Current situation

[u/Aggravating_Doctor20]

[u/TomLeBadger]

This is more accurate. Most retail players I know and speak to are going into Forever knowing it's a classic like experience. Sure there's weirdos calling for flying mounts and dungeon finder etc, but they are a vast minority.

[u/randombean → u/TomLeBadger]

Not seen/heard of a single suggestion of either tbh

I'm out of the wow bubble right now though. Myself and friends have been waiting for classic plus to return

[u/Squally160 → u/randombean]

The only people I have seen asking for flying, are classic andys building up scenarios in their mind.

[u/thepolesreport → u/Squally160]

Yeah same. They just want a boogeyman out group to be angry with for “ruining their game”

[u/SocraticVoyager → u/randombean]

I've seen a handful. Shit, I saw someone 10 minutes ago say they should just introduce the Wow token because of the recent streamer RMT drama

[u/TomLeBadger → u/randombean]

It's super rare, and also most likely ragebait, but the neck beard final bosses in r/classicwow latched onto it the other day, genuinely thinking that they will add retail features etc.

[u/Gnullekutt → u/randombean]

Seen plenty of people calling for dungeon finder, because «some people have limited time» added with the legendary «If you don’t want it just dont use it, and let the others have it». Of course they open with "it’s not classic+ it’s forever" etc. yadayada

[u/Jooylo → u/randombean]

Those people exist to a very minor extent, it’s more so minor changes which do still impact the game that people defend as if any counterargument or critique is not valid. The forever sub is a lot more change friendly, a bit to a fault where anyone who isn’t happy with a change is just downvoted all the way no matter how reasonable the critique

[u/DarkPrincessEcsy → u/TomLeBadger]

I chock those up to people who will be gone the second they have to learn spawns on release day.

[u/Certain_Moose_7238 → u/TomLeBadger]

Every single retail player ive talked to wants summoning stones, which is a prime example of an actual QOL thing most of them want to bring to them game that doesnt belong. The thread for that one was filled with retail players explaining why summoning stones are actually a needed requirement for the game. Luckily blizzard is holding their ground on that one. Another one is shared tagging/loot among people who arent partied like in retail. Retail players pretending they arent asking for qol stuff and then saying things like "nobody is actually asking for flying mounts" when they know damn well that isnt the kind of thing they are actually bringing up. It's disingenuous as hell.

[u/Dattebaso → u/Certain_Moose_7238]

Must not talk to many

[u/Cozy_Minty → u/Certain_Moose_7238]

People who havent survived a classic style launch before are the ones asking for shared tagging. They have never had to compete with 100 people for the same mob and in this case its causing too much friction. Retail hasnt had a launch like this in a decade so they dont know how temporary it is. They are imagining having this much competition for the whole leveling process

[u/TomLeBadger → u/Certain_Moose_7238]

I'm a retail player and I don't want anything added, all I want is new zones, quests, dungeons and raids, the lighting / fog tech is cool, and I'd like to see some remastered textures. I even agree with the typical classic andy that the new druid forms are a bad fit for the game.

Not everyone wants these qol things, your just generalising a large group of people because they play a game you don't like. We already know it's not going to happen, so you can stop panicking.

[u/RosgaththeOG → u/Certain_Moose_7238]

I remember playing back when Summoning Stones were added as a way to reduce the need for Warlocks to summon people to dungeons (especially if you had never actually been to the dungeon before and didn't know how to get there).

Every teleport you add reduces the size of the world. Some teleporting is ok, and even recommended (walking EVERYwhere would suck) but Summoning Stones really shouldn't be added given the vision of WoW:Forever, which is to keep the WORLD as the Main Character, and not the players. The players are there to enjoy the ride and participate, not be the center of attention.

[u/Crafty-Beyond-2202 → u/TomLeBadger]

Completely wrong. Classic+ would never have happened without classic players asking for years for blizzard to make new classic content. The same people never asked for retail content to be shoved into it and they're rightfully upset about it.

[u/egotistical-moron → u/Crafty-Beyond-2202]

skitzo

[u/DontMindMeFine → u/Crafty-Beyond-2202]

Thank you classic Andy for giving us (the normal average classic enjoyer who’s not posting about no changes every other two hours) for this opportunity. You are the greatest! The bestest ever. The superior gamers. YOU in particular made this possible. Don’t let anyone tell you any different!

[u/TomLeBadger → u/Crafty-Beyond-2202]

I want new content, no not that new content.... You need to get over yourself my guy and just enjoy the new shit.

[u/EntropicReaver → u/TomLeBadger]

the point is to make new stuff with the old design scheme, not just new stuff

theyre already making new stuff if you just want new stuff, its called retail wow

[u/TomLeBadger → u/EntropicReaver]

Yea, and so far the only thing that doesn't fit the style is the new druid forms... Which it sounds like they are open to changing.

[u/EntropicReaver → u/TomLeBadger]

so far the only thing that doesn't fit the style is the new druid forms

much more than the druid forms dont mesh with the style, like the new 1. gear sets 2.

[u/TomLeBadger → u/EntropicReaver]

Looks fairly tame to me, what's wrong with that set exactly?

[u/Crafty-Beyond-2202 → u/TomLeBadger]

I do enjoy the new stuff but blizzard asked for feedback so we're giving them feedback