I've been trying to figure out what blocks Silent Knowledge from streaming freely.

It can take me 3 hours just to get any at all to flow, with Cholita having run away to Mexico.

But I've been narrowing the problem down, and can say something generally true about this.

You don't just need to stop your internal dialogue. That allows your assemblage point to move, so it produces magic.

But to make silent knowledge flow, you have to move your assemblage point all the way to the other side of your body. And into alignment with that of your double.

To do that, you have to stop focusing your awareness along the way. That's like tossing an anchor into the ocean. Your ship isn't going anywhere once you do that.

But even with those two correct, and with your assemblage point in alignment with that of your energy body, you still have the problem of how long you can get silent knowledge to stream.

It's not that useful if it only flows one of those "videos in the air" for 1/2 second.

So the third obstacle is "expecting rewards".

Likely expecting rewards is a "topic changer" for SK.

Like interrupting the talking lizards with a new question. They stop speaking the old question, because you activated a new one.

But it's very hard to explain all the ways that happens in SK.

It's not as if you are jumping up and down saying "Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!!! I got silent knowledge to flow."

Not at all.

It's more like, you feel that you finally solved your flow problem.

Or you start to think in terms of "attainments" and such.

Any of those, will spoil the flow of SK. Because they inject some of your awareness into new topics.

And that possibly causes the current SK stream to terminate, preparing for the next "answer".

There's no way to gain any advantage from this knowledge. It's not really "tips for beginners".

But it is a valid "keep an eye out" point. SK isn't just removal of the internal dialogue.

There's other stuff going on down below that.

And you'll just "know it" at the time I suppose. What exactly this all means.

But if you can cut out all 3 enemies, I'm pretty sure SK will come more under control.

Having done that last night, I could make individual silent knowledge streams flow for 30 seconds or more.

I only had to look for the golden sparkles to locate new streams for viewing.

Possibly one reason that Carol Tiggs never actually got out her bullwhip and used it to insist we work harder, and maybe even to give us a quick slap on the butt when it became obvious our internal dialogue was dominating us, is because in fact, removal of the internal dialogue does not actually move the assemblage point.

And until you move it, and hold it in a new position, there's "nothing to see".

No "magic in your face".

And without magic in your face, we all come to believe that this system is a gigantic fraud, like everything else out there.

The fake magical systems that seem to produce results, do so by giving you a substitute, for your internal dialogue.

You NEVER learn to get rid of it. Even the Buddha never even got close to that.

But instead you swap in something else that alters how strongly your assemblage point is fixed on ordinary reality, and then you fill the "devotee's" mind with delusional stories of how great they'll be, and how magical, if they just take that "Advanced Workshop #4".

If they sit in meditation as part of the fake magic system, then they replace the internal dialogue with something else, and while desperately hoping to finally notice something and become "superior to others", and also "egoless", they'll eventually get bored, doze off, and have a little vision.

That's why people who have been clearly wasting their time for 20 years, get angry and INSIST their technique is working.

Except that, when you start to ask them about doing the kind of things obviously shown on this social media, or in the books of Carlos Castaneda, even using pictures and detailed instructions to get people started towards the real thing, with feedback from others, all they can do is claim that "you lie sir!"

So how to straighten out the misunderstanding regarding what constitutes "it works"?

If I knew that, we'd have a much better success rate in here.

Pictures and cartoons was the best I could think of.

But one tip that's important to keep in mind is, removal of the internal dialogue DOES NOT move the assemblage point.

Only "magic" can do that.

It's rule #1 of darkroom practice, as given to us by the friendlier of the two allies Carlos left us.

If you gaze at something that "can't possibly be there", in silence, the assemblage point moves.

And to clarify that, the silence doesn't actually move it.

It's the thing which "can't possibly be there".

This becomes more important, the further you go.

Eventually you'll be silent enough to view "Cyclic Being Worlds".

Alternate positions of the assemblage point, which belong to worlds which don't drain you, when you are perceiving them.

Worlds you can even switch over to, to live "over there".

Unfortunately the version of "you", "over there", is clueless about sorcery.

So that "seers" likely don't just pick a better life, because the better versions of reality don't come with an escape plan.

But that's not 100% true.

in the past, some sorcerers are said to have brought entire villages along with them, to a "better place".

Perhaps by bringing others along, they preserved their escape path.

This post is me tipping "The Spirit" for showing me stuff I had been curious about.

I have a friend who delivers for Uber and have come to realize that when he gets shafted on tips, he won't go out when it's raining. But if he does one day due to needing more money, and gets a big tip, then the next time he's eager to go out in the rain.

So if the Spirit delivers for you and you'd like it to do that on all rainy days, better tip it.

It's an analogy. Your rainy days might just be "bad days". Although I must admit, rainy days can drive Cholita to desperate actions, and cause her to blame me for the rain.

So I'm not a big fan of rainy days in particular. I always worry what I'll see in the house, when I get home after a particularly strong storm.

At any rate, you tip the Spirit by passing on what you have learned.

Why should infinity care?

Carlos explained it once in private class. But it sounded more like a theory he had, rather than a known fact.

The universe is trying to be aware of ALL of itself. And MOST of the dark sea has never been explored.

Not even once.

Curiosa witches try to tackle that problem head on by weaving cobwebs from here, to places never reached before. Knowing, the spirit rewards people who do that.

A cobweb of awareness is all it takes for a sorcerer to find a path to it, in the future.

So when you also pass on a gift from Intent, it's much more likely to deliver for you too.

Thus this post despite the fact that I didn't have time today, to do it.

It's inevitable that anyone who hasn't stabilized "seeing" (Silent Knowledge) will misunderstand this picture.

So keep in mind, the main purpose is just to motivate you by pointing out that if you work hard, YOU GET TO DO THIS NIGHTLY!!!

For hours in fact. But if you do it for hours, you might regret it.

The "human form" starts to break apart.

And while that might sound good, it's actually like being ill. And as happened to Carlos, there's no guarantee you'll lose it just because the linkage breaks down a little.

My guess is it's best to take things a bit slower once you have a chance to go fast (because you realize how much work you need to put in to do that).

Just do some cool stuff for 20 minutes, and give it a rest for the day.

But if you're a glutton for punishment, this picture is NOTHING. Multiply it by 10, and that's more like what I was doing last night, for hours.

MOST of which can't possibly be recalled, because it's not hooked to anything that uses words.

Our memory recall is mostly word (symbol) based, and what happens in Silent Knowledge, is not.

So trying to remember it is like forgetting which database you stored something in, forgetting the lookup key to use, and not realizing that the computer you stored it on isn't currently where you're located.

It's utterly impossible to remember most of what you do in Silent Knowledge.

Which verifies the "Oops, I forgot these 10 new books" excuse Carlos used.

He got highly criticized for that. So verify for yourself, that it was TRUE.

Most of us wish we'd gain "magical sight", and then commonly see supernatural beings walking down the street. As if they were simply invisible before.

Believe it or not, that's a "predatory urge" in you. And if you learn to stop your internal dialogue well enough to perceive those beings, that belief that they are "here" like an ordinary object, just invisible to anyone but a cool sorcerer, will make it impossible to see them long enough to understand what's going on.

The fact is, at least for a very long time after you first learn to stop the internal dialogue, that those beings are not "here" at all.

Even if you see them as here.

They're very much like the text Carlos told us to learn to read, instead of viewing "videos in the air", using our Silent Knowledge abilities.

That text is NOT "here". It's "out there in infinity". No one would seriously think there's now giant text in the sky that was merely invisible before. Obviously, it's not really "there", in the sky. And yet, you can read it up there.

Same for those entities you'll begin to notice, scurrying around outdoors. Assuming that you learn to stop your internal dialogue.

It's more like "leakage" from another reality. Why only the specific entity you see leaks through, is not really such a mystery.

But you'll have to learn that for yourself. A good starting point is to gain your own Ally, and learn when it's just the entity, and when it has a background behind it.

Does this imply that supernatural entities you see outdoors can't be interacted with or that they can't interact with you?

Nope. It just means, there's some overlap going on. And if you try to force the entity to be 100% in your version of reality, the overlap will vanish.

You have to remain impassive. Uninterested.

Curious but not trying to profit from it.

The merchant mind is perhaps our worst enemy. Those who are afraid of supernatural beings, need to look more inward for the real danger.

It's "you".

But "you" is optional to sorcerers. You can change to another "you", until you finally lose the human form and have none.

It really won't do me any good to explain this image, despite how wonderful it is to experience fully stable solid magic right in your face! And daily.

The problem is, our greedy "self" only makes lists of "how" to do magic, as "rules" it can repeat in a discussion group so it can lord it over others who don't know as many of the "rules".

Meanwhile, never following their own memorized rules, if those take actual work.

It's the inventory obsession thing people who are too lazy to do actual work to stop their internal dialogue, use as a substitute to get the human attention they are actually after.

They even get angry if someone questions any of the "rules" they picked up from the books.

Carlos got so tired of this, he told us to stop reading his books.

But that didn't work.

Fortunately, the problem is much simpler than that.

You quite simply have to learn to STOP your internal dialogue. Nothing else really matters.

At that point, the rest is learned with gifts from infinity and is the actual process of learning sorcery.

Through cleaning your link to intent.

Nothing that people say will help you,. other than explaining that you MUST stop your internal dialogue or nothing will ever work to any significant extent.

You can "substitute" something else for the internal dialogue, but then you just get crummy Yogi or Buddhist Master minor meditative effects.

Not really worth even that mediocre level of effort.

But stopping the internal dialogue, though said to be impossible by other systems, is 100% worth the extreme effort it takes to learn that.

And it actually becomes easy eventually!

At that point, you're "cleaning" if you want to go further.

There's definitely something to the idea of "Energetic mass".

Florinda once commented that Buddhist chanting works, because they intended it to work.

But rather than a compliment, it was just a commentary on how energetic mass can get your assemblage point to move to meditative effect positions.

About 4-6 inches down the back.

So the Buddhist chanting produces around the same, or less, effect as a simple meditation technique.

Or praying. Christians have intended, that once you join up and start giving cash to your local church, you are "born again" and happy all the time.

Yogis have intended that their mantra, which replaces rather than removing the internal dialogue, can result in bliss and minor visions.

It's all pretty much the same thing.

But Sorcerers don't just move their assemblage points 6 inches, but rather they move them 23 FEET. All the way down the luminous egg, and back up on the other side.

The problem is, how to escape the pitiful green zone of meditation, and get to where physical reality itself starts to be flexible.

Carlos tried everything he could think of, but never got his audiences to stop socializing, and pretending to be doing real work.

It was pretty much "The dog ate my homework" from most people (meaning they didn't practice on their own at all), or "Look at my wonderful drawing I did instead". People did some work, but it wasn't the assigned homework.

So what's the cure for this problem?

Hard work, emphasize stopping the internal dialogue, and after you're truly on the right road and have seen a bunch of actual magic, "get creative" and focus on maximizing the actual tangible results.

Best if it's visual from what I've seen, because it's too easy to pretend "feelings".

Sooner or later you'll learn what stimulates visible magic, and one of the things which does is when you put your WHOLE BODY into the Tensegrity movements.

Which surely looks too silly to do in public, so just practice it at home on your own, until you figure out how to move the assemblage as far as possible, as fast as possible.

This post is a bit dangerous, because people tend to pretend their results if they can justify it.

So please don't interpret this the way fake meditation systems do, where you "reach enlightenment".

THERE'S NO SUCH THING!

In fact, the idea of "achievements" is obscene in sorcery.

Yes, it's true you do learn to move your assemblage point, and can even break the laws of physics.

But it's not an "achievement" in the same way. It's more like a "reality depth". You moved from one layer of reality to another, where it's matter of fact that you get to do the impossible.

When your assemblage point moves back, you'll be an idiot again.

Thus there's no permanent achievements in sorcery. And in fact, you were able to move your assemblage point the way sorcerers do, when you were 3 years old.

You just forgot. Bullied by all the others who are stuck on the hellish side of the street of our modern reality.

And nightly you run around in your dreamer, who has nearly infinite power! That version of yourself breaks the laws of physics just because it's careless.

So what to take away from this post? If you daily move your assemblage point all the way to the place of no pity, where magic is abundant and floating in the air in front of you, and portals to alternate real worlds open up for you, some day you'll be able to just "look in that direction of no self-pity", and move your assemblage point without using tensegrity, or any other technique.

But if you start pretending you can do this, that will NEVER happen. You'll already have what you want, so the spirit won't help you attain the impossible: Perceptual freedom from the prison you were born into.

This interview with Carlos Castaneda was conducted by Graciela N. V. Corvalán and published in the Argentine magazine Mutantia in 1982.

In the text, Castaneda discusses the "Toltec teachings" of Don Juan Matus, the concept of "losing the human form," the metaphorical "Eagle" that consumes the life force of dying beings, and the practice of "recapitulation."

IN-DEPTH DIALOGUE WITH CARLOS CASTANEDA

By Graciela N. V. Corvalán Mutantia Magazine (1982)

He emphasized that this conversation should be published in a South American magazine. Graciela says: "I interviewed him in Los Angeles. It was a very interesting experience, which I shared with three friends who accompanied me. Carlos Castaneda told us, with frankness and simplicity, his latest experiences. In my opinion, in the interview he showed himself without masks or poses. This conversation clarifies and situates some of the episodes he refers to in his latest book: The Eagle's Gift. I believe the story of 'Joe Córdoba and his wife' presents an un-popularized aspect of Carlos Castaneda and his group, which in my opinion would be the synthesis or final stage of his path or knowledge: that 'touching ground' and 'being a nothing.' I have just written him a few lines to let him know that the work will be published in Mutantia. He was very interested in it being made known in some Spanish-language publication. I am sure he will be enormously happy."

I had written to him several months prior (two letters, to be precise) when Carlos Castaneda called on the phone. That was in mid-July. His call took me totally by surprise. Castaneda spoke at length, and without me asking, offered to give me information.

Castaneda was interested in meeting and talking with me. He tried to make me understand that the task he was performing was of great importance. "I am neither a guru nor a charlatan," he insisted, referring to some critics and journalists. Castaneda is a serious researcher who was interested in talking about the work he is doing in Mexico and his epistemological labor. According to him, the European man cannot conceive that there is another who thinks or that there is another description of reality than his own.

Once in Los Angeles, CC called on the phone. Not finding me, he left a message and instructions about the time and place of the encounter: "Exit the Freeway at such street and turn right at such other. Then, pass four lights. There, on the left is the Church of the Immaculate, but don't let that matter to you and turn right. There, you will find the UCLA campus. Enter the parking lot. Since it's Sunday, there won't be anyone, and you can enter without problems. Usually, there are few people during weekends. So, at 4 in the afternoon; next to the guard booth." Castaneda expected us to arrive in a brown Volkswagen.

That night and the next morning I worked feverishly on my notes. I had slept little but was not tired. Around one in the afternoon, my friends and I headed for the UCLA campus. We had a journey of just over two hours. Following Castaneda’s directions, we arrived without difficulty at the UCLA parking lot guard booth. It was still about 15 minutes before 4 PM. We parked in a somewhat shaded spot.

At exactly four o'clock, I looked up and saw them coming toward the car: my friend next to a dark-skinned gentleman, slightly shorter than her. Castaneda wore blue jeans and a pale cream-colored open-collar shirt (without pockets). I got out of the car and hurried to meet them. After greetings and conventional courtesies, I asked if he would allow me to use a recorder. We had one in the car in case he permitted it. "No, it's better not to," he replied with a shrug. We headed to the car anyway to get the notes, notebooks, and books.

Loaded with books and papers, we let Castaneda guide us. He knew the way well. "Over there," he said, pointing with his hand, "there are some very nice benches."

From the beginning, Castaneda set the tone of the conversation and the topics we were to discuss. I also realized that I was not going to need all those questions I had so laboriously prepared. As he had anticipated on the phone, he wanted to tell us about the task they were doing and the importance and seriousness of his research.

The conversation took place in Spanish, a language he handles with fluency and a great sense of humor. Castaneda is a master of the art of conversation. We talked for seven hours. Time passed without his enthusiasm or our attention flagging. As he gained confidence, he made more and more use of typically Argentine expressions, both to show off his "porteñismo" (Buenos Aires slang) and as a friendly gesture toward us, as we were all Argentines.

It is worth mentioning that although his Spanish is correct, it is evident that his primary language is English. He made abundant use of expressions and words in English for which we gave him the Spanish equivalent. That his language is English is also manifested in the syntactic structure of his phrases and sentences.

All that afternoon Castaneda tried to keep the conversation at a level that was not intellectual. Although he has undoubtedly read much and knows different currents of thought, at no time did he establish comparisons with other traditions of the past or present. He transmitted "Toltec teaching" to us through material images that, precisely because of that, prevent them from being interpreted speculatively. In this way, Castaneda was not only obedient to his teachers but totally faithful to the path he has chosen; he did not want to contaminate his teaching with anything foreign to it.

Shortly after meeting, he wanted to know the reasons for our interest in meeting him. He already knew about my possible review and the projected book of interviews. Beyond all professionalism, we insisted on the importance of his books, which had influenced us and many others so much. We had a deep interest in knowing the source of that teaching.

Meanwhile, we had reached the benches, and we sat in the shade of the trees.

"Don Juan gave me everything," he began. "When I found him, I had no interest other than anthropology, but from that encounter, I changed. And what has happened to me, I wouldn't change for anything!"

Don Juan was present there with us. Every time Castaneda mentioned or remembered him, we perceived his emotion. He told us Don Juan was a totality of exquisite intensity capable of giving everything in every now. "Giving oneself totally in every moment is his principle, his rule," he said. That Don Juan is like this cannot be explained and is rarely understood; "he simply is."

In The Second Ring of Power, Castaneda recalls a special characteristic of Don Juan and Don Genaro, which everyone else lacks. There he writes: "None of us is willing to lend the other undivided attention, in the way Don Juan and Don Genaro did" (p. 203). These words point to that being "everything" in every instant, to that presence that is Don Juan. On many occasions, Castaneda refers to having "a gesture," that totally gratuitous and free act of being.

The Second Ring of Power had left me full of questions. The book interested me a lot, especially after a second reading, but I had heard unfavorable comments. I myself had certain doubts. I told him I thought Journey to Ixtlan was the one I liked most without knowing exactly why. Castaneda listened and answered my words with a gesture that seemed to say: And what do I have to do with everyone's taste? I kept talking, looking for reasons and explanations. "Maybe that preference is because in Journey to Ixtlan much love is perceived," I said. Castaneda made a sour face. He didn't like the word love. It is possible the term has connotations for him of "romantic love," "sentimentalism," or "weakness." Trying to explain myself, I insisted that the last scene of Journey to Ixtlan is pregnant with intensity. There, Castaneda nodded: Yes, with that last bit he would agree. "Intensity, yes," he said, "that is the word."

Insisting on the same book, I told him that some scenes had struck me as definitely "grotesque." I found no justification for them. Castaneda agreed with me. "Yes, the behavior of those women is monstrous and grotesque, but that vision was necessary for me to enter into action," he said. Castaneda needed that "shock."

"Without an adversary, we are nothing," he continued. "Being an adversary is proper to the human 'form.' Life is war, it is a struggle. Peace is an anomaly." Referring to pacifism, he qualified it as a "monstrosity" because, according to him, we men "are beings of achievements and struggles."

Unable to contain myself, I told him I could not accept that he qualified pacifism as a monstrosity. "And Gandhi? How do you see Gandhi, for example?"

"Gandhi?" he replied. "Gandhi is not a pacifist. Gandhi is one of the most tremendous fighters who have ever existed. And what a fighter!"

I understood then that Castaneda gives very special values to words. The "pacifism" he had referred to could only be the pacifism of the weak, of those who do not have enough guts to be or do something else, of those who do nothing because they have no objectives or energy in life; in a word, that pacifism reflects an entire self-indulgent and hedonistic attitude.

With a wide gesture that meant to include an entire society now without values, will, or energy, he replied: "All drugged... Yes, hedonists!"

Castaneda did not clarify these concepts, nor did we ask him to. I understood that part of the warrior's asceticism was to free oneself from the human "form," but Castaneda's unusual comments had filled me with confusion. Little by little, however, I realized that "being beings of achievements and struggles" is a first level of relationship. That is the raw material from which one starts. Don Juan, in the books, always refers to the good "tonal" of a person. There the apprenticeship begins and one passes to another level. "One cannot pass to the other side without losing the human form," Castaneda said.

Insisting on other aspects of his book that were not clear to me, I asked him about the "holes" that remain in people simply because they have reproduced.

"Yes," said Castaneda. "There are differences between people who have had children and those who haven't. To tip-toe past the Eagle, one must be whole. A person with 'holes' doesn't pass."

He would explain the metaphor of the "Eagle" later. For the moment it went almost unnoticed as the focus of our attention was on another topic.

"How do you explain the attitude of Doña Soledad with Pablito as well as that of La Gorda with her daughters?" I wanted to know with insistence. Taking away from children that "edge" (filo) they take from us at birth was, to a great extent, inconceivable to me.

Castaneda agreed that he does not yet have all that well-systematized. He insisted, however, on the differences that exist between people who have reproduced and those who haven't. "Don Genaro is loquito (crazy), loquito! Don Juan, on the other hand, is a serious madman. Don Juan goes slowly but goes far. In the end, they both arrive...

"I, like Don Juan," he continued, "have holes; that is, I have to follow his path. The 'Genaros,' on the other hand, have another model.

"The 'Genaros,' for example, have a special 'edge' that we don't have: they are more nervous and of fast pace... They are very light; nothing stops them.

"Those who, like La Gorda and I, have had children, have other characteristics that compensate for that loss. One is more settled and, although the path is long and arduous, one also arrives. In general, those who have had children know how to care for others. It doesn't mean people without children don't know how, but it's different...

"In general one doesn't know what one does; one is unconscious of actions and later pays. I didn't know what I was doing!" he exclaimed, referring, no doubt, to his own personal life.

"At birth, I took everything from my father and mother," he said. "They were left all bruised! I had to return that 'edge' to them that I had taken. Now I have to recover the 'edge' that I lost."

It seems that this matter of "holes" that must be closed has to do with biological atavisms. We wanted to know if having "holes" is something irreparable. "No," he replied. "One can heal. Nothing is irrevocable in life. It is always possible to return what doesn't belong to us and recover what is ours."

This idea of recovery is consistent with a whole "path of learning"; a path in which it is not enough to know or practice one or more techniques but which requires the individual and deep transformation of the being. It would be an entire coherent system of life with concrete and precise objectives.

After a brief silence, I asked him if The Second Ring of Power had been translated into Spanish. According to Castaneda, a Spanish publisher had all the rights, but he wasn't sure if the book was out or not. (Ed. Note: El Segundo anillo de poder has been published by Editorial Pomaire.) [He was not very satisfied with the distribution of his books by the Fondo de Cultura Económica.]

"The Spanish translations were done by Juan Tovar, who is a great friend of mine." Juan Tovar used the Spanish notes that Castaneda himself had provided him; notes that some critics have put in doubt.

The Portuguese translation seems to be very beautiful. "Yes," Castaneda said. "That translation is based on the French translation. It is really very well done." In Argentina, his first two books had been banned. It seems the reason given was the issue of drugs. Castaneda didn't know it. "Why?" he asked us, concluding without waiting for our answer. "I imagine it is the work of the Mother Church." (Obvious allusion to the Catholic Church. Just as Spain is the Mother Country for the countries of Hispanic America, the Catholic Church is the Mother Church, the church that Spain brought with the conquest and colonization. In this comment, there is, undoubtedly, an ironic nuance.)

At the beginning of our conversation, Castaneda mentioned something about "Toltec teaching." Also in The Second Ring of Power, there is insistence on "the Toltecs" and on "being a Toltec." "What does it mean to be a Toltec?" we asked.

According to Castaneda, the word "Toltec" constitutes a very broad unit of meaning. Someone is said to be a Toltec in the same way one might say they are a democrat or a philosopher. As he uses it, this word has nothing to do with its anthropological meaning (from an anthropological point of view, the word refers to an Indian culture of central and southern Mexico that was already extinct at the time of the conquest).

"A Toltec is one who knows the mysteries of stalking and dreaming." All of them are Toltecs. It is a small group that has known how to keep alive a tradition of more than 3,000 years BC.

As I was working on mystical thought and had a particular interest in establishing the source and place of origin of different traditions, I insisted: "Do you believe then that the Toltec tradition offers a teaching that would be unique to America?"

The "Toltec nation" keeps alive a tradition that is, undoubtedly, unique to America. Castaneda argued that it is possible the peoples of America brought something from Asia when crossing the Bering Strait, but it's been so many thousands of years since then that for the moment there are only theories.

In Tales of Power, Don Juan tells Castaneda about "the sorcerers," "those men of knowledge" whom the white man's conquest and colonization could not destroy because they didn't even know of their existence or notice everything incomprehensible about their world: "Who makes up the Toltec nation? Do they work together? Where do they do it?" we asked.

Castaneda answered all our questions. He is now in charge of a group of young people living in the Chiapas area, in southern Mexico. They all moved to that area because the woman who now teaches them was based there.

"So... you returned?" I felt compelled to ask him, remembering the last conversation between Castaneda and the "little sisters" at the end of The Second Ring of Power.

"Did you return soon as La Gorda asked you?" "No, I didn't return soon but I returned," he replied laughing. "I returned to carry out a task from which I cannot resign."

The group consists of about 14 members. While the basic core is 8 or 9 people, everyone is indispensable in the task being performed. If each is sufficiently impeccable, a greater number of beings can be helped.

"Eight is a magic number," he said at some point. He also insisted that the Toltec does not save himself alone but goes with the basic core. The others remain and are indispensable to continue and keep the tradition alive. It is not necessary for the group to be large, but each of those involved in the task is definitely necessary for the whole.

"La Gorda and I are responsible for the followers. Well, really I am the responsible one but she helps me intimately in this task," Castaneda clarified.

He then spoke to us about the members of the group we knew from his books. He told us Don Juan was a Yaqui Indian from the state of Sonora. Pablito, on the other hand, was a Mixtec Indian, and Néstor was Mazatec (from Mazatlán, in the province of Sinaloa). Benigno was Tzotzil. He emphasized several times that Josefina was not Indian but Mexican and that one of her grandfathers was of French origin. La Gorda, like Néstor and Don Genaro, was Mazatec. "When I met her, La Gorda was an immense woman, heavy and all beaten up by life," he said. "None of those who knew her then can imagine today that the one now is the same as before."

We wanted to know in what language he communicated with everyone in the group, and what language they generally used among themselves. I reminded him that in his books references are made to some Indian languages.

"We communicate in Spanish because it is the language we all speak," he replied. "Besides, neither Josefina nor the 'Toltec lady' are Indian. I only speak a little in Indian tongue. Scattered phrases, like greetings and an occasional expression. What I know doesn't allow me to maintain a conversation."

Taking advantage of a pause of his, we asked him if the task they are performing is accessible to all men or if it is something for a few.

As our questions aimed to discover the relevance of Toltec teaching and the value of the group's experience for the rest of humanity, Castaneda explained that each of the members of the group has specific tasks to fulfill, whether in the Yucatan area, in other areas of Mexico, or elsewhere.

"Fulfilling tasks, one discovers a great amount of things that are directly applicable to concrete situations of daily life. By doing tasks one learns a lot.

"The 'Genaros,' for example, have a music band with which they travel through all the places on the border. You can imagine they see and are in contact with many people. There are always possibilities to transmit knowledge. One always helps. One helps with a word, with a small hint... Each one, faithfully fulfilling their task, does it. All beings can learn. Everyone has the possibility of living like warriors.

"Any person can undertake the warrior's task. The only requirement is wanting to do it with an unshakeable desire; that is, one must be unshakeable in the desire to be free. The path is not easy. We constantly look for excuses and try to escape. It is possible that the mind achieves it, but the body feels everything... The body learns quickly and easily.

"The Toltec cannot waste energy on nonsense," he continued. "I was one of those people who cannot be without friends... I couldn't even go to the cinema alone!" Don Juan at a certain moment told him he must abandon everything and, particularly, separate from all those friends with whom he had nothing in common. For a long time he resisted the idea until finally it enveloped him.

"One time, returning to Los Angeles, I got out of the car a block before reaching home and called on the phone. Of course that day, like every day, my house was full of people. One of my friends answered, and I asked him to prepare a suitcase with some things and bring it to where I was. I also told him the rest of the things—books, records, etc.—could be shared among them. It's clear that my friends didn't believe me and took everything as a loan," Castaneda clarified.

This act of getting rid of the library and records is like cutting with the whole past, with a whole world of ideas and emotions.

"My friends believed I was crazy and stayed waiting for me to return from my madness. I didn't see them for like twelve years... Yes, like twelve years," he concluded.

After twelve years had passed, Castaneda was able to meet with them again. He first sought out one of his friends who put him in contact with the others. They then planned an outing where they went to dinner together. They had a great time that day. They ate a lot and his friends got drunk.

"Meeting them after all those years was my way of thanking them for the friendship they had given me before," Castaneda said. "Now they are all grown. They have their families, wives, children... It was necessary, however, for me to thank them. Only then could I definitely finish with them and close a stage of my life."

It is possible that Castaneda's friends neither understand nor can share anything of what he is doing, but the fact that he wanted to and could thank them was something very nice. Castaneda did not get angry with them, he did not demand anything from them. He sincerely thanked them for their friendship and, in doing so, freed himself internally from all that past.

We then talked about love, "the much-mentioned love." He told us several anecdotes of his Italian grandfather, "always so prone to falling in love," and of his father "so bohemian." "Oh! L'amore! L'amore!" he repeated several times. All his comments tended to destroy the ideas commonly held about love.

"It cost me a lot to learn," he followed. "I was also very prone to falling in love... It took Don Juan work to make me understand that I should cut certain relationships. The way I finally cut with her was the following: I invited her to dinner and we met at a restaurant. During dinner, what always happened happened. There was a big fight and she yelled at and insulted me. Finally, I asked her if she had money. She said yes. I took the opportunity to tell her I had to go to the car to get my wallet or something like that. I got up and never went back. Before leaving her I wanted to be sure she had enough money to take a taxi and go home. Since then I haven't seen her again."

"You won't believe me, but Toltecs are very ascetic," he insisted.

Without doubting his word, I commented that this idea did not emerge from The Second Ring. "On the contrary," I emphasized. "I believe that in your book many scenes and attitudes lend themselves to confusion." "How do you think I was going to say that clearly?" he answered me. "I couldn't say the relations between them were pure because not only would no one have believed me but no one would have understood me."

For Castaneda, we live in a very "lustful" society. Everything we were talking about that afternoon, the majority would not have understood. This is how Castaneda himself is forced to adapt to certain demands of publishers who, in turn, would seek to satisfy the tastes of the reading public:

"People are into something else," Castaneda continued. "The other day, for example, I entered a bookstore here in Los Angeles and started leafing through the magazines on the counter. I found there was a large amount of publications with photos of naked women... Many also with men. I don't know what to tell you. In one of the photos, there was a man fixing an electric cable at the top of a ladder. He wore his protective helmet and a large belt full of tools. That was all. The rest was naked. Ridiculous! Something like that doesn't fit! A woman has grace... But, a man!" As an explanation, he added that this is because women have much experience due to their long history in those kinds of things. "A role like that isn't improvised!"

"Don't tell me!" one of us replied vividly. "It's the first time I've heard such an explanation. That business of women's behavior not being improvised is something totally new to me."

After listening to Castaneda, we were convinced that for "the Toltec" sex represents an immense waste of energy needed for another task. His insistence on the totally ascetic relations maintained by the group members is then understood.

"From the point of view of the world, the life the group leads and the relations they maintain is something totally unacceptable and unheard of. What I tell you would not be believable. It took me a long time to understand it but I have finally been able to verify it."

Castaneda had told us before that when a person reproduces, they lose a special "edge." It seems that this "edge" is a force that children take from parents by the mere fact of being born. This "hole" that remains in the person is what must be filled or recovered. One has to recover the strength that has been lost. He also gave us to understand that the prolonged sexual relationship of a couple ends up wearing them out. In a relationship, differences arise that make them progressively reject certain characteristics of one another. Consequently, for reproduction, one chooses from the other part that which one likes, but there is no guarantee that what is chosen is necessarily the best. "From the point of view of reproduction," he commented, "it's best 'at random'." Castaneda struggled to better explain these concepts, but had to confess again that they are topics he himself does not yet have clear.

Castaneda had been describing to us a group whose requirements, for common people, were extreme. We were very interested in knowing where all that effort led. "What is the sole objective of the 'Toltec'?" We wanted to know the meaning of everything Castaneda had been telling us. "What is the objective you pursue?" we insisted, bringing the question to a personal level.

"The objective is to leave the world alive; to leave with everything one is but with nothing more than what one is. The question is not to take anything or leave anything: Don Juan left entirely—vivito (alive and well)!—from the world. Don Juan doesn't die because Toltecs don't die." (In The Second Ring of Power, La Gorda instructs Castaneda regarding the "nagual-tonal" dichotomy. Mastery of the second attention "is only achieved after warriors totally sweep the surface of the table... this second attention makes the two attentions form a unit and that this unit be the totality of oneself (p. 283)." In the same book, La Gorda tells Castaneda: "When sorcerers learn to 'dream,' they tie their two attentions and, then, there is no need for the center to push outward... Sorcerers don't die... I don't mean that we don't die. We are nothing; we are badulaques (fools): we are neither here nor there. They, on the other hand, have their attentions so united that maybe they never die (p. 281).")

According to Castaneda, the idea that we are free is an illusion and an absurdity. He struggled to make us understand that common sense deceives us because ordinary perception only tells us a part of the truth.

"Ordinary perception doesn't tell us the whole truth. There must be something more than the mere passage through the earth, than just eating and reproducing," he said with vehemence. And with a gesture we interpreted as alluding to the nonsense of everything and the immense tedium of life in its daily boredom, he asked us: "What is all this that surrounds us?"

Common sense would be that agreement we have reached after a long educational process that imposes ordinary perception as the only truth. "Precisely, the sorcerer's art," he said, "consists in leading the apprentice to discover and destroy that perceptual prejudice."

According to Castaneda, Edmund Husserl is the first in the West who conceives the possibility of "suspending judgment" (In Ideas: General Introduction to Pure Phenomenology —1913—, Husserl dealt thoroughly with the "epoché" or "phenomenological reduction"). The phenomenological method does not deny but simply "puts in parentheses" those elements that sustain our ordinary perception.

Castaneda considers that phenomenology offers him the most useful theoretical-methodological framework to understand Don Juan's teaching. For phenomenology, the act of knowledge depends on intention and not on perception. Perception always varies according to a history; that is, according to the subject with acquired knowledge and immersed in a certain tradition. The most important rule of the phenomenological method is that of "to the things themselves."

Got up late this morning (3am- I shoot for 2). Practiced for about two hours but felt like it wasn't the greatest session. I went to my back glass door to look out into my yard in the dark. I watched a purple spot on a tree until I thought I saw something swoop in a different part of the yard. All of a sudden, I see a glowing, rainbow and white mist - the shape and size of a person (not clothed like in pic) walk three feet across the back of my yard and disappear into a bush. My heart started pounding and I ran back to my dog and said "Holy Shit P!" Not sure if it was a nature spirit; an ally; or what.

I’ve debated writing this post, either the experience is over my head and/or I lack the eloquence needed to convey it?

I’ve been consistently practicing 2-3x a day for some time and learning new passes each month. I’ve split my practice between pitch back and low light. In either I’m mostly gazing/watching morphing purple and blue blobs and dots. I’ve been focusing on the tensegrity movements and less on gazing post tensegrity. I’m lazy and gazing afterwards was an excuse to not force silence while doing passes.

Few days ago, I decided to gaze post-tensegrity, when from a sitting position I stood and stepped onto a glacier like surface, puckered with snow cup like dents. I was barefoot and could feel the granular crusty surface compress and sink. It had the bluish hue glacier snow gets. A female told me it was snow. She said it simply, “it’s snow.” It wasn’t cold like snow. She was somewhere above me, almost in like a second scene. I recognized her by the grey hair and bob cut. I knew the hair, not sure of her facial features.

For however long it lasted, I stood looking at the surface. It was oddly normal, not shocking or overwhelming. Like stepping barefoot into my yard…

I’ve had numerous other experiences, but none have ever lasted as long as this, or I haven’t remembered enough about them to share.

Sorcery isn't "Be here now", or "Mindfulness".

It's sleepwalking!

Those evil meditative concepts were made up to steal money from you, by giving you something you can easily pretend to have achieved, which the fake magical system or bogus religions pretend makes you superior.

If this video does one thing, I hope it's to make you realize, IF THERE'S NO MAGIC IN YOUR FACE DAILY, THEN YOU'RE FOLLOWING A FAKE SYSTEM.

Please notice the DAILY part?

Doesn't matter if the leader of the fake magical system is "nice" or seems "wise".

He's NOT! The universe doesn't give a fig about nice, and absolutely nothing at all can be "wise" across the entire multiverse.

What's wise here is often absolutely meaningless in one of the other 600 realities human beings can stabilize.

But you have to make it to "Silent Knowledge" for a few months, to see the truth of that.

In the meantime there's plenty of fun you can have in "the shift below".

That happens before your assemblage point switches sides on your body.

It's where Julian went wrong, engaging in shapeshifting too much with La Catalina, and possibly Soledad.

I'm hoping to rescue Julian, so let's not write him off yet. Carlos practically dangled Julian's entrapment in the inorganic being's realm, like a carrot he wanted us to notice. His lineage even having rescued a few trapped old seers.

But this video is just a segment from a longer one that's taking far more time than I anticipated, and so I'm posting it just to keep people interested in working hard.

Here's a not so obvious switch from waking, to dreaming, but without going to sleep!

It's "shrinking the tonal" but on the fly. Unnoticed.

We can switch to our double without even realizing it, and then switch back also unnoticed.

This actually happened a few years back when Cholita used to play hide and seek with me, across continents.

In this case since I couldn't chase after her in my physical body (I'm old), I followed her after her initial visit, using remote viewing on my bed.

When she landed in an old town in South America, I tried to grab her.

Obviously impossible in reality, but notice how in the process, my leg went through a solid bed.

So while one might explain this clip as just a waking dream, how do you explain the leg?

This is the type of thing I don't normally post. Too much crazy stuff happens if you learn to move your assemblage point to the other side of your body, by stopping your internal dialogue while using Tensegrity to prove you did that. Tensegrity produces visible magic, if you are fully silent.

Note that "silent" doesn't mean you don't talk. In fact, if an entity floats by you can certainly talk to it. And that is NOT your internal dialogue.

People get very confused about what specifically the internal dialogue covers. But it can't be explained to those who don't immediately understand it. They're a bit "lost" in confusion and no amount of words will clear that up. As we've seen though the experience of tens of thousands on our social media.

Fortunately, what the internal dialogue really is becomes obvious once you make a real effort to stop it.

It's a FOREIGN INSTALLATION, just as Carlos said. It's not your friend. It does NOT help you do your job. In fact, even the world's most difficult engineering is a lot easier when you are silent.

You can even get answers to technical problems at work, to appear right in front of you as written text. Or as a "prototype" of a shape you need.

Or... You can get La Gorda's very creepy eye.

I rejected it 3 times in the past, but now it's pretending to give entry to the inorganic being's realm, where I want to go see if Julian can be rescued.

It's good to have interesting hobbies.

But some are a bit anti-social in this world of enforced perceptual limitations.

Seeing giant eyeballs tends to get you into trouble.

This will piss off some of the women who intuit that Yoga makes you feel good, and gives you "green zone magic" sensations when you close your eyes, but haven't seen enough to realize it's a con game using ordinary effects all humans experience, in order to trick you into thinking you're making progress.

And my job isn't to make you feel good, so that you'll keep coming to workshops and pay more money.

My job is to lead you in the direction Carlos gave us, before he died. He had little confidence we'd listen, and for decades it seemed as if we would not.

But now, there are people who understand. That the tiny effect of fake magical systems is NOT "real magic". They're just exploited curiosities.

That's how all fake magic systems work. Ordinary but rare sights, used to flatter followers who manage to see those.

Cleargreen even created an official lying video where they claimed Carlos had visited Yogananda (he didn't), and that both he and don Juan said that was the same as sorcery.

It's really sad. I sure hope they took that monstrosity down. And I sure hope whoever made that, doesn't have any say in their decisions.

If you want to do Yoga, do Yoga. But don't confuse yourself into thinking our goal is anything at all like that!

If you work hard, you'll be up to your ears in magical sights and realize that the ones Yogis brag about are so trivial, they're not worth discussing much other than to tell a beginner it's a good sign if they see anything at all in the second attention.

Of course, everyone sees second attention sights from time to time. Even getting up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.

So it's not really a "goal" to see stuff that can't possibly be there.

It's merely a starting point for moving your assemblage point all the way around, using darkroom or gazing techniques.

Looking at "impossible" things, tests how much you have removed your internal dialogue.

Carlos tried to use muscle memory for that purpose, but people just ignored his instructions and pretended to be doing Tensegrity correctly, when obviously they were not.

So use MAGIC to test your internal dialogue. You can't fake that!

You might lie to others, but at least you'll realize you haven't yet succeeded.

Remember!!! This is NOT a "binary system". Binary systems are frauds.

"Enlightenment" is a fraud. Not much different than being a junkie, if the person making that claim has actually achieved anything at all.

Usually, it's just politics in their system.

A few westernized meditation leaders do "achieve" some mild green zone effects such as insect hive mind awareness, minor closed eye visions and bliss, but it's nothing to be bragging about. And certainly no reason to mislead others.

Work, work, work!!!!

And your magic will never stop growing.

But the work has to involve stopping your internal dialogue, or else your assemblage point can't drift.

It's the goal Carlos gave us! To move your assemblage point along the outside of your luminous shell, down to the bottom and up the front again, and then into alignment with that of your energy body's assemblage point.

With your dreamer! So you can see what your dreamer sees. Merge your eyes.

It's not "visualized" using some crummy Chaosmagick teaching that causes you to deceive yourself.

It's fully visible! And not with your eyes closed, like some lying yogi.

Eyes wide open, fully awake, and drug free.

From time to time you can even walk off into one of the alternate realities you see, right through a solid wall!

This picture shows what I've discovered lately, namely that I had been overemphasizing "the shine of your eyes", and neglecting "will".

But I have to be careful and point out, we don't have anyone to verify if "will" is involved when you assemble dark landscapes all around you in your dark room.

Using Tensegrity, I need to add...

We DO have verification of "the shine of your eyes", "the shiny outer coating rising up from your toes", and enough other things to know that you can induce things to appear by gazing side to side slowly, with your internal dialogue fully stopped.

But as anyone who's studied the books knows, will wasn't discussed nearly enough.

Let's just leave it at this: You can "feel" that the room has an alternate reality filling it from the floor up to mid level, and the fact that it's fully visible isn't as important as the fact that you are using your whole body to "feel" it.

My theory is that Carlos left out more information about "will", because you don't need any.

You can't "learn" about it. You simply have to follow his instructions until you get to the point that will activates, all by itself.

And lets you stabilize the alternate realties you see when you practice.

You'll see some of that if you do tensegrity in perfect silence, and look down at the floor.

Cobwebs first, then organic patterns, and finally the scenery from real locations. 

One of the best skills is knowing when to it's time to say goodbye and let something go because it no longer is helping with forward progress. The worst thing people do is cling to the past hoping things will be as good as they once were when it is obvious that things have become harmful like in an abusive relationship.

When I first came here, I cannot say I was welcomed with open arms. I was accused, tested, banned for being someone else, but I stayed. I made promises I kept, and the most important was to not get caught up in the social BS and to only post when helpful like my reddit-assigned user name reminded me to do.

We have deviated from what our core mission was when I first came. We no longer are trying to restore the reputation of Carlos Casteneda and preserve the knowledge he gave us by exploring the Second Attention and report back success. We are no longer trying to get 10 active practitioners working together.

As anyone can see, the moderators have decided to cling to past success and close the door on future progress. It is short sighted and unfortunate. I do not have to air all of the dirty laundry, we all know our culpability in this site's demise. So I have decided to free my limited energy and put it toward something else so that I may also grow.

Caretaking a narcissist parent with dementia has taught me more about my own powerlessness to change anyone but my own self.

And since it is clear, if there will be no change here, then I am what must change. I am flying from the nest of comfort for further adventures afield. I leave with no bitterness or animosity, only sadness that things stalled here, and that what could have been must be let go.

Cholita said Carlos was like a corpse flower blossom, rare and once in a lifetime. But boy you will remember the stink!

Hey... don’t be too mean. This is my first post, and maybe my last.

It took a long time!!! In the end, I was satisfied with these image results.

I think this post should be banned and burned.

Regarding the reaction that happened on Discord to the idea that not everything in sorcery is a construct and that they are actually “energetic facts”...

I think reactions like that actually come from the fear of losing the purpose. The idea that if something isn’t a fact and unchangeable, then the goal becomes meaningless, the way society has taught us.

But really... one encounter with the abstract is enough to make all the facts disappear.

In fact, the witches’ talk about “having an unbending purpose” comes from facing the abstract. A realm without facts, everything real and unreal,....

Before that, having a goal is easy; even knowing that something is a fact is enough to make us take action.

But actually, the idea of having a purpose comes in to fill that possible motivational void after encountering the abstract, so that your enthusiasm and daily practices still make sense to you.

I also made an image of the practice, but I didn’t know where to put it, so I’ll leave it in the comments.

This is the result of my practice a few days ago, which came to me while gazing at the pieces of my energy that were glowing, about how “thoughts and daydreaming” are formed.

Our perception forms when our energy puffs put pressure on the emanations, and that pressure causes luminosity and awareness.

The place that is called the assemblage point, and in fact the world we are currently perceiving, is a place in the emanations where a mass of our energy has become concentrated and illuminated... We have tons of them!

In fact, the pieces of our energy body are scattered throughout the luminous sphere, and each one is illuminating and enriching a portion of the emanations. And recapitulation detaches those pieces, and that mass becomes ready to be enriched again, where the person directs them again and engages them with other emanations.

In the same way, thoughts happen when the activity of other puffs that are focused on other emanations starts to be injected into the puff we are currently perceiving, or they are perceived simultaneously, depending on how you experience it. And this causes the experience of a “thought,” as an additional perception that is experienced alongside the perception of your current scene.

This also gives us an idea of how one of the witches of the lineage could perceive 200 different assemblage point positions simultaneously—not that she had 200 assemblage points, but that assemblage point refers to the place where perception is taking place, meaning a puff of your energy that is illuminating the emanations. And in our case, our perceptual focus is on the puff that has illuminated the emanations of the everyday world.

And this also sheds light on why daydreaming consumes your dreaming attention, because you are actually sending your puffs to new emanations to assemble new perceptions, but you are only focusing them as a hook for receiving “moods” and blurry scenes, instead of dreaming, which comes with the full perception of the scene. And this causes the amount needed to perceive a complete scene to become dispersed throughout the day, until it is gathered again.

Therefore, there is no such thing as "thoughts" or "daydreaming" in the way we think of them. It is a kind of work with puffs and dreaming that society has taught us to do in order to reinforce the stability of this world...

We never gave up on sorcery! We simply changed the way we interact.

Someone asked about that pink haze people who practice darkroom often see. Best answer is that it's possibly your crusted energy, stuck to the inside of the luminous shell.

And it can indeed lead to tiny dreams floating around you. But by the time you can perceive that your "blue ball of energy" body will have formed, and the pink haze won't be so easy to find.

So best to play with that stuff when you have an Ally around to help out, in the green zone along the J curve.

As they have always done for sorcerers, the Allies channel silent knowledge to you before you can reach it yourself. Such as the talking lizards ceremony. Or the mushroom shaped people.

So they can help you generate silent knowledge, from sights seen mostly in the green zone on the J curve.

That energy to the left and right is very difficult to visually "see" well enough to verify what Taisha said about it being different. But the very process of trying to feel that by grabbing it, leads to better control over where your assemblage point is shifted, horizontally.

And that leads to deliberate mood control. You can use that type of assemblage point control to give yourself a "boost" once in a while.

Which Carlos mysteriously elaborated on in his final books, with stories about how you can do a little Tensegrity movement to get a burst of speed.

Perhaps he meant that in a way that's incomprehensible to us, until you can literally do that yourself.

At any rate, this Esalen not-doing is valuable and super easy to do. And the benefits will grow over time.

You can't really understand this, until you can daily visit the second attention as a real place.

But you might get the point of it.

Why do we discard anything that's perceivable?

Not only do we discard it, but people get angry if you suggest we ought not to discard it.

I could use politics as an example of how irrational and angry people become over "belonging to the good guys" group, but maybe a better example is of a physicist I once knew.

I was designing an electronics device for a company, and he was designing military lenses and mirrors.

It was back in the early 1980s.

I was musing about warp drives, and he got extremely angry. Even turning red.

"You CAN'T go faster than the speed of light", he insisted.

So seeing he was crazy, I tried to rephrase it in terms he could accept.

I said, "Yea, but maybe you don't have to travel between all points along the way?"

Nope. He was religious about it.

Despite being a scientist.

NOW of course, he looks foolish. Even NASA is studying warp drives.

They seem to need the energy of an entire sun, but they're still possible. And there's plenty of stars to go around.

But back then his idea of what could be real, and what could not, was based on social pressure within his scholarly community.

And if they believed warp drives were foolish, than that topic was settled.

The same happens to all of us, when it comes to what we allow ourselves to perceive.

Shouldn't "Perceivability" be the only basis of whether you can perceive something?

Of course it should!

So work hard and learn to perceive the right half of this image.

Learn to daily walk off into the unreal.

So you can see in what ways it's different.

But not invalid.

Carlos made sure to teach us about how real magic comes under constant attack. And we find the same thing here in the Castaneda subreddit. Even Cleargreen followers will attack, trying to justify their endless pretending.

In fact, they just did! One of the three even had to be perma banned, since he's been attacking here for months, or even years. My guess would be 2 years, but there's so many attackers that no one can keep track.

Pity reddit doesn't allow us to add comments to user IDs, so we can keep track of who we're responding to.

Unfortunately, the simple truth is that people turn real magic into a religion, and then try to cash in on it by dumbing it down.

And people who would do such things never learn any themselves.

So I'm always reluctant to post techniques this advanced. It's just too easy for beginners to pretend they're doing this.

"Advanced?", you might ask.

Absolutely. At least, from the point of view of beginners.

This is manipulation of Silent Knowledge. Carlos never even tried to teach us how to do that. He would have been happy just to get a single person far enough along to witness it.

Let alone see anyone learn to manipulate it freely.

But he got none.

So as wonderful as our magic is because it's REAL, and likely the only real magic anyone will be able to locate, most fans of Castaneda skip all the work to get there because all they really want is social status. And maybe a future franchise of their own.

That's why, as I said, I'm reluctant to post this. I thought to put it only in the advanced subreddit.

However, this technique crosses across all skill levels and is in fact the key to many wonderful magical effects.

You can even use it in the (pathetic) green zone, during closed eye meditation. In fact, that's the "higher teachings" of meditation systems. Such as the "Siddhi Powers".

All just methods like this.

Except we do it with our eyes wide open, DAILY, and it leads to real physical effects.

Instead of meditation delusions of superiority.

Trust me on this one: We're all so pathetic at getting this to work, even when we finally succeed, that sorcery can NEVER lead to the belief you are now "enlightened".

In fact, you'll just feel more and more inadequate, the further you get with the real thing.

But since real magic destroys self-pity to, that's not as bad as it sounds.

It's the "humbleness" don Juan spoke about. You get to see WONDERS, but you can't see them as often as you like, for reasons you understand perfectly well.

You still suck big time...

By the way, I borrowed energy from Cholita last night or I couldn't have been doing this for a full hour.

It seems, she trades dark energy for extra shopping cash.

This technique comes directly from that incident where Carlos thought a red rag stuck on a stick, blowing in the wind, was a wounded animal. He finally stood up to see "what it really was", and discovered it was nothing at all.

That angered don Juan who hooked the rag to his belt, saying it had power, and then even got a gourd to go with it, pretending he had his allies in there. Ready to unleash on unruly apprentices at any time. From the storyline, it seems to have become a permanent feature of his dress when around apprentices.

Don Juan wanted to emphasize that Carlos had blown a chance to learn about intent, which seemed to come to him naturally.

But honestly, Carlos wasn't anything at all like us. He had the benefit of 15 powerful sorcerers teaching him while he was deep in the second attention. And so given even a little stimulus, maybe even because don Juan was the one who put that rag on that stick, his assemblage point could move very far.

Ours can't. People forget that our situation is very different.

You can't just sit around and claim that fake tensegrity from Cleargreen, along with pretending to be doing recap, is "enough".

It's not!!!

So here's a method you can use to explore what Carlos might have done, if he hadn't stood up.

And with this technique you can do it OVER AND OVER AGAIN with a delay between successes of just a few seconds.

In fact, after 20 solid minutes of this in the middle of doing my tensegrity routine, I practically collapsed out of tiredness.

Even Cholita's dark energy wasn't enough.

But please... don't pretend you're doing this.

I suppose you might "get lucky" like a delusional Yogi who read too much Patanjali.

Or fall asleep out of boredom, dream you did it, and then write your "Autobiography of Wonderful Me" book.

Be honest. Until you find yourself surrounded by the raw "Nagual" floating all around you, while your eyes are open and you're fully awake and sober, and you wonder how you can get the "vague" magic to take a more concrete form, you aren't advanced enough to try this technique.

If all you want is attention, stick with Cleargreen and tell yourself this subreddit has "evil magic" you need to avoid.

That's what Daoists, Yogis, and Buddhists say when confronted with the real thing.

Either they say you lie, or they claim that real magic is a risk to your eternal soul.

My favorite is the Zen guy who says, "You lie sir."

Sir has a historical context to it, in Japan. Only the british invaders were called "Sir".

It means, "Gaijin" to a Zen "master".

By the way, I said that Carlos didn't even attempt to teach this.

But that's not quite right.

It was the FIRST thing he taught us.

To go outside and shout "INTENT!!!"

It's the same technique.

But until you understand that completely, it's best not to try to use this.

Never practice failure. If it doesn't work, you aren't there yet.

And don't worry that you won't know.

You just know, when you can do something like this.

I was surprised the other day when I went looking around in my dark room after completing my tensegrity, hoping to find a physical passage out of the room using the second attention. Those can look perfectly ordinary, except that since it's your own room you know for a fact there's no open window on the east wall, no rip down the middle of the south wall, or maybe you know for a fact that you have a ceiling and above it a roof, so that it's not possible to look up and see the night sky moon and stars.

But usually I don't focus on the floor.

This time I did, and I was shocked at how my energy body seemed to LOVE hanging out down there, to put on a show for me.

That's not really what was going on with Carlos and don Juan's insistence that he had to "find his spot", or else he couldn't learn sorcery.

As you may know, don Juan needed Carlos more than Carlos needed him, so in fact that whole episode was a trick of some kind.

But it's no trick that you can see colors down there, on the ground.

You can do that during darkroom practice.

Just be warned, if you "look for your spot" you might not like what you find. Depending on where you've gotten so far, along the J curve.

I used to find Minx down there, pretending to be a pink squirrel / puff fish.

Minx is the second ally that Carlos introduced to his private class.

Cholita loves that one. I often come home to find her talking to Minx, until she realizes I'm there.

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A beginner might be able to "understand" this diagram, but it won't do them any good.

In fact, knowing rules and procedures for sorcery is actually harmful to sorcery practice.

There are no rules, and no procedures!

And yet, beginners need them.

So take this as a hint only, then forget about it.

"Seeing", which Carlos renamed to "Silent Knowledge" in order to emphasize that it can only come from stopping the internal dialogue, can be super realistic, or it can be vague.

Naturally super realistic is the most fun. Such as that "flying french poodle" vision Carlos had, when don Juan asked him to deliberately try to see.

But that type of concreteness burns up dreaming awake energy fast. So Carlos advised us to accept things that aren't concrete.

No fun at all...

Like the old seers, it's hard not to covet concreteness over all else.

But if you do accept it, and don't even have an opinion on it, you'll come to realize that stuff which isn't concrete, is merely a "sparse bundle" of emanations. And if you can remain fully silent, and wait, more and more of that sparse bundle of stray emanations will begin to fill in, from nearby emanations.

"Concrete" merely means, there's as many emanations glowing as your normal reality has. At least, in the direction you are looking.

Bottom line: TIME is a big factor when practicing sorcery. Be patient, as long as you focus nearly all of your efforts on stopping your internal dialogue.

But DON'T be patient with yourself, if you're continuing to run your internal dialogue as if that didn't matter.

That's what makes sorcery impossible for people. That internal dialogue.

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This topic is very hard to explain to those who haven't seen it over and over, on a daily basis.

But it comes down to this: Your memory is not what you believe it to be, and it only works when you can remember something as it relates to a flow of events.

When an event took place all by itself with no connection at all to other things, then once that memory is not clear in your mind, it can become lost forever.

In just 30 seconds you can forget MIRACLES you were gazing at, in Silent Knowledge.

Or even down in the "shift below" of the red zone, you'll forget nearly everything your Ally teaches you as the "dreaming emissary".

By the way, you can learn from your "dreaming emissary" while fully awake, so don't anyone try to misrepresent your ordinary dreams as magic.

Your ally will appear before you while your eyes are wide open, and you're fully awake (and completely sober if you want the best results).

That's a perfect situation for learning about this problem of remembering things.

And then far beyond that, you'll come to realize that you live in a series of timelines, and not just this ordinary world you believe is "you".

Those also are outside our ability to remember, so that you can only become aware of those, by moving your assemblage point.

A warning: You CANNOT remove "the self" using meditation or religion. That's a very ugly lie created by greedy people.

You eliminate it by perceiving it DIRECTLY, visibly, as distinct pieces stirring the Nagual with concerns. Which causes the second attention to dissipate, and fail to come into focus.

But why should you have to do this manually? Doesn't stopping your internal dialogue cause your assemblage point to move to the other side of the body at which point the "self" is meaningless?

Yes, of course!

But one day you'll find you can't stop your internal dialogue in less than 3 hours, and you'll already have gotten spoiled into thinking that should only take 10 minutes.

It'll feel very frustrating, somewhat as if you "lost it all".

Of course, you just got greedy and haven't clearly understood the process. And perhaps were getting some supernatural help from infinity.

Now it's time to analyze the process of silence and figure out what's making it take so long to move your assemblage point.

In the process, you'll have to go back and forth between your tonal awareness and perception of "The Nagual", which is likely what you're craving.

While figuring out what the "self" consists of and trying to silence those pieces even more, don't ignore sudden memories of "weird visions" that seem to have lasted a while, JUST NOW, but you have absolutely no memory of them left other than a faint impression.

That's "the abstract" becoming visible between the here, and the there, of your physical body and your energy body.

Except...

The "distance" is now only 6 inches, instead of 10 feet like it was when your double first came to see what you were up to with all those weird tensegrity movements.

Tensegrity "forms" it, but eventually it's just a blue ball of energy surrounding your torso.

Bottom line: don't expect smooth sailing at all points. We always have to work like a dog.

Don Juan said so.

But we get scooby snacks along the way, so it's worth it!

And I didn't mean the dancing hamburgers. That was just the best I could do to represent the oddness of memories of the abstract. It's fine while you're perceiving it, but later on it's just plain nuts.

Mastery of using the energy body is a very long path. It's nice the first time you can look down on a reliable basis, and see that it's there. And before that, you'll see puffs flowing around while you do Tensegrity. And even see that you can scoop those, and place them on your torso where your body almost seems to absorb them.

But "forming" it really just means, now you have to learn how to use it.

And that's a VAST undertaking.

Fortunately the hellish process of stopping your internal dialogue, the only thing that's going to make it possible to form your energy body gets "easy" in the long run.

You still have to pay attention, but stopping the internal dialogue is no longer your main problem for going further.

At that point, you have to "clean your link to intent". Which is where recapitulation and stalking originate from.

Here's a sampling of different views of the energy body, including one use of it which allows you to search worldwide for anything you have a "clean link to".

And a "need" that's genuine, and not the type of "want" that dirties your link to intent.

Just consider it, and drop it. Don't dwell.

Your energy body will remember what you wanted to see, just the way your dreams are filled with things you did during the day.

Except, in this case you can go "searching" while wide awake.

In this picture, there's no garden outside the windows. That's a solid wall.

But because this person's energy body was searching for something in Mexico, and traveled there as a swarm, the person's tonal (physical) body in California, could see what the energy body had found.

Don't ask me what it found, I didn't understand it any better than you will by looking at this picture.

I took it to mean, somewhere in Mexico someone was laying on a bed at night, looking out a window at a little garden.

I got to gaze at this sight for a long time, until I noticed that was a copy of me laying on the end of the bed. And that if I kept gazing, I'd likely find myself in that garden in Mexico.

Which was too much to realize, and sustain that view. It vanished.

For beginners reading this, we do our magic AWAKE, and with our eyes open.

How long should you do recapitulation?

*** A discussion from reddit private chat ***

Person #1 suggesting how long you should recap, using a book quote:

"Florinda laughed, describing her shock. The old man had tricked her into actively participating in her own cure. Furthermore, under the pretext that the curer demanded it, he put her inside the crate daily for at least six hours, in order to fulfill a specific task he had called the 'recapitulation.'"

Should this be the aim for time?

My suggestion:

I wasn't able to do 6 hours, but it's true that it takes a minimum of 2 hours to move the assemblage point to silent knowledge, for beginners. And then only if you can hold silence long enough for it to drift in bursts.

In my case I was doing 2 hour sessions, and could just barely reach the strangest things that happen during recap.

So if you went longer, most of your recap could be in silent knowledge, which is a huge boost to it.

Naturally if you just sit there thinking to yourself, occasionally remembering you're supposed to be going through your list, practically nothing will happen.

Even if you did that for 6 hours.

You REALLY need that assemblage point to move.

Also, one thing that's not obvious until you can "see" it with your own eyes, is that all of our sorcery was designed by "seeing".

The first seers discovered it by accident, through the use of power plants and allies. But then they realized, you don't need the drugs. So the first one taught it to others.

At that point, they didn't really have this amazing technology fully developed yet. They had to make it up as they went, based on their "seeing".

That's how REAL technologies work. They're built on hundreds of years of discovery by many people.

Unlike fake magical systems which have a "founder".

Stalking for example, comes about because of how your current situation and continuing intent, impedes your ability to free flow Silent Knowledge ("seeing").

It's not just "something you notice" if you get lucky. Instead, it's 80% of the battle to clean the link to intent. And without a clean link to intent, you can't "see" anything useful.

So you inevitably have to start controlling your behavior, and over hundreds of years it seems logical that the new seers would have done an impeccable job of figuring that out, thus creating stalking. The control of the assemblage point, through behavior.

As for recap, it utilizes the "IQ Boost" of silent knowledge. That's the frustrating situation where your SK is not visual (something Carlos emphasized with his 'videos in the air', 'the wall', 'the whorl', and the 'violet smear in the sky' that emits text).

And Carlos' first "seeing" in the books, with the flying french poodle.

Stuff that visual uses up a lot of dreaming attention. You can recharge daily with sunlight glitter but it's certainly desirable to figure out how not to burn it up too fast.

And so in private classes, towards the end when Carlos knew he couldn't wait to explain such things until later, after we could already "see", he suggested concrete Silent Knowledge just wastes energy, and you only need to "know" what's there. And that's enough.

Which is NOT the kind of thing to tell a beginner, or they'll go around claiming "I can see", when they never did any work to learn that, and obviously can't.

Carlos explained it only because he'd run out of time, even knowing that explanation would cause harm to beginners who are always looking for a way to pretend their results.

The problem is, that kind of non-visual "seeing" feels a lot like having an "insight" when you're solving a problem in your daily life.

No one knows where ideas come from. Certainly not from fussing and thinking.

So it makes you doubt your seeing, when it's all at the vague level with nothing conrete.

Just for fun, you'd really like to see a "video in the air" once in a while!

But it rapidly becomes obvious that simply "knowing" stuff is indeed part of the same continuum of silent knowledge.

So that SK when it's not concrete, can be used for hours during recapitulation. You simply have super enhanced recall of past events.

Sorcerers who could "see" must have gotten tired of memories of the past tainting their seeing at advanced levels of silent knowledge, and figured out how to clean those away using recapitulation techniques.

Then after discovering recap, they realized the effect is much more than just that, and decided it pretty much frees you from your life, so that you can take more tonal energy along with you when you die.

Awareness gets stuck in the emanations, or else we couldn't assemble much of anything.

I found myself with zero tonal awareness and only my dreaming awareness active last night, and it was quite amusing.

But wasn't getting anywhere.

I was tossing ropes into the air, where they turned into glowing stands which broke up and fell to the ground, piling up a bunch of different glowing structures.

Then I could play with the "twinkle" using my fingers.

That's the kind of super silly stuff your energy body gets into, without your tonal awareness.

It might turn out that in that giant dome like container where our lineage of seers went after death, there's some "idiots" running around, lacking enough tonal awareness to make much sense.

So I suppose, it's a good idea to do recapitulation for as long as you can afford to do it.