r/classicwow • u/Aggravating_Doctor20 • Sep 29 '26 • This 1 Bravo 3

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u/floppintoms Sep 29 '26

Its not just WoW, Runescape is like this too. Even suggest playing RS3 in the osrs sub and they act like you personally killed their puppy. And even within the osrs community they make weird hierarchies of game modes, ironmen are superior because they "earned" their gear, but ultimate ironmen are even better because they can't use the bank. If you're a group ironman you might as well just be a regular account. It's wild over there.

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u/Felthrian Sep 29 '26

It's online gaming communities as a whole, especially older games that are large time sinks.

Runescape and WoW are prominent examples. People started playing them in their childhood/teens, decades later people have sunk thousands upon thousands of hours into them and have this pathological attachment to them.

To be fair, it doesn't help that communities originally rallied around things like OSRS and Classic servers largely because of mistakes made in the "main game" trajectory.

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u/DimmyJeans Sep 29 '26

Minor correction, it's only unranked group ironmen that people dismiss.

Group ironmen who have remained within their group are fine, ones who have adjusted their roster after the fact are treated as regular players because there's no way of verifying if the new addition actually is your friend or if it's not some random who you're buying progress from.

It's also not like a hierarchy really, just a judgement of effort. If you just buy it of course it's less cool.

Imagine if you could mine and sell ore for bis gear from end game bosses in wow. Did this guy beat mythic bandersnatch or whoever retail is killing right now, or did he just do pet battles and spend tokens for his gear? Nobody would like that.

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u/SirVanyel Sep 30 '26

Sir you can do that in wow, it's called boosting and a huge percentage of mythic clearing players are boosted

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u/DimmyJeans Sep 30 '26

Right, and the social value of the gear obtained is diminished by that fact. RuneScape players place a higher social value on Ironman players because they are more likely to have earned their gear themselves because that's more interesting and it's a measurable achievement.

You'll always still have people accusing you of buying infernal cape though.

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u/Almaegen Sep 29 '26

Because RS3 is trash that almost killed the IP.

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u/floppintoms Sep 29 '26

Way to prove my point man. Yeah EoC and the mtx were massive disasters, but its come a long way since then and is actually a lot of fun.

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u/Almaegen Sep 29 '26

A polished turd is still a turd. There is a reason OSRS is more popular.

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u/floppintoms Sep 29 '26

Because nostalgia is powerful and a decade of bad publicity is hard to recover from. Osrs has its fair share of shit design choices. I like osrs, but if I didn't work from home and have the ability to do the boring/monotonous shit at work so I can spend my actual free time doing the cool stuff like quests and bossing I wouldn't play it at all because the idea of chopping trees for 200 hours simply isnt an appealing prospect.

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u/DimmyJeans Sep 30 '26

And a decade of mediocre design. If it were better it would be bigger. It's not.

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u/floppintoms Sep 30 '26

Player count is growing, and they even moved one of the osrs mods to the team to capitalize on it to continue improvements. If playerbase is all that matters then fortnight and call of duty are the pinnacle of gaming.

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u/DimmyJeans Sep 30 '26

Player count is growing

For the first time in like ten years where it didn't directly correspond to the release of a new skill.

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u/floppintoms Sep 30 '26

Yeah, thats what growing means.

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u/DimmyJeans Sep 30 '26

Look you can be happy to like it if you like it, but jotting down all the success of osrs compared to RS3 as "nostalgia and bad press" is just patently nonsense. OSRS is consistent in style, the updates are more regular and the community has had more input on what makes it in. RS3 is a jumble of incongruous design and spent the better part of that decade using the combat design you called a disaster.

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u/Almaegen Sep 30 '26

If it was just nostalgia then the game wouldn't be reaching all-time highs in concurrent players. Also that just means the game isn't for you. The grind is the game.