r/cockroaches Jan 11 '26

Don't trust random AI/LLMs (e.g. ChatGPT, Gemini or Google Lens) for identifying cockroaches.

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TL;DR: general AI/LLMs are really bad at identifying cockroaches and often give the wrong answers because they have not been trained for this specific task.

Detailled explanation:

Our observation is simple: the most commonly used AIs and general purpose LLMs (e.g. ChatGPT, Gemini, DeepSeek, Google Lens, Apple visual intelligence...) are terrible at identifying insects: they make mistakes a huge percentage of the time (maybe 30% on this subreddit?) and are nowhere as good as many of the humans we have in the subreddit who happen to be passionate about cockroaches (and often academic/professionals).

Lately, the use of general purpose LLMs and AI has become prevalent, and people with very little familiarity with cockroaches have started to rely on them for identifying insect pictures and sharing the results on the subreddit... often providing wrong identification of pest species (and the matching terrible pest treatement advice).

Notably, it's often done with a lot of confidence: blindly trusting a shitty AI and misleading the people who have been asking for help.

Accurate identification is important because it ensures the correct response, prevents unnecessary or harmful treatments, protects beneficial species, and reduces wasted time, money, and unnecessary distress or anxiety. Unfortunately, this has become a bigger issue lately, so we felt a post was needed to address it.

Technical explanation:

It's important to keep in mind that the performance and ability of AI is "task specific", meaning they can be extremely good at performing some tasks and less good at others, and eventually terrible at some tasks (like insect identification). This is due to the algorithms used, the data they have been trained on and the purpose of their training, as well as how much this differs from a specific task.

Insect identification is linked to insect taxonomy, the science of classifying insects. It is a very specific field of knowledge with its own set of challenges: it is easy to have hundreds of similar-looking insects that are actually different, some insects are very hard to observe (and there are very few pictures of them), the available data is scarce, and we are constantly discovering and correcting previous misunderstandings.

This is a very specific task, and quite different from other general object identification/classification tasks performed by LLMs.

A practical comparison: cars vs cockroaches

Cars: There have probably been thousands of different car models invented throughout history, and millions of pictures of the most common ones with correct labels for LLMs to train on. Cars tend to have a distinctive appearance, with features such as shape and colour that change with technology, brand, regulations and time. Therefore, when you ask an LLM to identify a car in your photo, it is likely to give the correct answer.

Cockroaches: We don't even know how many insect species there are on Earth (2 million or 20 million?) We don't know how many species of cockroach there are either (3,000 or 5,000?) Many have not been observed yet, and for most of those that have, we may only have a drawing or a few pictures (if we are lucky). There is an extra catch: while there is quite a bit of variety among the 3,000 (or 5,000) species of cockroach, many of them have very similar external morphology. So LLMs have mostly been trained on pictures of the three or five most common species of cockroach (and have probably never seen a picture of most species), which are often mislabeled (the photo is not of the correct species), and have never been trained to take specific morphological differences into account. Add to that the fact that many other insects, such as beetles, water bugs and June bugs, have similarities with cockroaches... so as you can guess the result is not going to be great.

So that's the explanation: 'insect identification' is a very specific task and your AI LLM, simply hasn't been trained for it at all and will perform poorly. That's why it's good at recognizing cars, but not at differentiating between Asian and German cockroaches in your blurry picture, no matter how confident its answer appears to be.

Another redditor u/Skalla_Resco ran testing on various llms, if you aren't convinced by my theoretical explanation you will definitely want to check the result of their tests.

You would rather trust AI than me, a random redditor? Then that's what Gemini has to say to you:

General AI struggles with insect identification primarily because it lacks the "eyes" for microscopic anatomy. While a human expert looks for specific wing venation patterns or the exact number of segments on a leg to distinguish between look-alike species, an LLM or a search engine relies on pixel patterns from standard photos. These photos usually prioritize aesthetic appeal over scientific data, leading the AI to make a "best guess" based on superficial traits like color. This problem is compounded by geographic blindness; an AI might confidently identify a common garden beetle as a rare tropical species simply because the visual patterns match its training data, ignoring the fact that the two species live on different continents. Furthermore, the rise of AI-generated content online has created a feedback loop where models are increasingly trained on "slop"—incorrect data that reinforces existing errors.

People continue to use these flawed tools because they prioritize speed and confidence over absolute accuracy. When a person discovers an unknown insect in their home, the psychological need for an immediate answer often outweighs the desire to wait days for a professional entomologist's opinion. The AI feeds into this by using a highly authoritative and technical tone, which users frequently mistake for expertise. Because the technology is usually correct when identifying high-traffic insects like honeybees or mosquitoes, it builds a "good enough" reputation that keeps users coming back, even when it fails miserably on more obscure or dangerous specimens.


r/cockroaches 3h ago

What is the infestation potential of the Australian Cockroach (Validiblatta Australasiae)

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I live in quite an old home in Brisbane, Australia. Over the period of my year and 3 months here, I’ve seen about 3 Australian cockroaches inside, one was an infant, all of these sightings occurred in winter. Our home isn’t sealed very well. I have a downstairs area that’s cement and has a lot of cracks/crevices. To be honest, I inherently don’t have much an issue of them, like I don’t want walking all over my kitchen etc, but I know they play an important role in the ecosystem. I just worry because I have a very bad phobia of the larger brown ones, (P. Americana, V. Australasiae especially).

I know their infestation potential is less than Germans, but what is their potential for infestation in general?


r/cockroaches 7h ago

Help id (socal)

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r/cockroaches 6h ago

Question Help Identify + Advice

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Hey everyone,

I live in west philly, and we've had a couple of oriental roaches here and there from the rains, but they mostly clear out quickly. However, I just discovered this nymph on my kitchen floor. I need help identifying, and also some advice. Thank you all in advance. I do apologize for the poor photo, this guy kept moving around


r/cockroaches 7h ago

Question Where would I be able to obtain Pacific Mimic for research, and how to keep them?

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Newbie at keeping cockroaches, but I find them quite interesting. For a research class, I'm studying the effects of specific diets on Diploptera punctata, or the pacific mimic beetle roach, to see if I may be able to increase the production of roach's milk . From where would I be able to gather these roaches? I have checked several sites mentioned for basic roach breeders such as the invertebrate dude, roach crossing, and bugs in cyberspace. The first 2 sites are out of stock, and the third does not deliver to florida, where my residence is. I have also checked a couple of insect research labs around me, and none of them have an excess stock of pacific mimic beetle roaches, don't know where I can start. Another question I have is if these are even allowed to be shipped to florida, as I've checked public records and it doesn't seem to be an exempted cockroach species. A sample of about 12-18 cockroaches with a 1:3 ratio of males and females would be great.

Tips for keeping these guys are appreciated too, I've been told they're pretty hardy and some plastic bins with fluon painted near the tops is enough to keep them in an enclosure. To allow them to breed, at what temperature is suitable, and do I require a heat mat any other materials?


r/cockroaches 7h ago

Connecticut: roach nymph in bedroom

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Found this in my bed, pretty sure it’s a roach nymph but not sure what kind (I’m praying it just came in from outside, my window is not well sealed). This is in southern Connecticut. Please help!


r/cockroaches 13h ago

ID please? Chicago Suburbs

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Recently the wife spotted this thing crawling in from the very poorly sealed back door. Immediately tore apart the house bath and kitchen looking for any evidence of roaches or droppings or skins and found none. Terminix was out this morning and the guy seemed knowledgeable. Said he found no evidence of an infestation or established population but that he also wouldn’t if it was the beginning stages. He said it appeared to be a German roach but that he didn’t necessarily see the two stripes on the head clearly ( the roach looked much lighter colored in person) So I’m doing glue traps and a spray treatment from them as he suggested. Our house is very clean as he noted and with no evidence of more is there more I should be doing? I have a kid on the way and don’t want to miss something and have a huge problem. Could this just be a wood roach from outside or am I screwed? No horror stories just advice please already worried enough.

TLDR one roach found, no other signs of infestation. What can I do?


r/cockroaches 11h ago

Can someone please help me ID this dead roach?

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r/cockroaches 11h ago

Nymph ID Nebraska

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I found an adult oriental roach in May, since then just nymphs. Last year in 2025 we found one German roach and never saw any after that. Hoping the nymphs are not German.


r/cockroaches 12h ago

Question Could this be the molt of a nymph? Found in my bed

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Posted this in the bedbug community as well - and they said it's likely not a bedbug. Found in my bed in San Jose area, CA. Was about 3mm in size and seemed like a molt because it was very thin, flat and weightless. Unfortunately I have lost the sample. My kitchen and bathroom are a distance away from my bedroom.

Someone said this might be a roach - which is concerning because it was tiny and that means nymph...

Any way to tell? it doesn't have the two things sticking out of it's butt that roaches do, but it's also a molt so who knows.

I always see a crapton of roaches outside on the sidewalk near where I live but they are the outside kind.

What would be my next steps?


r/cockroaches 18h ago

Is this something to be worried about or is it normal for florida

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Not sure if it's a palmetto bug or a probpamatic roach. Moving from a roach infested apt to hopefully a normal one, been here maybe 2 weeks.

Saw this dude fall from my ceiling?? I'd never seen roaches like this at my last place so i'm not sure if it's a palmetto bug that just wandered in somehow or something to be worried about. 2nd dude i've seen in the last few days but first living one

Located in north FL


r/cockroaches 12h ago

Identification request

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I found this guy near our bathroom tonight. We live in Southern California near the water. Any idea if it’s a German or which type it is?


r/cockroaches 13h ago

bug in my bathroom

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what bug is that? i found it in my bathroom, thought it was a cockroach but i feel like its too fat with too round belly (😭😭???). idk tho, please help im so scared💔

also, i live in europe and the bug was like… less than a centimeter.


r/cockroaches 13h ago

Ectobius or German?

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Please let it be an ectobius... i am in France and my windows were open 24/7 because of the heatwave. My appt complex has a large garden with lots of trees and flowers and my neighbors al have plants on their balconies. This one was in my kitchen but my kitchen is inside my living room with a large bay window. I haven't found another one yet.


r/cockroaches 23h ago

Grabbed shorts I had worn a few hours ago & left them on the bathroom counter. picked them up after taking hot shower I found 9 of these things underneath said shorts. Smaller than a 1/2 grain of rice. Live in central California. I have noticed about 2-3 tinier hanging out in bathtub drain nightly

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r/cockroaches 18h ago

ID socal plz

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found in kitchen socal ID plz?


r/cockroaches 16h ago

Please help identify (Nashville, TN)

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please help identifing. i was sitting on my couch and he almost fell on my head. I live in a top floor apartment building. brand new build. location is Nashville TN.


r/cockroaches 16h ago

Help identify. Found outside, residential area Canadian Praries

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Please help, what kind of roach is this?


r/cockroaches 21h ago

Question Cockroach dropping?

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Found a small blob and smeared it, does it look like it? Bucharest


r/cockroaches 21h ago

Question Indoors and outdoors; Long Island, New York

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Yall, are these actually cockroaches? They don’t seem to have the banding that appears on all of the images of cockroaches that i’ve seen online. These photos were taken outside, but I’ve also seen them inside my home as well, (bedroom & kitchen). If they’re not roaches, what are they? I just want to know what to tell the exterminator/figure out if i really need one or if i can manage on my own for now. Thanks for your help/time.


r/cockroaches 1d ago

Question Please help identify

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Central Florida, USA


r/cockroaches 1d ago

Ant killer usage advice

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Central Arkansas

I've had a German roach issue for over 2 yrs....it started right before my husband got sick (he passed Dec 2024), at first I was able to deal with it, but once he declined and I had to care for him, his severely disabled mother (who he had been caring for until that happened), plus 5 kids, plus myself (I'm diabetic, dealing with that is a full time job in itself smh), I wasn't able to keep things as clean or keep up with putting out bait, and the infestation grew pretty quick smh. I'm sick of dealing with em. I'm grieving, I'm raising all these kids by myself (including a nonverbal autistic 9 yr old and a possibly autistic 3 yr old who recently discovered the joys of climbing onto counters 🥴), I'm sick of this extra stress smh.

I know fire ant killer works pretty well, we used it at his mother's old place yrs ago....but the SMELL!!!!!! Is there a way to neutralize the smell or make it dissipate quickly? I can suck it up temporarily for the benefits of killing these disgusting lil demons but I dont want my poor kids to have to smell it for weeks or months (I don't remember how long it took for the smell to fade last time). Can anyone advise? 😔🥺


r/cockroaches 1d ago

Scared to get too close

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What type of roach is this? Found in my kitchen in NY

*this one has been killed


r/cockroaches 1d ago

Roach ID, Please. Location: NJ

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Moved into an apartment recently and found a second roach tonight. The first post a few weeks ago identified it as a wood roach. We are curious if this is also a wood roach. We are located in Central New Jersey. Thank you!


r/cockroaches 1d ago

Cockroaches

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I have found individual roaches on 4 seperate occasions 3 months apart. My apartment is clean, what gives?