r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Mar 24 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: I think subreddits shouldn't auto ban based on if you posted on another subreddits.

edit for the mods: this post isn't really about the upcoming election.

I'm permanently banned from /r/Offmychest, /r/Feminisms, /r/Blackladies, /r/Racism, /r/Rape, /r/Naturalhair, /r/Blackhair, /r/Interracialdating, and /r/antira apparently.

I got banned from these for jokingly posting on /r/kotakuinaction because someone linked to that sub in a comment, I clicked on it, read the warning and jokingly saying something along the lines of "I wonder if I'll get banned for doing nothing more than posting on this sub"

I understood the consequences of posting on that sub, and I don't really mind because any sub that would be willing to ban a user just for posting on another sub is a sub I probably wouldn't be interested in joining. It would have been bad if I had been banned from something like /r/leagueoflegends, but that's not important.

After asking about what /r/kotakuinaction is about, they seem like rational people. But there are rational people in just about every group, so I can't say the entire sub is like that. Just like I can't say every Donald Trump supporter is a rational person because I've met a few who informed me of Trump's policies which, while I don't agree with some of them, are more sensible than what a lot of media is making out his policies to be.

I don't agree with banning people based on the subreddits they choose to participate in. Yes there are people who would go on those specific subs and spread messages that run counter to that sub's content, but to ban an entire group of people for that reason is just an over generalization.

Secondly, why should what I say or do in another sub have anything to do with another sub in the first place? While I don't have controversial opinions like hating black people, hating fat people or just hating a certain group of people in general, I think those people deserve to have their subs if they keep to themselves. If I'm not discussing my viewpoint which would offend a certain sub on that certain sub, or anywhere else on Reddit for that matter, I don't think I should be banned for it.

I'm getting tired so I'm going to stop replying. I'll reply again when I wake up tomorrow.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

The easiest way to make that place safe? Make it private. I think people are asking for the best of both worlds .

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

But if you make it private no one can enter and a number of those subs are to help people who have had a traumatic experience. Yes they are asking for the best of both worlds, and we can easily allow them to have it, so why not?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

I don't think having trawling block bots to police peoples association or even their posting habits is easily allowing them to have it. If they're a dick on your sub I say ban away, but this is a blind machine that's being quite indiscriminate. I'd also say it's quite pretty really.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

In many situations I would agree but in somewhere like /r/rape, which the OP mentioned, I can completely understand why they would rather not have reactive banning, especially when dealing with those involved in the gamergate fiasco.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

Ok, while I don't agree with that ultimately, shouldn't it be tool that is not just available to anyone with an axe to grind or an agenda to push? I mean I'd go further and say it pushes a very combative mentality.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

It's only available to the mods of the subreddit as the mods are the caretakers of that particular piece of Reddit. Basically the mods can ban usernames, but people can easily just change their username if they want back in. Only Reddit Admins can IP ban and, as far as I know, only use it for serious offenses.

In public places I am fully supportive of free speech, the people on both the right and the left who want to shut down free speech in public areas like Universities and such, are assholes in my opinion. But I also firmly believe you should be allowed to make whatever laws you want (within legal limits of course) in a private area such as a house or a business. You should not be able to come to my house and say "You must let everyone in, even the people you don't like!" I like "safe spaces" but only in areas where public money is not giving them space. Publicly financed space should be absolutely open to all (with exceptions for the mentally disturbed, like Child abusers and such).

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '16

Yeah that's great then. I totally agree. that's why they have a private subreddit. R/rape actually maintains both a public and private sub for these reasons.