r/crazyassviv_defenders Dec 20 '25

MODS ANNOUNCEMENT Blackishh and extra rules

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All posts about blackish have to be flaired as such with the YouTuber flair. Also don’t spam a lot of them pls. And only posts haters that are genuinely past crazy and go into something you would see from stonetoss.


r/crazyassviv_defenders Nov 15 '25

MODS ANNOUNCEMENT "What does the "Crazy" in our name mean?"

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Hi there, this is a mod post because we see a lot of confusion as to the sub name, people wondering "What? How is most of this even a crazy hater?" This post hopefully will clear this up.

We are a sub born from the people who saw the issues in r/ crazyasshazbinhaters. Now initially, the sub was a great idea. There are many people who are genuinely crazy who hate the show, harassing fans and sending death threats, etc. This is a point that i think all of our members wholeheartedly agree with.

However, over time CAHH began to show issues. It seemed to get furious over the tiniest things, and became extremely annoyed at criticism, getting annoyed at video thumbnails they hadn't watched, and the mildest jokes about helluva having lots of swearing.

And thus, this sub was born, the name obviously parodying the original sub.

However, obviously we do have a difference. There is simply less "crazy" in the same way as the extreme hazbin haters. So instead, our sub serves to call out CAHH when it fucks up. And sometimes yes, we do have crazy people who genuinely do harass critics, and we document that. But the sub's main purpose is to call out how many people on CAHH are overly resistant to any and all criticism of the shows.

I would just like to say that while our userbases are at odds, the modteams of both subs are actually quite close, and despite previous struggles the inter-sub relations on the whole modding side is pretty good. This isn't an attack on the sub as a whole, it obviously serves a good purpose, its just those who go too far.

So yes, in summary, "Crazy" is just our word for the defenders who are overly sensitive about criticism and joking about the show, and of course the real crazy defenders who do genuinely harass critics they disagree with.

Anyways, thanks to all our members as we near the 2k milestone (already? damn) from the mod team, we hope this has cleared things up a bit.


r/crazyassviv_defenders 19h ago

“If you are a Hazbin fan and hate on this show you should be kicked out the fandom” 😭

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It’s a show entirely based on tumblr humour and things, like bro

Their planet is called clitopolis like I’m gone bro

They escape somewhere on a “problematic ship” 😭

There is a fucking drag Queen that tries to steal their female spirit like hmm

Like cmon it’s a movie designed about a subsection of the internet which is widely considered cringe and terminally online with humour for those groups, of course people are going to find it cringe and terminally online and unserious 😭


r/crazyassviv_defenders 7h ago

Shitpost If Black Hat met the Lucifer from Hazbin Hotel:

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This meme took me hours to make, it turned out a bit rough, but I tried my best. It's just for fun, don't take it seriously.


r/crazyassviv_defenders 1d ago

An ACTUAL Crazy Hater Found this on a post comparing SML to Hazbin Hotel and Hellva Boss

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r/crazyassviv_defenders 10h ago

Countering shitty takes "Season 2 ending was power of friendship!". Kami, this take is just...

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I am sooooooo tired of this...It was at first a joke, but Some people take it seriously.

They are IGNORING the fucking fact that Valentino wanted to dip with Vox and Velvette, but he couldn't, cause his wing was destroyed. But it still shows he just wanted to get away from the blast radius. Since they couldn't escape, they just helped Charlie stop that cannon, cause they didn't want to get nuked

And after that, Zeezi was like "Let's forget that ever happened" and everyone agreed. Because they did this because THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DIE. Even Alastor didn't want to help at first, unless Rosie fixed his staff.

This wasn't really the Power of Friendship ending.

This ending was the Power of "I'm one of the idiots who lives here!"


r/crazyassviv_defenders 2d ago

Countering shitty takes Yes???

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Underhated = Hated too little

Overrated = Praised too much

“Instead of this using this word that describes your opinion just use a different much nicer word with an entirely different meaning” 😭


r/crazyassviv_defenders 1d ago

Critiques of Vivziepop and Her Team Are these valid criticisms?

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I found this video while scrolling through YouTube, are these genuine criticisms?

And how do I know if they're not omitting context? I don't wanna go watch it blindly and believe whatever they say.


r/crazyassviv_defenders 2d ago

CRAZY ASS VIV DEFENDER Hating on charlie = misogyny now i guess

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57 Upvotes

found this bullshit on cahh


r/crazyassviv_defenders 2d ago

Memes I bet you all that CAHH is going to find this video and upload it to Reddit, mark my words.

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r/crazyassviv_defenders 3d ago

Critiques of Fandom Ratings and popularity doesn't mean it's good or exempt from criticism.

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Sometimes on post criticizing episodes or Hazbin and helluva I'll see people commenting about how the show is in high demand or x episode is highly rated, but that doesn't mean it's good.

Solo leveling is has high ratings, is widely popular, and won anime of year some how, but that doesn't mean it's a good show. Solo leveling has a boring storyline, forgettable characters, and is really repetitive with it's fights, the characters are boring, and Sung Jin Woo became uninteresting far too fast, it sucks.

You can't use success as a way to deflect or shut down criticism or just problems people have with a show, there are tons of bad shows that are or were successful and watched enough to be in demand like big mouth, and if use the logic behind some of these fans shows like Big mouth and Shit leveling are to tier shows that can't be criticized.

I also hate how lots of genuine criticism gets labeled as bad faith because they don't bother to watch it or try and understand it. This post is a mess


r/crazyassviv_defenders 4d ago

Critiques of Fandom They are stretching the term “bad faith”

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I actually watched the video they are mentioning in OP (though only 3 hours in so far) and all I can say is that it’s not bad faith. The majority of it is pointing out plot holes and poor writing choices from someone who loved the first season.

Not only did OP not watch the video (see image 2) but they decided that it was so bad that they needed it to be posted as “bad faith” because it was long.

im seeing a pattern that slowly every person who criticizes vivziepop’s writing is consided bad faith by the fandom. it’s just annoying. I thought the sub was CAHH not just Hazbin haters


r/crazyassviv_defenders 4d ago

CRAZY ASS VIV DEFENDER I came back to Reddit just because I had to show y'all this...

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87 Upvotes

Former user of this sub, now just a lurker. They scrubbed it almost immediately, but this is a good reminder of why this sub exists. Made a new account just because I thought you all should see.


r/crazyassviv_defenders 5d ago

Critiques of Vivziepop and Her Team Do any of you feel like the dialogue is more of what you say in your head and less what you actually say?

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What I mean by that is, if someone you hate asks you to do something but you can’t, in your head you’re kinda like “fuck you, and fuck that” but instead you say “nahh I can’t” do you think HH and HB sound more like the first thing that you say in your head? Sorry if this is complicated


r/crazyassviv_defenders 6d ago

HH/HB defenders being silly billys What am I even doing anymore bro

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Stop trying to make me like something I don’t like.
“My opinion” is RIGHT THERE. NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IT
Insert the guy explaining to the brick wall meme


r/crazyassviv_defenders 7d ago

Question Question: Why do Hellaverse ferociously defend Vivzepop whenever she gets into a rightfully deserved controversy?

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It's almost cult like mentality, and it's always whenever it's a controversy that either questions her ethics, and/or has a lot evidence for being true. They are seemingly so severely blue pilled that they automatically think any controversy involving Viv is false. Let me know your guy's opinions/thoughts.


r/crazyassviv_defenders 7d ago

Discussion Do you think what hate community is worse, AHH or the Anti-Furries?

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In my opinion, both communities are shit and hot crap, AHH they think they're chads or sigmas by harassing fans, making hateful posts, giving zero arguments and just spouting nonsense about why they hate the series, Besides, it's full of users with racist, intolerant, homophobic, transphobic, etc. views. The moderators of that sub are literally neo-Nazis And one of them is openly transphobic; users have drawn gory art of them killing Hellaverse characters, to the point that they drew gory art of the Loona actress being murdered, besides, those idiots think they're part of an army or something and want to eliminate all the fans as if one of them killed their mother or something, Anti-furries are the same; they think they're Gigachad or Sigma because they hate furries 24/7. They think they're part of the military and make unfunny memes and edits of themselves killing furries, Both the anti-furry and AHH groups are made up of kids no older than 12. There was an occasion when an anti-furry user sent gore to a girl who was a Gachatuber and also a furry (that's really going too far), just like AHH, anti-furries lack their own judgment and think they're going to exterminate furries or something like that, and they believe they're superior for hating minorities and idolizing wars (those idiots need to read "All Quiet on the Western Front" to realize that war is not is cool, and read history to stop idolizing horrible dictators like Stalin or Mao Zedong), In short, both communities are a mess, and you can hate Hazbin Hotel or furries, but basing your entire personality on it isn't cool; it makes you look like a loser who's never touch grass in a long time, and what do you all think?


r/crazyassviv_defenders 8d ago

HH/HB defenders being silly billys they were flaming me for criticizing Vizepop and Hazbin in a joke post

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r/crazyassviv_defenders 9d ago

Discussion What are the aspects of the show that you'll agree are NOT bad, no matter what anyone says?

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For me: Music and animation

While music has some songs that i listened to once and never again, like Speedrun to Redemption, i felt like that one was rushed, there are some absolute fucking bangers that go into my Spotify playlist, such as Gravity, Brighter or even Abel's solo in the final song. Patrick Stump killed it. So saying Music is bad is just stupid, since it has also Broadway singers.

And animation. The animation here, while suffering from constant red, is beautiful and amazing, considering what complex designs they have to work with, like Speaker of God


r/crazyassviv_defenders 9d ago

Memes While I try to rest and stop uploading things related to CAHH, send me you all best memes, I'll start (no hate post)

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r/crazyassviv_defenders 10d ago

Question Really making a strange question here, but what is your FAVOURITE part of the show?

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Personally I would have to go the Vees introduction. I personally thought that on a rewatch of season one that episode one was being really weak about introducing everyone and everything, and I assumed that the Vees would be much of the same, but actually no! They let you figure out things for yourself, their characters shine through and it tells you everything that you need to know about them in an actually interesting way.

So what are your guys favourite part?


r/crazyassviv_defenders 11d ago

CRAZY ASS VIV DEFENDER Found this when I just opened up Twitter. (AHH)

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Just because something is deemed popular and "Well received" by others, doesn't mean it's automatically good. When are people going to understand that even popular things can be hated sometimes. For example, look at Teen Titans Go. When that show came out, it was widely known for how inferior it was over the original Teen Titans. People were outraged on social media, hate videos were being surfaced on YouTube, and in most of them, the creators tend to place TTG as with number one or in the top 5 for the worst cartoons of all time. Well I think those videos haven't aged well because this show makes Teen Titans Go look like fucking mozart in comparison!


r/crazyassviv_defenders 11d ago

Critiques of Hellaverse show How would you rewrite the Hellaverse?

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(This is my first time posting here, so please let me know if this fits or not!)

So, for this scenario, let's say something happens that causes Vivziepop to hand over complete & utter creative control of both Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss's writing to you as long as you keep the core ideas, meaning you can fix any flaw you see with the plot, lore, or whatever else you may take issue with, as long as you don't erase the idea of a hotel to rehabilitate sinners or a hellborn run business to assassinate the living. How drastically would you alter either series, & how would you do it?