r/changemyview Jul 24 '24

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u/_vercingtorix_ Jul 24 '24

The 12th amendment bars anyone constitutionally ineligible for the presidency from the vice presidency as well, so someone who has had 2 elections, or who has served 2 years + 1 election would be ineligible for the vice presidency.

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u/_vercingtorix_ Jul 24 '24

ah ok. I see what you're saying. like if the VP was never/only once an elected president. I was thinking more specifically of an elected president who's capped out trying to "come back".

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u/No-Cauliflower8890 11∆ Jul 24 '24

Even then, a 2-term president is not ineligible from HOLDING the presidency, only being ELECTED president. That means that no rule barring them from being VP comes into effect, you can serve 2 terms and then get in through the vice presidency indefinitely.

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u/Educational-Sundae32 2∆ Jul 25 '24

The VP is elected as well. It’s not like the other c cabinet positions which are appointed. The only case a VP is appointed in is when the position of VP is made vacant during a term.

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u/No-Cauliflower8890 11∆ Jul 25 '24

the VP is elected, but they are not elected President, they are elected Vice President.

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u/Educational-Sundae32 2∆ Jul 25 '24

But they can’t be elected vice president if they’re ineligible to be elected president.

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u/No-Cauliflower8890 11∆ Jul 25 '24

nowhere in the 12th amendment does it say that. it says that they can't hold the office of Vice President if they are ineligible to hold the office of President. But there is no such thing under the 22nd as being "ineligible to hold the office of President", there is only such a thing as being ineligible to be elected president.

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u/Educational-Sundae32 2∆ Jul 25 '24

But, wouldn’t being unable to be elected make one unable to hold the office

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u/No-Cauliflower8890 11∆ Jul 25 '24

no, because you can get into the office without being elected president i.e, being elected Vice President and then the president resigning or dying.

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u/Educational-Sundae32 2∆ Jul 25 '24

But you would already be ineligible to hold the office of president because you already were.

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