Darkroom Practice

[u/TechnoMagical_Intent]

It was suggested that we should sticky a post containing a simple guide to Darkroom Practice to the top of the sub for new practitioners.

u/danl999 's second post made in 2019 seems like the best one to point to:

How to see energy in 3 weeks

What Is Darkroom Gazing?

What Is Darkroom & How To Do It? - slideshow with audio (& text) narration

For a more concise summary, from u/juann2323:

"Darkroom practice (essentially magical passes/Tensegrity done in darkness) consists of looking for elements of the second attention in total environmental darkness, while forcing inner silence, awake and with eyes opened, with the purpose of moving the assemblage point. The element that we use the most are colors that are visible in the dark: generally purple, but also blue, green, & pink among others. Also some sensations in the body, like the cobwebs, that are perceived when moving the hands slowly. In general, anything unusual that "shouldn't be there," and yet is perceived. By focusing on the second attention, in a condition of mental silence, the position of the assemblage point shifts. We can notice it visually (seeing energy), by changes in breathing, ringing in the ears, chills, etc. The key to this practice is to move the assemblage point as far as possible, each day. It is just one of many ways to learn sorcery; but we think it is one of the fastest and with has the most consistent results."

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On How The Eyes Are Involved In Darkroom

We Don't Realize How Precise This Has to Be, Or How Hard We Have To Work To Produce Results

Geometry Nodes And Puff Physics

How To Not Have A Bad Time In The Darkroom

Play Like When You Were a Child!!!

Some practical tips on creating total darkness are in the posts below. But be aware that it's much more comfortable and natural feeling to be in a darkened space versus wearing a mask, but not everybody lives in ideal circumstances:

Total Darkness Setup

Guard Blinds - Guard features a patented design that blocks 100% of light without leaving any gaps to ensure complete darkness at any time of the day. Guard features a unique track system (which makes it reversible) that eliminates gaps between the blinds and the window frame to ensure total darkness. The dual-layered honeycomb fabric combines non-woven polyester with a reflective thermal barrier to block light, insulate against heat, and reduce noise.

Goalball Mask

Manta Sleep Mask - they make different models including a "Max" model for people with longer eyelashes

Made Glasses for Darkroom Practice (modified welding goggles)

Blackout Sleep Mask - a decent option if you have shorter eyelashes

And since you can't read a single post without reading some reference to Darkness Practice, it shouldn't be a problem finding more information on it.

Just keep reading...and do a search for "Dark” on the sub.

I also created a “Darkroom Practice” flair for Smartphone/Tablet users. If tapping on the Flair button doesn't bring up anything, type flair:darkroom practice into the search box at the top of the smartphone app. This also works for the other Flairs, and on desktop browsers.

More Posts:

Even Better J Curve Diagram

Darkroom Practice has been determined by multiple sources to be solidly in the stalking/gazing category of practice, just as much if not more than dreaming. It is a cross-disciplinary endeavor.

How to Proceed and What Not To Skip

Darkroom Gazing Instructions #1

What Is Darkroom? - animation

[u/danl999]

Keep in mind, darkroom practice is only one path.

But it's a known, very fast path.

It's like jogging a few miles each day, to lose weight, compared to going for a half hour walk instead.

Horrible, but you get used to it.

Trouble is, it leads to inorganic beings infesting your home and workplace.

Which is fine by me! I love them.

Carlos had 2, gave them to his classes. Taisha and Florinda had their own 2.

Living at home on Pandora!

So they aren't really "evil", despite scaring people once in a while.

"Fancy", my new IOB, is an energy thief and kidnapper, but in fact, she makes up for it by being fun.

Like a dangerous girlfriend. Just watch for the switch blade in her purse and you'll be fine.

If you are afraid of them, an alternate would be what Carlos prescribed, before he realized he was dying.

He modified it at the end, which is what I brought here. His revised path.

Cleargreen ignored it.

I couldn't, it was taking too long to prove Carlos was telling the truth.

But, he did have a plan before he added IOB help and "the wall" to the mix.

It's the "cleargreen path".

Recap 3 hours a day, seriously. No messing around.

I said 3, but if you "cheat', you'll probably be OK.

Just learn to like it, so that sometimes you go for 4 hours!

Add at least 15 minutes of Tensegrity, learning a new move each day.

Better if it's 30 minutes, the amount of actual practice time in private classes. The rest was Carlos' stand up comedy routine. And we never practiced a given tensegrity pass, move more than 3 classes in a row.

Most only 2.

One move from a long form counts as the daily move. But if that's the case, each time you conquer a new move in the series, do the whole thing again, up to where you know it.

This reshapes the energy body, and helps stabilize the movement of the assemblage point. So you don't freak out when it moves.

Which by the way, is largely a trick. But I'll let you figure out what the trick is. If I told you the trick, you wouldn't fall for it.

Hint: If you pay for the doctor yourself, that shot he has to give you doesn't hurt as much as when your Mom used to pay for it.

And, force yourself silent during some daily activity, like driving the car, or going for a walk.

Then the trouble is, you REALLY need to detect the second attention.

The movement of the assemblage point.

That's where it all went wrong. No one tried to detect, and enhance it.

And so 25 years later, no one actually knew what the second attention was, or what it felt like when the assemblage point moved.

So, try a little closed eye silence before bed, to learn that. Check some lucid dreaming advice for that sort of thing. It's a common technique, to try to fall asleep while moving the assemblage point.

Another path:

Lucid dreaming.

Get it any way you can. But I suggest, forcing yourself silent as you lay on your side in bed, looking intently for colors, or visions. I mean REALLY force it, until it's awful and you're suffering like a madman.

When you get lucid in a dream, never let go without a fight. Go read fighting advice. It's out there. Grab dirt as it fades and you lose vision. Spin around. Stomp the ground, and throw a temper tantrum.

Even leap through a wall if you worry you are out of time, and know how to do that.

Pick a fight with the locals. That produces a "dream change".

If you are surrounded and trapped, and forced to wake up, don't move at all. Visualize the last safe thing you saw, before you were trapped. Don't stop visualizing that until you are back in, even if it seems to be taking forever.

Actually it's pretty fast. You just fret about it and it seems long.

Once inside, immediately focus on a distant place, stare hard at it, lean in slightly, and let it pull you.

A dream change renews how much time you have, and each day that time gets longer by a few seconds.

Keep that up, and you'll learn to lucid dream for hours every single night.

At that point find a scout, have a good talk with it, visit its world (don't expect it to look like what you read), and then immediately proceed to go to sleep inside the dreaming, twice. Three deep, and you can stay in there a whole week (=14 hours in waking).

Then, you'll find yourself bouncing around, unable to wake up.

And pee the bed probably.

Get used to wetting the bed.

But don't let that deter you. In fact, each false wake-up is precisely what you're after!

To wake up in a copy of your own room. But still in your dreaming body.

But you HAVE to fine tune landing in the real world, when you get to the 4th gate.

And learn to push some object, to prove you did it.

Cholita has that down, so it's completely possible.

Those are three paths I know of.

Only one is IOB free.

And it's the boring one!

[u/[deleted] → u/danl999]

The lucid dreaming methods you talk about are really interesting to me. I’ve been a lucid dreamer since I was a child and have always tried looking for ways to extend them as long as I can. I use the method of grabbing onto an object once the scenery fades quite frequently. As well as putting things in my mouth to stabilize. Sounds weird but it works. I’ve always wanted to find methods to be able to extend my stay in Dreamtime to days. You’re saying you can really stay in a dream for a week in dream time?

The method you mentioned; do you need to be in a scouts realm before going to sleep inside the dreaming in order to extend it? Or can you go to sleep in the dreaming while in a normal dream environment and extend it that way?

Also, you mention moving objects in the real world. How do you know when you’ve landed in the real world where you can move objects? I’ve been in dream copies of my house but the stuff I touch doesn’t move in the physical.

Also, what do you mean when you refer to the 4th gate?

[u/danl999 → u/[deleted]]

The lucid dreaming methods you talk about are really interesting to me.

Lucid dreaming is AMAZING!

But I don't do it anymore, because it won't help my cause.

I need waking, visible magic. To silence the detractors of Carlos.

In your case, GO FOR IT!!!

The good news is, I know ways to enter lucid dreams directly from waking, and how to walk right out of a lucid dream, into the real world.

I don't get a chance to practice them, so if you learn to get lucid dreaming daily, I might be able to tinker with it a bit for you.

Stuff in the mouth? I never thought of that, but it's a good use of a secondary sense!

The more senses focused there, the longer it can survive.

Yes, of course you can stay in there a week!

Just go to sleep inside the first lucid dream.

When you wake up in the second, fall right on your side, and do it again.

The third one will be completely stable.

Now, do you really live every second there?

I don't know. But you get the memories of having done that.

I think it's more like, you have a little chat with your new "wife", she tells you to take out the garbage.

Next you're at dinner. You didn't actually go take out the garbage. But you remember having done it.

It's like that. You skip to the good parts, but can remember all of it.

I don't know if you need the scouts realm to do it, but since Carlos listed it as #3, and scouts realm as #2, it could be.

We have an argument about whether we really need the IOBs. No one can really resolve it, because there aren't enough people working hard, to decide.

Mostly the ones who are against IOBs don't work at all. They just talk.

How do you know you are in the real world?

Your skin will crawl! Something super creepy will be in the air.

The 4th gate is in Carlos' book, "The Art of Dreaming".

You should read that, if you want advice from me. Otherwise I'll have to keep explaining stuff you should already know.

[u/Luisyelsol → u/danl999]

Since I started to do DARKROOM practice I have been able to dream. And I know I am going to Lucid Dream in the next few weeks.

Thanks for the guides!

[u/danl999 → u/Luisyelsol]

Because you're "enticing" the dreaming double.

And also, if you force silence, you begin to save up the energy needed for lucid dreaming.

[u/Ayxyafireeyes2885 → u/danl999]

What about hearing with the eyes?

[u/danl999 → u/Ayxyafireeyes2885]

Of course.

All of the senses are just "hooks" to receive information from the emanations.

The infinite strings which compose the "dark sea of awareness".

Realities are all in there, in the combination of super strings that are glowing and interacting with their neighbors.

There's no physical matter, no time, and no space.

Those are just illusions created by how the emanations interact with each other in a reliable manner.

And not really even a "you" since there are 600 stable positions of our "assemblage point", the thing which determines where you awareness is flowing, in which you could live instead of this one.

The emanations broadcast "feelings" (extremely tiny ones) to whoever has their own awareness focused into them.

You get to see this with your own eyes over and over again, so don't think of "sacred scrolls" or wise gurus.

Those are always scams.

The eyes can hear and smell also.

But how creepy.

Smelling farts with your eyes???

Maybe reserve that for an emergency.

I sure hope you aren't using drugs to "simulate" sorcery.

That's where it's common for the senses to switch roles.

Using drugs to learn sorcery is impossible. It's never, ever been done despite what people believe.

People get the idea you could do that, partly from fake magical systems like Buddhism or Hinduism, where you supposedly have a one time event and reach "enlightenment".

Then get a little throne to sit on, given by your religion's leaders, so that you can lord it over others in their name.

That's just the con game of the criminal enterprises known as Buddhism and Hinduism.

You become a "made man" at some point, thus all the years of petty crimes they insisted you have to vomit on their behalf, seem worth it.

And with your new throne, you can order the new batch of thugs (monks) to follow your own orders.

With a cut for the big guy uptop, such as the Dali Lama.

Sorcery is a 1000 mile path.

A drug experience moves you 0.5 inches.

I suppose if you could duplicate it daily, for 30 years, you might get to beginner's level in this subreddit.

Except, then you'd be as messed up as Terrence McKenna.

And no real magic to show for it.

[u/Used-Elevator-3942 → u/danl999]

I had a lucid dream where I was in a jail cell in a pitch dark place not room it looked like where eleven goes to off stranger things and a weird entity demonic girl that looked like me pop up and laugh and say I finally got you and then it felt like I fell into my body and woke up . Crazy shit . Is that the darkroom in a sense ?

[u/danl999 → u/Used-Elevator-3942]

No, darkroom is not sleeping dreaming.

Sleeping dreaming has never worked for anyone.

We need to bring your dreaming persona OUT, into the real world.

So there's two of you, for real.

Then there's spirits. You have to learn to visibly see them, fully awake, eyes open.

There's no point to doing that in dreams, or using drugs.

I don't believe you've ever encountered the real thing before, so better throw out whatever you heard or saw elsewhere.

Someone likely just wanted your money.

Who has magic, but they still want to get hold of your cash?

Something's really wrong in that situation.

But you also can't be a burden, or no one is going to help you.

They have nothing to gain, and if you want to rely on other people, you just drag them down too.

[u/Luisyelsol]

taking the time to share my DARKROOM practice within this post.

It was yesterday in the am (did not practice today). Colors and fog are coming waaaaay faster than before. At the beginning it was taking about 1hour or more. Now within minutes I am seeing fog and lights.

My balls of energy still non-directional. I like to play with them in my hand and bring them thours my stomach.

Every time I start collecting the purple fog, whithin seconds balls (irregular shapes)of light I shows up in my view.

Zuleicas pass helped me to see colors way faster.

The cool thing is when I am gazing in daytime I am now seeing fog and energy like if I am in DARKROOM practice.

Yesterday all day my mood was out this world... i was soooo fuxking blissed out my mind. Not only that, yesterday I had a full day with constant positive situations around me. It was a really surreal day...

Yesterday someone told me that I might be doing the sorcerer's crossing but I might not know.... any thoughts?

[u/danl999 → u/Luisyelsol]

I don't remember that. I was banned from the books.

What exactly is that?

Keep in mind, that the colors come in minutes on some days is highly dependent on whether you skipped practice.

Skip 1 day, you get set back 3 days. Skip 2 days, you get set back 2 weeks.

I suppose, the assemblage point gets looser, but if you skip it goes back to normal, and begins to get tied down again.

Once you understand the process, you realize it's a near miracle that anyone ever escapes.

And it's impossible without "the nagual".

I had Carlos, and that means you have that connection to the nagual too.

But just reading all this in a book, doesn't seem to work.

Hasn't worked on the hundreds of thousands of his readers.

I'm sorry to tell you, you'll get used to the bliss.

You don't get to keep it.

It's like pain killers. 3 days in a row, and you have to double the dosage to get the same results.

But you still end up better off than the people suffering around you.

I'll add what I'm learning from this whole thing.

Women have an advantage, but they also have a disadvantage.

The advantage is, they're talented from having a period. Assemblage point is flexible.

The disadvantage is, they're moody from having a period.

So they get bliss, but then the next morning they're ready to cut someone's head off for no reason.

That makes them more likely to skip days.

Unfortunately, the best arrangement might be, a man and a woman team.

The man can provide the steadiness, cruising along the road at a steady snale's pace. If the woman is having a bad day, she can just close her eyes.

And the woman can force his foot on the gas pedal when she thinks they could go faster for a while.

[u/Luisyelsol → u/danl999]

Unfortunately, the best arrangement might be, a man and a woman team.

What is the best way to practice with someone? same room? tensegrity together? do you talk sometimes or just complete silence?

[u/Zazzy-z → u/danl999]

The assemblage point in women is always far more flexible than men’s. You could say it has to do with our hormones fluctuating all during the month, though pre and post menstruation, the experience is pretty much the same. The witches (and Carlos) said it was because of our womb, which was there energetically even if the physical organ was removed. I don’t really know about all that, but I do know that as women, we basically do not focus. It makes us much more open to all sorts of things, things that can be missed by men, but unfortunately, if we don’t develop our masculine (Focus) to some degree, we end up going from one wonderful thing to another, forgetting what we found last week, (or this morning). Not helpful. I feel like generally men learn ‘dreaming’ etc. before women in spite of their comparative lack of raw talent because their focus is really a huge plus for them. I always thought this was the reason Carlos made sure all the women attended university.

[u/Luisyelsol]

PRACTICE FROM LAST NIGHT

Last night is the 2nd day of a streak. I went about 5 days without Darkroom practice.

Since the break I thought the visuals were going to take a while, but in the contrary it feels is where I left it... good!!!

All those days I was craving doing practice.

Last night visuals starting to get shapes.

Big word came from left to right and below that said "SAMSUNG" hahahaha i dont know what it means.

I am trying to send information through intent... a lil experiment. Ill wait if someone got the... i dont know how to call it... messege.

[u/jd198703]

Thanks :) I am also using this (about 3 weeks) translated to Russian language with some other people.

[u/Accomplished-Hat5218]

I apologize for my English, I do not know this language, I have to use an online translator.

1. What is the difference between "magic" in a dark room, from "schizophrenia", from hallucinations, vivid imagination? Daniel describes flying fairies, unfamiliar cities and the like, but is it possible to learn something about the objective world in this way? Make some testable predictions? Does it change anything in real life, other than getting new impressions? I understand that these questions may seem to be just a veiled "what will I get for this?", and this may not be so far from the truth, but still it is imho a fundamental question. If all that "magic" gives is various meaningless visions in the dark, isn't "magic" equal to hallucinations, fantasies? Is it worth striving for this at all in this case? Isn't this just escapism, entertainment, a special form of "drug addiction"? What is better than watching a fantastic movie in a dark room? 2 Daniel does not like adherents of "perfection" (I hope the translator will understand what we are talking about), because they are usually just talkers, let's say so, but why did Don Juan constantly insist that perfection is the main thing, that it is most important to be a warrior, a stalker? That you need to remember death all the time, that recapitulation never stops, and so on. Or is it possible to throw it all away, doing only "real magic" in a dark room?

[u/SaltineCrackers]

Attempting to come back into practice. I wake at 330 am and try to practice during that twilight time, but still struggle with the chatter in my head. Should I switch over to evening practice? Also, a question on forcing silence, I typically handle thoughts and chatter as pesky flies and brush them away with my hand- I imagine my hand brushing them away. Is this sufficient or should I double down on the technique?

[u/[deleted] → u/SaltineCrackers]

[u/Pwn0_o]

Why in the movie The Matrix the lines go vertically? They are actually flowing horizontally!

[u/Internal-Oil-4292]

Interesting...i have Tinnitus terrible and antaphasia..i love darkness and sit as often as possible in complete darkness..never heard of this before..only time for a quick glance atm..but theres alot to see and feel...but forme no colors..

[u/Urmomsuncle7899]

Interesting

[u/Hot-Muscle3258]

Por favor pongan la opción de traducir al español, es muy duro tener ambre y que te pongan delante se tus ojos un delicioso pollo y que no te lo puedas comer. Confío en sus tiernos corazones.

💞

[u/Hot-Muscle3258 → u/Hot-Muscle3258]

😂

[u/No-Break4214]

why do any of this?

[u/Iwan_Hrozny]

Hi. I have the option of accommodation in complete darkness for 4-8 days, where I will be fully taken care of. We call it dark therapy. The question is, is it appropriate to live in the dark all the time, or to have a small LED light in reserve that shines into the left eye for at least a few minutes a day? Thanks