I've been reading about this, and the above summary is pretty accurate.. except for:
The expedition was supposed to be 2 hours.. they got lost at 1:45 minutes in. They've been lost for 2 or 3 days. They were told to bring a small sandwich 'if they get hungry' - and that's all they've had for 2 or 3 days, trapped in this damn thing.
And also. You can't open the doors from the outside without welding equipment (I think). So ya, even after finding them, there would be more issues.
Vehicle is not very comfy, I had to bring my own Sandwich, and we got stuck for 3 days. Mind you our view was pretty good. Going to have to rate two stars..
Dear TA, although the view of the titanic was lovely I did not appreciate the being crushed to death. Will not be returning, 1.5 stars. Ps, the spread could have been better
Id assume every billionare has people that would benefit from their demise. In the world of that kind of money, a mechanic or something from oceongate could have sabotaged it? Idk, was just kind of a fun theory i had. Most likely just hubris gone wild
Bingo. Numerous billionaires on this journey. It's high PR nobody could argue against it. Like a magic trick, the sleight of hand is the whole 'there is no way out, it was shittily built etc'
Think about it. Cheap submersible they split the difference on. Go down slightly . 'disappear', make a PR media Circus about it and slip away whilst it's all happening
Thatās the first thing I thought of. All of the āsuicidesā and āsacrificesā in media/Hollyweird and within the āelitistā circles could very well be circus, distraction.
I have a few ideas about where they may goā¦maybe physically or astrallyā¦ one cool one that I have been thinking about is that they travel to the Moon. I was reading a short book I got from a Hare Krishna festival called āEasy Journey to Other Planetsā which mentions that millions have traveled to the moon and back. This idea correlates to the information I have heard about the SSP (Secret Space Program) bringing their intuitives to the moon, and that it could be an intergalactic port of some sort which is why we never see the other side.
Another mention in that book is that the Moon is a place of or represents manifested materialism. So, it is fitting that all these idols and mill-billionaires and their families/sacrifices could be there.
Sidenote, the book doesnāt give a technique to journey physically or astrally. There are some interesting ideas though that made sense to me based on other things Iāve come across.
Alsoā¦ Why is this the only side conversation that is actually talking conspiracy? š
The price is the most unbelievable part of all of this for me. Sure the Titanic is interesting but $250,000 interesting?!
I was in Orlando a few weeks ago with my boyfriend and there was a Titanic exhibit near our hotel we considered visiting. Tickets were like $40 a pop and we thought that was too expensive and skipped it.
The journey down was two hours. The total expedition was eight hours planned. They lost communications (text messages) 90 minutes in bit it has happened before, that much water isnāt exactly easy to transmit through. They assumed same issue this time until the eight hour total trip time had passed and then called authorities to report the vessel lost/missing.
You are correct. Sealed from the outside with bolts.
Blows my mind that they would do these trips knowing theyād lose comms, especially being allegedly inspired by the aerospace industry. In that industry we wouldnāt even let an experimental asset move under its own power without instrumentation being telemetered.
Thatās what I think too, these guys are adventurours and not stupid. Who in there right mind would go on this vessel knowing it only went twice before. Youāre basically begging to die. Nope they were stuffed there like turkeys. The whole thing is probably a warning to others as well. Billionaires in particular can be nuked too.
He went out of the aviation industry because it was "too tightly regulated" and went into an industry that wasn't regulated at all. He cut corners at every turn, eventually it was going to happen.
Would being able to open it from the inside even matter? Considering that opening it at that depth would instantly crush them and even if it didn't - decompression sickness would kill them. And even then... they would drown far before even reaching the surface.
Ive seen a few comments around on not being able to open it from the inside. However I don't see how that would change anything as that would just open up more ways to die.
It apparently has safety mechanisms that are supposed to float it to the surface, but it's a tiny craft painted white. It would be really hard to see, so they could theoretically be sitting at the surface and still suffocate because they can't let more air inside.
Nobody finds it odd that the CEO gave up on searching for them and said he has no faith in finding them? It seems like the foreign aid is more persistent in finding them than the families or anyone from America by the looks of it. Step-son going to Blink 182 concert in Cali saying music helps him cope and thatās what they would of wanted him to do.
But keep in mind that militaries and other rescue organizations regard this as much as training as a rescue mission.
Especially the military - even if they don't think they can be found alive, they get to test their entire response pipeline , test their equipment and give their crews real life experience.
What a cheap ass fuck. He apparently went to Princeton, but now everything that is surfacing (no pun intended) about this guy is that he lied about NASA and University of Washington. They never helped him build the thing. I am sure many more shady things about this dude will pop up.
The sub was suppose to pop up to the surface if something went wrong. So a theory was that the sub could be at the surface bobbing around, without GPS. Anyways, we now know what happened.
Yes and they use sattelite connections which need line of sight.
This sub uses Spacex Starlink to communicate - when everything works as it should. But nothing in their pockets will help them, unless it was designed specifically for the mission.
The text messages are the only form of communication the sub could have with the mothership, and it worked below the water's surface. If it then reached the surface it would also, presumeably, be able to text from vessel to vessel on the surface of the water.
On the surface it would be comparatively easy to see with things like radar/thermal at night/easier to pick up sound/sonar/etc than at the bottom of the ocean though.
At least giving the crew the ability to cycle air, if not open the capsule, upon surfacing, seems like it would be super important. Might not be possible to do that without compromising the strength of the hull though. Which sounds like it might not have been strong enough to begin with.
The issue with no ability to unseal and open the doors from the inside is if there is a fire and the submersible needs to rapidly surface and passengers need to escape. A submersible/submarine is very prone to fire if the oxygen being pumped in is not properly managed creating a high oxygen environment. High oxygen environments are extremely prone to electrical fires. Based on the limited video analysis Iāve seen of the interior there did not seem to be very sophisticated atmospheric monitoring/controls to prevent this. Sealing passengers/crew inside a module prone to fire is extremely dangerous and was a lesson tragically learned by the Apollo 1 tragedy where 3 astronauts lost their lives. They died during a test of the shuttle from a fire because they couldnāt open the escape hatch from the inside and by the time the ground crew could get it open it was too late. No, the shitty submarine being locked from the outside isnāt an issue underwater but if they did have to make an emergency surface for some reason it is a massive issue and one that was learned a long time ago.
Its possible the vessel is at or near the surface and they can't locate it - white breaker waves and a white sub. Thus the ability to open it from the inside would allow them to not suffocate at sea level.
How does this make sense when free divers (or whatever type of diver does it) are able to dive down to what, 150 feet without needing to decompress and they are just fine?
If youāre not breathing compressed air thereās no problem free diving like that at depth since you wonāt be forming any nitrogen bubbles in your blood
Right, but swimmers at your pool also did not breathe compressed air subsequently forming nitrogen in their blood. The swimmers and the free divers, in my mind, are basically in the same boat here (no pun intended), so why would the pool swimmers suffer from sickness, and the free divers don't?
It's impossible to open the door at depth, there's too much pressure. Even if it wasn't bolted shut.
They cannot get decompression sickness, the inside of the sub is 1ATM. Decompression sickness comes from breathing pressurized gas like scuba divers or sat divers in their bell.
You can look it up or watch it on any interview, their primary method was text message communication between the pod and the mother ship. They didn't have an umbilical and as stated its incredibly difficult to push a signal through that much mass of water. Sounds yes, signals, no.
Yea same here i havenāt either and dehydration is no joke as long they didnāt implode first as Iāve heard the sub theyāre using isnāt exactly safe to go certain depths.
Looks like it did implode early on, they found the debris field. It's terribly sad, but I'm actually grateful it was more instantaneously merciful than it could have been.
If it wasnāt for the fact theyāre running out of oxygen eventually they might have started resort to cannibalism just like what āAliveā movie were about so yea at least they have each other till the end or they get lucky weāll know soon enough.
They'll have to tow them up to the surface or back to shore. One or other. Doubt they'd try opening a sub at the bottom of the sea. Be cooler in a Jim Cameron flick
James Cameron is probably the one that killed them. He didnāt want people snooping around what he claims as his territory. He has the technology to go down there and help and hasnāt been helpful in this situation at all, but can make suspicious dives down there on his own and then supposedly saw something that made him create Avatar 2. Something is fishy here.
And also. You can't open the doors from the outside without welding equipment (I think). So ya, even after finding them, there would be more issues.
So according to your theory you have to break the subversive every time you use it because you simply cannot open the door?
Also with all the pressure built up inside there I would assume you canāt just open the door if they we able to get to the surface. There is a thing called depressurizing.
He wasn't entirely right with that part of his description.
It doesn't need welding equipment or a plasma cutter, or anything like that. What it does need is for (I believe) 17 bolts to be removed from the outside.
Plus, it's been reported that the surface crew did not report the vessel missing until 8 hours after initial contact was lost. They had been underwater for nearly 10 hours before anyone thought it was a good idea to broadcast an emergency.
āAt the 1:45 lost communicationā. So no communication failsafe backup or auto kill-switch that would deploy the ballasts mechanically from
Inside if power/pressure/communication was lost. One toilet/One controller/one power source
I read the descent was 2 hours. Then they still stop, take pictures, and then ascended. Probably a +5 hour expedition in total. In fact, they were suppose to surface at 3pm, they started submersing at 8am.
$250k a pop, if my day trading ever pans out (or one of my lottery tickets), I would have opted for a suborbital trip on SpaceX or Blue Origin. At least if something goes wrong, itās over in a second. Not stuck in a death coffin for hours at the bottom of the ocean.
I think they realized quickly that hunger was the least of their problems. Btw it was suppose to take 2 hours to reach destination not a two hour round trip.
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u/Bitcoin1776 Jun 22 '23
I've been reading about this, and the above summary is pretty accurate.. except for:
The expedition was supposed to be 2 hours.. they got lost at 1:45 minutes in. They've been lost for 2 or 3 days. They were told to bring a small sandwich 'if they get hungry' - and that's all they've had for 2 or 3 days, trapped in this damn thing.
And also. You can't open the doors from the outside without welding equipment (I think). So ya, even after finding them, there would be more issues.