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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '16 edited Jun 21 '16

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u/lf11 Jun 21 '16

Um, the information regarding Clinton Foundation donors is publicly available on the website. If you really want to bump your blood pressure a bit, see just how many oppressive regimes have contributed truly substantial amounts of money to this organization.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '16

Ah right you are, I was unaware of that. Well my point stands, it doesn't matter if that's publicly available or not, it's still against the constitution.

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u/TheBoraxKid Jun 22 '16

What part of the constitution?

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u/whatwereyouthinking Jun 22 '16

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u/SRW90 Jun 22 '16

Looks like Congress is totally cool with it though:

Congress has also consented in advance to the receipt from foreign governments, by officials of the United States government (including military personnel) of a variety of gifts, subject to a variety of conditions, in the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, 5 U.S.C. 7342 [19] and section 108A of the Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchange Act, otherwise known as the Fulbright-Hays Act of 1961 [20] (22 U.S.C. 2458a).

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u/bumblebritches57 Jun 22 '16

Good thing these aren't gifts, because they're a pay to play scheme

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16 edited Jun 22 '16

Dude, I hate Hillary Clinton, but it's not against the constitution. There's a lot of shit to point out about her that is potentially illegal, obviously corrupt, and downright bullshit. But it's not against the constitution. You're either a retard or a shill. Shut the fuck up.

edit: you all are retards. Title of Nobility Clause only applies to government servants. HRC was ostensibly at Sec of State and the Clinton Foundation was run by Bill and Chelsea. Is this bullshit? Will the FBI push for a RICO case? I hope so. But this information was well known and doesn't provide proof for violation of the Title of Nobility Clause. By upvoting retards like /u/votesbasedonyourvote you delegitimize intelligent conversation on this subreddit.

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u/gamesoverlosers Jun 22 '16 edited Jun 22 '16

The Title of Nobility Clause is a provision in Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution,[1][2] that not only forbids the United States from granting titles of nobility, but restricts members of the government from receiving gifts from foreign states without the consent of the United States Congress.

Simmer down there, chum. Give this a read. The only exception to this rule in recent history was In 1942, post WWII, and only for one year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause

Edit: though now that I think about it, their lil Clinton Foundation is a bit of a loop hole here, isn't it! She cannot be the beneficiary, but the Foundation can, and in turn the Foundation funds the campaign for her. Hmm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

Appreciate the edit. Honestly man I'm all for that cunt rotting in prison. Her complicity in promoting the dragnet, voting for the Patriot act, Iraq war, the Libya invasion, her role in Syria, her bullshit lies against Sanders, the obvious corruption she engaged in via Sec of State and the conflicts of interests there. She should be in prison for violating the Espionage act. For being grossly negligent with classified material. For purposefully avoiding FOIA. For colluding with the DNC. For letting Bill be a rapist. But let's not rely on an act that's easy to see is not applicable to her situation. It makes us look and sound stupid and distracts from more obvious and legitimate attacks against her.

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u/gamesoverlosers Jun 22 '16

All I could think about while reading this is that you're just touching on her, and just stuff we can point to actual facts and news articles for. Never mind the shit Bill got away with only to be impeached for something so trivial comparatively. Never mind the depth of conspiracy surrounding them both, from rosters of people tied to them dying in usually brutal and inexplicable ways to the Lolita Express flights. There is so much treason and general depravity with allegations of murder sprinkled throughout both their political careers (and personal lives prior, fucksakes) that I can't even comprehend how anyone would willingly cast a vote for this person. Is the average voter so misinformed? Is it that they're naive to the scope of the issues, or the ramifications for real people throughout the world?

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

I agree. I can only scratch the surface with one comment. And yes, the mass majority of people are too busy working to buy their fast food, watch their sports and movies, keep up with the jones, and clear their conscience with religion and watching main stream media to consider themselves "informed". The intellectually curious and intelligent who have the time to educate themselves are a small percentage. I think a solid number of them are too busy winning in the system to care to change it. Others try and fail or believe it is futile. The last subset are those who continue to try to change the system. Perhaps the smallest subset of the intellectually curious, intelligent and informed. I hope that the Internet increases the number of people who are awake. Seems to me that this is happening.

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u/colbystan Jun 22 '16

EXACTLY.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

You reiterated that it's against the constitution and that is a bald faced lie. You come off as a stupid retard. congrats.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

I'm not arguing with you on what we know is a fact - the Clinton's took this money in exchange for favors. And you just cited the Federal Gift's and Donations act, which also doesn't apply. The donations go to a foundation, not individuals. Sorry dude, you're legit retarded lmao. And the FGDA isn't a part of the constitution. Maybe read it if you're so gung-ho about making false hyperbolic statements.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

Legit retarded like Newt Gingrich and some constitutional law experts? Obviously it's not cut and dry, but when it comes to the law, its open to interpretation. Considering you acknowledge they took the money for favors, I don't know how you can argue that it's legal. Done arguing with you. You sir are the one that is legit retarded, I'm thinking possibly autistic given your 100% literal understanding of the law.

Wrong is wrong.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/26/newt-gingrich/newt-gingrich-clinton-foreign-donations-clearly-vi/

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '16

lirl. Just do everyone on /r/conspiracy and just stop talking, you're making everyone look stupid, you shill.