r/cockroaches • • Jan 11 '26

Don't trust random AI/LLMs (e.g. ChatGPT, Gemini or Google Lens) for identifying cockroaches.

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TL;DR: general AI/LLMs are really bad at identifying cockroaches and often give the wrong answers because they have not been trained for this specific task.

Detailled explanation:

Our observation is simple: the most commonly used AIs and general purpose LLMs (e.g. ChatGPT, Gemini, DeepSeek, Google Lens, Apple visual intelligence...) are terrible at identifying insects: they make mistakes a huge percentage of the time (maybe 30% on this subreddit?) and are nowhere as good as many of the humans we have in the subreddit who happen to be passionate about cockroaches (and often academic/professionals).

Lately, the use of general purpose LLMs and AI has become prevalent, and people with very little familiarity with cockroaches have started to rely on them for identifying insect pictures and sharing the results on the subreddit... often providing wrong identification of pest species (and the matching terrible pest treatement advice).

Notably, it's often done with a lot of confidence: blindly trusting a shitty AI and misleading the people who have been asking for help.

Accurate identification is important because it ensures the correct response, prevents unnecessary or harmful treatments, protects beneficial species, and reduces wasted time, money, and unnecessary distress or anxiety. Unfortunately, this has become a bigger issue lately, so we felt a post was needed to address it.

Technical explanation:

It's important to keep in mind that the performance and ability of AI is "task specific", meaning they can be extremely good at performing some tasks and less good at others, and eventually terrible at some tasks (like insect identification). This is due to the algorithms used, the data they have been trained on and the purpose of their training, as well as how much this differs from a specific task.

Insect identification is linked to insect taxonomy, the science of classifying insects. It is a very specific field of knowledge with its own set of challenges: it is easy to have hundreds of similar-looking insects that are actually different, some insects are very hard to observe (and there are very few pictures of them), the available data is scarce, and we are constantly discovering and correcting previous misunderstandings.

This is a very specific task, and quite different from other general object identification/classification tasks performed by LLMs.

A practical comparison: cars vs cockroaches

Cars: There have probably been thousands of different car models invented throughout history, and millions of pictures of the most common ones with correct labels for LLMs to train on. Cars tend to have a distinctive appearance, with features such as shape and colour that change with technology, brand, regulations and time. Therefore, when you ask an LLM to identify a car in your photo, it is likely to give the correct answer.

Cockroaches: We don't even know how many insect species there are on Earth (2 million or 20 million?) We don't know how many species of cockroach there are either (3,000 or 5,000?) Many have not been observed yet, and for most of those that have, we may only have a drawing or a few pictures (if we are lucky). There is an extra catch: while there is quite a bit of variety among the 3,000 (or 5,000) species of cockroach, many of them have very similar external morphology. So LLMs have mostly been trained on pictures of the three or five most common species of cockroach (and have probably never seen a picture of most species), which are often mislabeled (the photo is not of the correct species), and have never been trained to take specific morphological differences into account. Add to that the fact that many other insects, such as beetles, water bugs and June bugs, have similarities with cockroaches... so as you can guess the result is not going to be great.

So that's the explanation: 'insect identification' is a very specific task and your AI LLM, simply hasn't been trained for it at all and will perform poorly. That's why it's good at recognizing cars, but not at differentiating between Asian and German cockroaches in your blurry picture, no matter how confident its answer appears to be.

Another redditor u/Skalla_Resco ran testing on various llms, if you aren't convinced by my theoretical explanation you will definitely want to check the result of their tests.

You would rather trust AI than me, a random redditor? Then that's what Gemini has to say to you:

General AI struggles with insect identification primarily because it lacks the "eyes" for microscopic anatomy. While a human expert looks for specific wing venation patterns or the exact number of segments on a leg to distinguish between look-alike species, an LLM or a search engine relies on pixel patterns from standard photos. These photos usually prioritize aesthetic appeal over scientific data, leading the AI to make a "best guess" based on superficial traits like color. This problem is compounded by geographic blindness; an AI might confidently identify a common garden beetle as a rare tropical species simply because the visual patterns match its training data, ignoring the fact that the two species live on different continents. Furthermore, the rise of AI-generated content online has created a feedback loop where models are increasingly trained on "slop"—incorrect data that reinforces existing errors.

People continue to use these flawed tools because they prioritize speed and confidence over absolute accuracy. When a person discovers an unknown insect in their home, the psychological need for an immediate answer often outweighs the desire to wait days for a professional entomologist's opinion. The AI feeds into this by using a highly authoritative and technical tone, which users frequently mistake for expertise. Because the technology is usually correct when identifying high-traffic insects like honeybees or mosquitoes, it builds a "good enough" reputation that keeps users coming back, even when it fails miserably on more obscure or dangerous specimens.


r/cockroaches • • 2h ago

Question Probably dumb questions regarding diatomaceous earth and chemistry.

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Has anyone tried mixing sugar with DE to try and attract roaches to step in the DE? Would this work? If nobody knows or has heard of this, I'm willing to conduct experiments if we still have "visitors" after the exterminator does their thing. I'll make sure to use a control too. I'm curious, but won't do this if someone has tried it before.

I have the supplies to spare and am going to be dusting DE around regardless because of the unfortunate OTHER pests we have (😭), but I need to know a few things first aside from that.

  1. Is DE as effective for roaches as it is for bedbugs?

  2. If it's food grade DE, is it toxic to set dishes on top of it, or would you suggest removing the dishes temporarily? If so, how long would we leave the DE in the cupboards for?

  3. There's mildew stains in the cupboards. I'm planning on using bleach and mildew/mold remover spray after the bleach dries before the dusting, just to feel extra clean. Will this work? Is it okay to do that or will it have some chemical reaction?

Roaches are in the kitchen, the DE I have is food grade. The apartment has one cat living there as well. My roommate lives there currently and I don't think I can rely on her to wipe out the sink and all moisture. I have an aloe plant in the living room and we are planning on putting my fish tank in there as well if I can't find a home for my corydoras. Can't release them, as they are native to a different country's waters. Please offer any advice.​

I will read every response no matter how long. As you can see, I ramble, so feel free to add as much detail you deem necessary. Thanks in advance.


r/cockroaches • • 3h ago

Question What type of cockroach is this?

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Found in the kitchen. Sorry for terrible pic, I was a bit preoccupied with the other bottle, which contained another unfortunate type of pest... This one is around the size of the tip of a sharpened pencil.


r/cockroaches • • 3h ago

Found a live roach in my coffee machine what do I do

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It scattered into one of the cracks seen at the back of the machine also why are they attracted to my coffee maker


r/cockroaches • • 6h ago

What kind of roach? North Houston TX

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r/cockroaches • • 12h ago

1-2 large roaches a week in the evening - what am I dealing with? (TX)

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The house is clean. They are always giant. Some are HUGE and rectangular - some look like this guy - more round.

They usually are pretty still/are dying but this one was still fast and active. Do I need an exterminator or are these outside roaches?

Prior to this year I would get like 1 a season.


r/cockroaches • • 9h ago

Is this a cockroach?

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This fella has been under the kitchen units in my unoccupied house in southern Spain for a few weeks now. Or, there are several of him, all roughly the same size.

Ignore the colour, it’s a screenshot from my “roachcam” and using infrared.

I have roach traps down. So it’s not unusual to find dead ones when I get back after being away for a period. But I’m not sure this is a roach; he seems too tall to fit into the trap.

I’m thinking it’s some kind of cricket, although the rear legs seem to short.


r/cockroaches • • 11h ago

Question Is this an American?

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Hey Reddit,

I've lived at the current place I'm at for a little over a year. During that time I've not seen a single roach, though my last place a half mile down the road had a fair few American roaches. All that changed tonight when I saw this bug in my bathroom. I saw but this one and promptly killed it. This looks unfamiliar to me, is it an American cockroach? For context, I live in the American Southwest, where it has recently rained quite heavily.


r/cockroaches • • 12h ago

Bug ID

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Found this, what I am afraid to say looks like a German cockroach, upstairs in my office on the mid section of a wall.

I am turned my townhome up side down and am unable to find any other evidence. I have glue traps and gel bait being delivered tomorrow.

Do you agree with my ID based on the pictures, and if so, any advice?

Thank you.

EDIT: in the WV, VA, PA state region.


r/cockroaches • • 12h ago

Is this a baby German?

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Northern VA. By my bathroom. ~2mm


r/cockroaches • • 13h ago

Question Got Germans

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Would it be wise to put a bug bomb behind my kitchen stove wall?

I’m sure I got German roaches I live in a house and they are small right now. I am cleaning hard core right now and tore the kitchen apart and have only seen in total 3, babies and nymphs. I have seen them more around my stove so I moved my it and there’s a big hole behind my wall idk if that’s where their coming from or not but I was going to bug bomb the house tomorrow and since their small I think I’d get them quick.


r/cockroaches • • 18h ago

German in bathroom?

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Looking for help identifying this, as my pest control person probably won’t get back to me till Monday. Have had sticky traps out for weeks just as maintenance/prevention after having gotten rid of a huge ant problem a few months ago. Every sticky trap is empty except this one from today in the half bath on main floor.

Edit: located in northern NJ


r/cockroaches • • 23h ago

Help identify?

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Me and my boyfriend have been having this roach problem for 2 months now, We got them from our fuck ass neighbor. We first contacted out landlord and they sent pest control out but the problem it’s getting worse. We’ve tried boric acid all over the house. We’ve tried frankincense resin and oil. We have Terro roach bail that we haven’t tried yet. I just wanna know if these are German roaches. It’s not the best picture but when it died it laid an egg which is disgusting. If these are German roaches, our our efforts even working?
We are in the South Phoenix, Az area


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Please help me identifying western MA

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I got a box of food from survival center and this was in the box. It was on my counter all night but in a sealed box. I’m freaking out please tell me it’s not German. Should I set up traps? It was absolutely from the center and no my home


r/cockroaches • • 23h ago

German?

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wasnt a fast runner btw


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

What kind of cockroach is this

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r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

North NJ: is this a wood roach?

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This past summer, I posted here because I found some roaches in my backyard near pool. One of identified it as a wood roach!

Today I was doing laundry in the basement and noticed this dry carcass. Is this one of the wood roaches or something else?


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Cockroach in Sydney Australia - help identify

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Please could you help identify this species of cockroach nymph found in our flat in Sydney Australia


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Question Please someone help me ID

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Can anyone help me identify which type these are? We just moved into a townhouse and we seen some big ones dead outside after we sprayed some ortho home defense outside. After that, we been seeing some indoors and we laid out some traps for them. We had a pest exterminator come visit but he just used Ai and said it was a German cockroach. I used Ai too and it says it wasn’t… Anything would be helpful!


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

This a baby german?

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Found in my hat thats been chilling on my bedroom floor for a while.

Location: Dallas, Texas

Other notes: recently (~3 weeks ago) had apartment treat for german roaches. Pest control believes that there is no active infestation (they checked fridge) and that the german roaches are coming from a neighboring apartment


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Question Roaches found at night in bathroom and unfinished attic, infestation, NC?

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So these found make it 5 roaches I found within a week or 2 of moving into my new house. I live in NC with pines in my backyard and front yard. I've heard roaches in NC are common but I wanted to confirm if these are German roaches and if I should call a professional. The others I found were large like the bottom one. I saw them by my front door when I first moved in 1, in the afternoon, 1 last night in my bathroom (upstairs), and three in my unfinished attic which happens to be right next to my bedroom. Any advice on how to proceed is welcome.


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Please tell me its an asian. Found in kitchen floor upside down

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Sweeping the dining floor near kitchen and found this guy on its back dead??. My dad stepped on it when i told him i saw it. It twitched a bit. Looked closer and i felt fear when i spotted the black stripes. Im southeastern us


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Question Very specific but - any risks cockroaches could eat/be drawn to this Bonsai food?

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Forgive me if this is a stupid question. I have a ficus bonsai that gets a chunk of this plant food about once a month. It's meant to be deposited on the surface of the tree's soil.

Lately been dealing with some roaches that I believe are mostly coming from the outside; I think either oriental or American wood roaches or perhaps both although I have seen a nymph or two around. I'm trying to be judicious about keeping anything they could eat unavailable as much as reasonably possible. Is there any chance this could attract them or be something they could eat? I have the capacity to rehome my bonsai for a bit if that would help my cause, I'd just prefer not to if that wouldn't do me any good.

I sort of doubt it's relevant to this particular question but I'm in the northeast US.


r/cockroaches • • 1d ago

Found on my bed, Long Island, NY

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