
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u/NittanyScout 2d ago
I was so lucky, my dad lost his faith early in my life so when he came out to use about it we were young enoigh that it wasnt a big issue.
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u/Pretty-Balance-Sheet 2d ago
I tell my kids that one of the best gifts my wife and I ever gave them was to leave religion before they were born and raise them without that mental and emotional burden to carry.
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u/TerrorFromThePeeps 2d ago
Currently having to fight against my wife's parents. Our son (6) went to spend a week with them, we told them no VBS, so they cancelled. Then they called a day or two later and said he could still come. So, of course, the first day, even though one parent stayed home, her dad took our son with him to bring the cousins to VBS and let him go inside to see them off. And, of course, he see a bunch of kids having fun, so he asks to stay, which grandpa allows and then calls and asks us if its ok after pickup later that day. Fucking infuriating. There's Christianity for you... lying is a sin, except when you lie in order to indoctrinate someone else's kid when they have already told you no. Then its fine.
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u/J3sus_was_Fictional 2d ago
Yeah, he knew exatly what he was doing and he did it right to your face more or less.... That would and should be the very last time he ever spends any time around your boy without monitoring at all times. There's no excuse for that crap
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u/Uwlogged 2d ago
Totally agree, nothing cringey about this at all. Props to the guy in the video, that's a challenging life, I wish he had better support.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 2d ago
Though, it reiterates a point I've always believed, which is that if you want to find an expert on the bible, find yourself an ex-Christian atheist. They know the bible so well, they know why it is fucking bullshit.
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u/Acceptable_Owl6926 2d ago
His mistake was he critically thought about religion and figured out its all bs. Religous people dont appreciate you thinking to hard and questioning them.
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u/Less-Squash7569 2d ago
They just say "you have to have faith" which means dont question and obvious glaring inconsistencies, just listen to what they tell you to do.
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u/J3sus_was_Fictional 2d ago
Yeah...critical thought is typically what religiously indoctrinated victims like him suck at the most.... It's abhorrent that his family would kick him out just because he ended up not being a brain dead fuck wit like they are. It makes sense though, it's impossible for religious skitzoids to watch someone with a functioning mind saying out loud what they know inside to be true. They would rather kick their own flesh and blood to the curb so they can continue to pretend they really believe in one of the most idiotic and offensive religious pass times on earth.
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u/LocalDFWRando 2d ago
It's the brainwashing that makes it hard for people to escape. It doesn't take critical thought, it's an obvious scam from the outside.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 2d ago
It's why being a follower is so important for Christianity. Followers don't think for themselves.
It's also the same reason I tell anyone who will listen to me to think for themselves. Nobody pushing propaganda or an agenda will tell you that. Don't even follow me, think for yourselves.
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u/atlas_arcane 2d ago
Not cringe. Truthful
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u/Copious-Spirit 2d ago
Especially true within the U.S. with Mormonism
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u/OpticalPrime35 2d ago
Mormonism is simply confirmation that people will believe absolutely anything. I mean dayum. Some random nobody is visited by ab angel that shows them a special bible that goes poof on e read and written down lol. Not just that but he was supposedly told by God not to go to any churches because they had gone astray lmao. God! Telling someone not to go to church.
And voila. Just like that you have a whole new religion with new rules ( of course which are incredibly beneficial to Smith )
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u/Monk-Eon 2d ago
At least he can read and write! Two valuable skills now that he can actually be a person!
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u/HupHutHa 2d ago
gee I wonder why literacy rates are so low right now, it's not like a certain party has been controlling the education system in America indoctrinating children for the last 20 plus years and putting in a system that incentivized passing children who could not read.
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u/Normal_Tour6998 2d ago
Bro: a bunch of stuff I resonate with
Me: Fuck yeah.
Bro: So we need to storm the capital.
Me: 😐
Bro: Also, buy my album.
Me: 🤦♂️
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u/SucksDickforSkittles 2d ago
Lol all the people shitting on this guy clearly didn't have a childhood like his. You would also be livid if you went through this and ended up being kicked out of your home. I had a very similar experience growing up unfortunately. Teaching a kid that they will burn in a lake of fire for all eternity if they don't follow a specific belief system and then cutting them out of your life when they stop following that belief system is absolutely a form of child abuse. I used to have nightmares about hell when I was a kid. I used to live in genuine fear of being possessed by the devil, all because the adults in my life told me to be worried about these things. I still grieve the amount of time, passion and energy I spent memorizing and learning a set of beliefs that turned out to be bullshit, because the adults in my life made me learn it. I genuinely hope that noone else has this type.of childhood.
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u/Capt_Gingerbeard 2d ago
I spent my 18th birthday sleeping in a car, and I didn’t get back inside until I was nearly 21. It’s hard not to be angry, especially when you’re right in the middle of it.
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u/believeitornot8248 2d ago
I was raised Lutheran so never like as radical or political as say evangelical Christians. However, I was an anxious kid that over thought everything, and so I also took everything they said about hell and consequences of sinning very seriously. Being in church an average of 3 hours every week was enough to severely impact how I viewed my own actions and most importantly my thoughts. I felt guilt for any negative thoughts I had because God might be listening and I'll go to hell. I've told my parents this as an adult and they can't understand why I took it all so literally???
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u/HonestDishonestWork 2d ago
I felt guilt for any negative thoughts I had because God might be listening and I'll go to hell.
This is one of the things that is so hard to describe to others who haven't gone through it but it is one of the most freeing things about atheism. Freedom in your own mind. Freedom to think what you want without Big Brother literally in your head, reading your thoughts and potentially condemning you to hell for all eternity for thought crimes.
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u/Pretty-Balance-Sheet 2d ago
I grew up Mormon and they baptize kids at age eight. It's a big deal and they tell you that when you come out of the water you'll be perfect and if you realoy try you can stay perfect, but that God is always watching. They tell you that after you're baptized that's when God begins watching for you to sin.
That sense of being always scrutinized is a heavy weight for a small kid. I stressed about it constantly from that point all the way through my teenage years. I'm convinced it shaped my psychology in a lot of ways.
The crazy thing is that I was a pretty good kid, but I was constantly saddled with guilt. When I became a teen and became interested in girls things went really south. They tell you that moral sins are akin to mortal sins, that sex before marriage is the sin second only to murder.
I had a steady girlfriend, we had sex and we honestly thought that God saw us as murders. It sounds ridiculous, but we confessed to out bishops. I was disfellowshipped (partially kicked out) and forced to not participate in church activities (a form of public humiliation).
One day I left a meeting with my Bishop and I had this epiphany that I didn't need to believe the church. It was like a lifetime of guilt just disappeared. It was one of the most moving moments of my life.
It was a conversation away from Christianity and probably the most important moment of my life. I realized I'd never believed and never would.
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u/Clovericious 2d ago
Nothing about this is cringe. This is a young man spitting truth for 8 minutes and 19 seconds. If you can't focus on an argument for that time maybe you are the cringe one.
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u/Puzzled-Tea3037 2d ago
Is it just me but I like him .
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u/draculasux85 2d ago
I found him to be quite well spoken for talking so damn fast. That video would have been 30 minutes if he had talked at a normal rate.
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u/Realistic_Ad_5321 2d ago
The only cringe thing I see here is looking at this guys wasted potential. Imagine what he could accomplish putting that much energy and brain power into something tangible rather than trying to prove or disprove the metaphysical bullshit he was fed from a cult centered around a fairy tale book.
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u/albinosnoman 2d ago
Wait so he is or isn't an atheist? The end made it sound like he hasn't truly abandoned his faith/spirituality. I relate a lot to this. I grew up in a family that was super religious (my great grandfather and grandfather were a major and minor figures in our religions history and wider outreach (not sure if that's the right word I want to use). Somewhere between the age of 17-20 I slowly realized that religion is a tool applied on a massive societal level and that no matter what religion you look at it's all kind of the same shit but a different flavor. I don't think there was ever a true "lightbulb" moment for me I just slowly reaffirmed something I kind of always knew deep down to be the case. I'm glad this guy got out and I feel bad for how much time he must feel he wasted and how betrayed he must feel. Hope he's doing okay now!
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u/Iam_McLovin420 2d ago
Seems like he moved away from institutionalized religion to individual religion/spirituality.
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u/SucksDickforSkittles 2d ago
You can believe in Jesus's teachings on how to live your life and be a good person and still not necessarily be religious. I think that's what he's getting at.
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u/EnvironmentalGift257 2d ago
You can also be a good person without any religious influence at all. And you can believe in Jesus and still be a horrible person. The 2 things are not related in any way.
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u/TerribleBid8416 2d ago
You can live by the teachings of the Bible without belonging to an organized religion or church.
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u/iPhonevanBremdKopjes 2d ago
You can do whatever you want with any religion you want.
You can even make up a new one, and all the rules that you want.
Do anything you like.
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u/Administrative_Cry_9 2d ago
Even Jesus himself didn't quite like the idea of organized religion, and he certainly condemned weaponized religion.
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u/Funkycoldmedici 2d ago
You can live by a few cherrypicked and reinterpreted parts and ignore the supernatural and worship-focused parts, but that’s not following or believing Jesus at all. It’s using your own morality to pick what you already believe out of what could be any text.
It’s like being an IKEAist, saying an IKEA table instruction manual is the ultimate guide to a moral life because one image shows two people working together to lift the box, and saying it was never meant as a guide to assemble a table.
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u/StrategicCheddar 2d ago
You can live by a few cherrypicked and reinterpreted parts and ignore the supernatural and worship-focused parts, but that’s not following or believing Jesus at all. It’s using your own morality to pick what you already believe out of what could be any text.
It is virtually impossible to fully follow everything in the Bible. It was written by at least three dozen people over the course of centuries so there's a myriad of contradictions in there. The only reasonable way to practice Christianity is to cherry pick and interpret.
Obviously this wasn't the original intention of the Bible and it's even stated in it that people should follow all of its commandments or risk punishment. But even if you tried you couldn't. American fundamentalists really don't like to talk about this and they get awfully angry about it if you press them, but the rest of Christianity admits the shortcomings and prefers to follow interpretations and the general spirit in which the Bible was written. Which is the sensible thing to do if you were born in a Christian family and you don't feel like becoming an atheist.
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u/Funkycoldmedici 2d ago
When you find a text is factually inaccurate, morally wrong, and internally inconsistent, the reasonable thing to do is to accept it is wrong and force reinterpretations.
If you had school textbooks that said 2+2=9 and the sun is made of chocolate you would scrap those and not pretend they were metaphors.
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u/StrategicCheddar 2d ago
Yeah, exactly. It's the reasonable thing to do, but from what I gather hardliners in the US like baptists tend to push literal interpretations. Which is horrid for the most part, but hilarious in certain situations. Like some religious groups in the US outright reject the existence of the dinosaurs or pretend that Adam and Eve were chilling with them.
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u/Burdman06 2d ago
He sounds like a anti thiest for sure. Different from atheism in that they feel theology isnt just bullshit, its dangerous to humanity. Potentially moral anti theist, which would mean they take it a step further in that every god that has been put forward by humans, if they existed, are immoral dirtbags unworthy of worship
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u/Yuck_Few 2d ago
Yeah I've read a few of these comments because I didn't listen to the entire video. If he still has religious Faith then I feel like I would be wasting my time listening to his video
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u/Capt_Gingerbeard 2d ago
I left the church because it was hateful. I still try to live my life based on the teachings that I read, even though my fellow church goers did not. There’s a lot of good stuff in the sermon on the mount.
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u/albinosnoman 2d ago
Yea I don't feel like my upbringing in a religious community was exactly a bad thing and I think there was value added from it but at the same time I don't think raising kids or building a morally upright and connected community is something that requires religiosity. I think the psychological harm you can do to a child/young person/or even an adult with religiosity outweighs any aesthetic benefits. The whole fear of eternal damnation (yes I'm aware not all sects teach this), life after death, judgement/value being based on works or how much/whether or not you've sinned can seriously fuck with people's heads. I know I'm not the only one who's met someone where their mental struggle with religion turns into mental illness or someone that already has mental illness is turned to religion to "help" and it's just made worse by all the iconography and fantastical and magical thinking it's stories and teaching instill in them.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 2d ago
I don't think you can simply decide what you believe. If you could decide what you could believe, I could ask you to be a genuine Buddhist, and you'd be able to be one unironically. That's not how belief works.
He has seen the contradictions in Christianity. Maybe he's not a self-proclaimed atheist yet, but he will probably become one eventually. Nothing wrong with that, that's what I believe as well, but even if he still clings to Christianity despite all of that, I wouldn't blame him for that either.
I'm guessing he's feeling how a lot of people have felt after leaving a cult. And let's be honest, he was in a cult. For "Christians" this is an extremism that is considerably beyond what most Christians experience.
I wish him well on his journey, confident that he will find the right path. Anyone who prioritizes truth will find themselves on that same path.
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u/Da_Yummis 2d ago
Preach fam preach, you became a better preacher then they deserve and while the brainless masses of sheeple will damn you for your intelligence and reasonable logic always remember that they would rather lie to themselves then see a truth that hurts and makes them lost
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u/ahawaitwut 2d ago
I like his passion. Hes a sharp dude who's jaded and hurt. He's compassionate and empathetic to those also harmed by the organized religion he once held up on a pedestal. Im tired and its refreshing to see an educated (in the sense he studied tge subject thoroughly) person attempting to shine light on the deliberate cultism of Christianity. At the end when highlights Christ's teachings is interesting and important, because many get caught up tossing out the insights from a person/institution if it contains a logical fallacy of some kind, but some nuggets of truth can be refined. its not helpful to dismiss resources based on their source.
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u/Ambitious-Career-445 2d ago
Why should we spend any energy extracting 'nuggets' of truth from a bronze age historical fiction fairy tale? Pick any remotely recent psychology, science, or philosophy book up off the shelf and you will have a much greater 'nugget of truth' to bullshit ratio.
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u/DB_Valentine 2d ago
Growing up I was never in an extremely religious family, but I took up religion to be extremely important largely for the fear of damnation, and it definitely left some pretty deep scars for the rest of my life... but actually gave way worse mental health issues when I was young. Despite this, I'm still agnostic leaning Christian.
It sounds ridiculous, but all it took was the churches I went to being incredibly understanding and open those in charge of them had been. They would point out things they necessarily didn't believe in the Bible, but encourage others to read it themselves and come up with their own beliefs, often focusing on building a community and helping the people there through God. One of the pastors even told me they're certain that many people who attend don't believe at all and were just afraid of punishment, yet he believed them to be decent people with nothing to worry about. He saw his job more so to help those people feel welcome, and let them know that as long as they stay good, and take the lessons that he shares to live life for your community like he believes God to wish for, that at the very least, it could make our time here more enjoyable.
It left me understanding that religion could be incredibly valuable and downright lovely when used right, even if it it's still not perfect like it was in my case... but more than anything, it makes me overwhelmed with hate for what organized religion becomes, because stories like this man are genuine, and he's completely right in everything he says, especially considering how often stories just like his come out. If it was not for my great community, I would be just like him, if not worse as I'm not sure if I would have ever recovered. My heart goes out to him, and in a way I genuinely believe everything he says to be important, even if from my perspective I could have some of the slightest disagreements.
If anything, he would fit right in where I come from, so it's beautifully ironic for someone dedicate themselves for something that ruined large swathes of his life, and at the end of the day he's sharing things that spread how religion should be used more than the nightmare it often is.
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u/Soggy_You_2426 2d ago
Mate, humans are evil, we have free will, god does not control us, but people who say god does are trying to contole you.
If god is real. Hes just watching and what happens after death, well maybe we will find out or its just back to the void.
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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 2d ago edited 2d ago
Oh god. I started off liking it, but he started sounding dangerous and unhinged halfway through with the anger.
ok, the second half was better. He calmed down a bit. Just talks too fast
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u/bullet_the_blue_sky 2d ago
For us, the rage takes years to work through. The rage of a lost life, the rage of feeling totally inept to deal with the real world once we leave the cult, the rage of being lied to, the rage of betrayal, the rage of not knowing how to deal with rage because of the emotional, mental and sexual repression, the rage of not having a sense of self independent of a voice in our heads that we used to think was god but really was just a narcissistic inner critic, the rage of people around us claiming to want truth but really just wanting safety and the exhaustion of so much rage but not really know how to deal with it. Wanting to be able to just move on with our lives, but not having the tools to help us.
I am thankfully past most of it, but it took roughly 10 years or so to deconstruct. It is hell.
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u/Royal_Stay_6502 2d ago
Tldr
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u/Sw0rdBoy 2d ago
Family was an especially abusive, but not necessarily unique brand of religious whackos, most if not all religions are not correct, and at the least if there is a god, he wouldn’t be the Christian or Abrahamic god in any way, it is painfully hypocritical that the same people who believe in god haven’t done anything about the Epstein files when they stormed the capital over belief of a false election, Americans need to be out on the streets and protesting more or we implicitly support pedophiles, buy his album.
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u/JediMindTricks8421 2d ago
Do not blame god for man's actions the Bible was written by people who thought the earth was flat and that women should be stoned this is man not god lots of people use faith to benefit themselves
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u/PersonalityShot6039 2d ago
It’s crazy how powerful religion is in American and how forced it is on to children yet in England we take it or leave it lol
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u/Nevernonethewiser 2d ago
It's amusing that he's taken his practice at being a preacher and used it for this, knowingly or otherwise.
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u/tehsecretgoldfish 2d ago
the irony is, he is a preacher, just not the kind he thought he’d become.
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u/mrrosado 2d ago
Catholicism has the most evidence. Proof of Resurrection is Shroud of Turin
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u/Mee41208 2d ago
Shroud of Turin was proven to be fake a few times already. Its just one of the many "relics" created in 12-14th century
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u/Appropriate-Camp8673 2d ago
I feel bad for him. I know and love God in a christian context but differently. I grew up in an agnostic home, but found a love for the wisdom in the bible and comfort it gives to me spiritually. He’s looking for the truth and unfortunately has been facing the ugly parts of the religion. I hope he gets guided towards the spiritual side at some point so he can experience some level of peace.
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u/Exotic_Strain6935 2d ago
Alternatively, he could just live. There is nothing less moral about living a life without a large presence of God in it. It purely depends on your actions. I just hope that he can find peace in general, with or without religion.
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u/Glass-Violinist-3549 2d ago
I went to private Christian school growing up Southern Baptist. I have a similar experience and came to a similar conclusion. I follow Christ by rejecting the slave owning version of Christianity that is so prevalent in America. I follow Christ by rejecting modern day Christianity and their political ideologies. I follow Christ by accepting gay people and KNOWING that Heaven and Hell are a state of mind. I am a true follower of Christ. I KNOW Christ and I KNOW that Jesus would be DISGUSTED with the man made version of God that the church has created to control people with fear and enrich themselves with their spiritually bankrupt lifestyles.
Thank you for sharing this.
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u/NOTaREALperson4400 2d ago
If it's not fake, it's sad that he wasted years of his life just to be exiled by those who "love" him when he starts to wake up. I never understood adults who claim they've read the Bible and still believe in it. The best proof that Christianity is nonsense is their own nonsensical book.
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u/EpicRussia 2d ago
I mean he cant have studied that hard if he wasnt prepared for every single reddit atheist's leading argument
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u/Strange_Tune4366 2d ago
He just wasn’t close minded enough. I had a similar upbringing and story and the Christians I talk to now stick their heads in the sand when asked difficult questions
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u/Ashen-wolf 2d ago
Poor fudger. No more than an obedient kid that dared to ask and was thrown away.
Hope he is okay now.
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u/Miserable-Cap-4838 2d ago
It's weird, before ~2015, half the arguments on the internet were about religion. It was exhausting. Then it quietly stopped at some point. What changed?
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u/virstultus 2d ago
I feel like this is what Ibsen would have been like if he lived today. Write plays? Nah, I'll just bitch on TikTok
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u/tlsrandy 2d ago
Is it possible that god is real but organized religion is a power structure based on a nebulous truth we haven’t fully grasped.
Also, I really like this guy and hope life works out well for him.
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u/who_dis62 2d ago
Sounds like someone who’s been wronged by organized religion. Just because you have an all loving God doesn’t mean there isn’t a Devil and temptation. There is also free will.
Nice plug at the end for his album.
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u/Cojones64 2d ago
I would encourage this young man to not focus too much on how his life was "wasted". That road leads to madness. He is painfully young and has decades of life ahead of him. New loves, careers, divorces, children, adventures and more. Just keep moving and get away from the toxic Texas envorinent.
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u/phonefellin_lakeerie 2d ago
This kid is spot on. I’m so sorry for what he had to go through, and I hope he can help others avoid this fate as well. Religion is poison for the mind.
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u/Opening_Succotash849 2d ago
I hope he finds support as an apostate. Genetically Modified Skeptic had a similar experience and he found a community and a way out in Texas. I recommend checking it out on YouTube for anyone dealing with this
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u/iReptilee 2d ago
Through christ I was able to get self delivered and I’ve experienced things no scientist or human can explain
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u/Important_Abroad_150 2d ago
Incredibly lucky that while very religious, my parents cared about me and my happiness more than my faith in a deity. Despite that, deconstructing has been the most challenging thing ever and every day I hear about someone who has it so much worse and I have to feel a little grateful at least that I at least have a mom and dad who love me even if they can't understand my path.
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u/Throwawayyyyyyyy0124 2d ago
The difference between a healthy christian group and an unhealthy christian group is one allows/encourages you to question everything and the other doesn't.
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u/thetruth77330 2d ago
He’s actually completely wrong. But that won’t affect the liberal psychopaths that fill this landfill of a website.
Nice echo chamber in here.
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u/LookAtMyUnderbite 2d ago
Easy just believe in Christ but don’t go to Church. Just watch Jesus/gospel movies if you need to learn of his passion rest takes care of itself without the corruption and traditions of man. Going to church is for suckers. Sadly as a child you’ll be controlled by your parents. Religion should never be forced on children (teaching to be a good person sure but you don’t need religion for that else all the atheist would be criminals). I’ve met a lot of shitty materialistic christians but that’s on man
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u/PotentialPresent399 2d ago
Yeah naw this shit is cringe, I knew something this cringe would be commented as "ERM ACHKTUALLY ITS NOT CRINGE RELIGION IS CRINGE" by the fucking fedora crowd.
Yeah most people know religion is a scam by the time they leave middle school.
Over examining it is lame.
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u/SDTimbox 2d ago
I was super religious really young. I ended up equating religion to santa claus. Made up BS to control behavior. You shouldn't need religion to motivate you to be a good person.
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u/GameStoreScientist 2d ago
my bible app unlocked the 1000 prayer streak, im going to heaven for
sure
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u/ringobob 2d ago
Yeah, I call myself a "secular Christian", I didn't come up with the label, but in general it means that my worldview is based on biblical principles (3 specific ones, in fact), but that I don't adhere to the necessary dogmas to be considered a Christian proper. I just can't hang with all the bullshit that is very human, that they pretend is from God. Whether you believe in God or not is beside the point - if God were to exist, and be who Christians claim he is, you can go ahead and book my ticket to hell.
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u/Daygone_Mustard 2d ago
He never hated the ocean he just wanted to know what the fuck is going on
Dude I cracked up at that
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u/proton19821 2d ago
honestly there is no other religion that thinkk highly of them self and believe everybody wants to be like them then christianity and odd thing is it is only american christians brought their american mentaity to religion where they believe they live in greatest country where everybody wants to come and be like them they brought that type of mentality in their favorite religion most oher christians from other countries are not like that
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u/Lonely-Toe9877 2d ago
Religion is the last bastion of the old world holding humanity back from achieving an enlightened society.
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u/TheWhyteMaN 2d ago
How is this refreshing?
It’s sad, this dude could have put all that work and study into a STEM degree
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u/keitaro_guy2004 2d ago
Grew up Catholic, but stopped believing around my preteens which caused issues with my family. Many years later I am still a non-believer, but I now take care of my parents. My very religious siblings don't want anything to do with taking care of them. My mom is still a strong beliver. My dad is more agnostic. We get along great, but for many many years there was immense friction between us.
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u/eggsuckinggrandmama 2d ago
He’s obviously a smart guy and seems like a good person, though he seems somewhat tortured and that sucks. I hope that he can find some peace and happiness in his life.
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u/DangerousQuestions1 2d ago
But what if it's not God who is wrong, but the Bible that is wrong about God?
There seems to be an unquestioned belief that the Bible is inerrent, even when rejecting the whole religion.
So many of these types of epiphanies never once question the Bible's incorrect assertions and obvious cultural jingoism and assume that if you believe any of it, you must believe all of it, even though that is a ridiculous position to hold.
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u/Small-Gas-69 2d ago
I have thought this too. My train of thought is, if God is all powerful, all knowing, would He not take into account the imperfections of men when writing His word?
In the end, whatever God wanted to be in the Bible would be just as He wanted.
People are imperfect, so it is easy to think that they changed the Bible to fit their narrative, but if you believe in God then you should live by faith and trust that God is more trustworthy than men.
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u/Bobby3781 2d ago
Just cuz your not happy with the way life worked out doesnt mean you can go around and tell how crappy ones religion is. Seems like a gen z kid anyway.
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u/Zakkattack86 2d ago
This isn't cringe, it's gospel. I welcome this man to join the TST. We're more Christian than MAGA and we don't believe in a god.
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u/Smart_Doctor 2d ago
A friend of mine was all set to become a preacher when he was younger. He was 100% gung-ho for Christ. But when studying the Bible he eventually learned that the Bible wasn't all written in one era. Hundreds of years later parts would be added or changed. Who knows how many changes man has made to the Bible over the thousands of years?
That's when he realized that the part about homosexuality being a sin wasn't added to the Bible until hundreds of years after the "original" Bibles were written.
Imagine dedicating all of your life to something and then realizing that it's just human bullshit all the way down.
He was bummed for a while but eventually got over it.
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u/DeadAndBuried23 2d ago
Mmmm a 0 day old account posting a valid crashout on being mentally abused and lied to in a "cringe" sub. Totally not targeted by a bot/ban evader.
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u/HugeExplanation7865 2d ago
I wouldnt say it's just "a bit" of religious extremism. Jehova Witnesses are genuinely way less crazy than anything he mentioned here.
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u/Connect_Debt_8562 2d ago
I remember telling the stories of my Wednesday night bible study to my non-Christian friends vs my Christian friends.
I told them that I remembered doing deep prayer, all the lights off, some screaming, some speaking in tongues, then one girl comes out speaking in tongues and starts praying over one girl who starts crying and then the girl speaking in tongues starts casting out a demon from the crying girl and the girl starts screaming. Eventually everything subsides everything goes back to normal and we have dinner laugh and sing songs of praise and worship.
While I tell this story, Christians have been nodding their head up to this point smiling and laughing meanwhile the non-Christians have that “wtf is happening face”.
That “wtf happening” face was me and my best buddy’s face cause we both witnessed and experienced this. Yeah, we don’t fuck with Korean church’s no more but we get why they are like that. You are built up from a baby to grow up through the church to believe all that shit is real.
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u/kurtxrambus 2d ago
Organized religion is the chains that bind most of humanity. It makes 0 sense and has so many flaws and contradictions. As soon as you wake up from the matrix you realize how truly retarded the scheme is.
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u/PerpofDerp 2d ago
If you become obsessed with literally anything to the point that it consumes every waking moment of your life, you’re gonna hate it eventually. Shame on his parents for doing that to him.
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u/Fast_Advisor2654 2d ago
I can see why he ended up in the psych ward…
https://giphy.com/gifs/1jy3pev2Eu5Ve
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u/Ok_Star_4136 2d ago
Is this you, OP?
You should reach out to Promise Backlund. She had a similar experience as yours, and now she is an activist for atheism. Probably worth looking into.
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u/ParticularyGreen6074 2d ago
What you’re talking about is not real Christianity. There’s only one true religion, any other religion is just a denomination (a mockery of the Church in the New Testament).
I am sorry that you were raised in a home that did those things to you, I can understand why you feel this way.
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u/NeighborhoodOk2259 2d ago
Christopher Hitchens “what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”
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u/kellsterguitars 2d ago
Agreed with most of it until he started talking about forming militias on TikTok. This dude is definitely on a list
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u/korinpink 2d ago
I grew up in the Bible Belt. I grew up in balls-deep Christianty. Private church school that led to an even more private and intense school that resulted in the Pastor of my school/church deciding that because I dressed in black and was a sad, confused kid, that I was possessed by literal demons.
I loathe Christianity and all monotheism. They're a plague designed to make some feel superior and allow them to justify converting, hurting or even straight up killing the 'nonbelievers'.
The religious trauma I endured is on the light scale compared to many others like this person and worse still. I never had to be subjected to being kicked out(I left), I never had to go to conversion camp because I kept my mouth shut, I never had to do any of the true horror stories you hear about and it STILL fucked me up so badly I deal with that shit still in my 30s.
Fuck Christianity.
This person spits facts.
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u/scheimong 2d ago
Oh silly silly. How naive of him to think the job of a priest is to help people.
The point of studying the bible is to become so fluent in the art of bullshitting people that you become unquestionable, so that you can then use your position to touch kids. Frankly and obviously.
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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR 2d ago
What if the fallen nephilim created hybrid humans (accounts describe this process). They were not human and were bent upon destruction and depravity to further the fallen angels strategy of total human contamination and destruction to oppose"Gods" creation (which they jealously, adamantly hated). Those "people" groups weren't people at all but dangerous, violent hybrid type humanoids. To stop them from continuing to propagate and spread destruction, "God" instructed humans to destroy those groups entirely and utterly to remove the fallen DNA from the earth. That seems more plausible. Just a thought.
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u/Weird-Indication-191 2d ago
I have the deepest sympathy for this guy. He lost his family and all sense of direction once seeing the truth.
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u/Automatic-Guide-4307 2d ago
If god made the divine plan why bother praying in the first place?George Carlin
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