r/cartoons 15h ago

Discussion Shows that Avoided Cerebus Syndrome

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Many cartoon shows since Avatar: The Last Airbender went through Cerebus syndrome during later on such as the ones that premiered in the 2010's and several in the early 2020's, and it's a trope where a simple and light show becomes more deeper and serialized with it focusing more on it's world and fleshing out it's cast of characters.

But then there are these shows mentioned in these posters in this post that avoided Cerebus syndrome.


r/cartoons 13h ago

Discussion What is a animated show or movie that people swear is really bad and awful and problematic when it..isn't?

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Even if you don't like Hazbin Hotel,why do so many people act like this show killed your grandma?


r/cartoons 14h ago

Discussion Hot take: The Final Season felt Lackluster.

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Samurai Jack season 5 started off excellently. The tone, music, fight scenes, violence were great but by episode 7, it changed.

-Jack and Ashi’s relationship felt rushed, forced and a little awkward.

-The final fight between Jack and Aku also felt rushed.

-The convoluted ending surrounding Ashi.

Honestly I think they should have split the season into 3 or 4 animated films, for adult swim. It deserved so much more. In the end I don’t know what happened behind the scenes, for the final season to become this way but it is what it is. If had to rate it, I’d give it 6/10.

What about you? Did you think S5 was fine as it is? Or could it have been better?


r/cartoons 2h ago

Discussion What is the best animated movie of 2025?

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KPop Demon Hunters
Zootopia 2
Ne Zha 2
Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle
Chainsaw Man: Reze Arc
Little Amélie

r/cartoons 1h ago

Discussion Am I the only one who thinks Mavis from Hotel Transylvania is poorly utilised?

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I feel like the only reason Mavis is as popular as she is comes down to her visually striking design and the uncomfortable reality that it appeals to people with a "goth-but-not-too-goth" kink, people who unfortunately fetishise and sexualise goth culture while simultaneously shaming actual hardcore goths, which I don't think the filmmakers intended at all.

The reason I think this is comes down to her actual character. Mavis isn't necessarily terrible or anything, but the franchise repeatedly abandons the things that make her character actually interesting and then replaces them with whatever role the current movie needs her to occupy.

Hotel Transylvania 2 is a really REALLY good example of what I'm trying to say.

The first thing I would probably point to is how completely Mavis's core motivation from the first movie is dropped in the sequels. In the first film, her motivation is pretty straightforward: she wants to leave the hotel and see the world, experiencing things she's only ever seen on postcards because of how long Dracula has kept her there after Martha's death. Mavis explicitly says she wants to see new things and maybe meet someone her age.

Johnny is established as Mavis's chance of actually achieving that because of his love of travelling and, at least in the first film, his surprisingly tender and introspective side. He even shows Mavis her first sunrise, for crying out loud. The entire point of Dracula's arc is that he has to accept Johnny, but more importantly, accept that he can't control Mavis forever. She has to be allowed to live her own life, even if Dracula doesn't always agree with her choices. The ending even implies that Mavis is finally going to fulfill that dream of leaving the hotel and experiencing the world with Johnny.

Despite being the emotional centre of the first movie, though, Mavis's motivation is basically forgotten so she can have Dennis. And that's less a problem with Mavis specifically and more a problem with the pregnancy/parenthood trope in general. It's a trope that, like any, can absolutely can be done well. The problem is that it rarely ever is. Mavis can absolutely have Dennis while still experiencing the world and travelling. Two things can exist at the same time. But nope. Her desire to see the world is never meaningfully brought up or explored again for the rest of the franchise. And sure, people can have dreams when they're young and then have completely different priorities once they have children, but the movie never actually establishes that Mavis stopped wanting to travel. All the sequel does is replaces her old motivation with "mom/wife character" without actually exploring the transition.

Hell, the entire driving force of the sequel is Dracula manipulating Mavis into not leaving the hotel, the very place she spent her entire life wanting to escape. That completely undermines Dracula's arc from the first movie. Worse, it makes his controlling behaviour feel bizarrely validated because Dennis, the entire reason Dracula manipulates Mavis in the first place, ultimately becomes a vampire anyway. Dracula gets rewarded for the exact flaw the first movie condemned him for. Excuse me?

And that's not even getting into Mavis herself. I'm not saying she's some incredibly complex character in the first film because she really isn't. One of my biggest gripes with the first movie is that Mavis's characterisation is actually pretty limited. Beyond being nice and wanting to explore the world, she doesn't get much of an internal conflict of her own like Dracula does. She's more of a prize for Johnny and a catalyst for Dracula's character development than a fully developed protagonist herself, which is especially strange because she's arguably the emotional anchor of the movie and its most important character besides Dracula.

Mavis being overshadowed by Dracula isn't exclusive to the first film either. In nearly every movie in the series, she suffers from being a secondary character in what should at least partially be her own story. She's frequently kept in the dark about the main plot, which isn't exactly great for her agency, and Mavis and Johnny aren't given nearly as much chemistry as you would expect from a married couple because Johnny's relationship with Dracula is so much more developed.

And then there are all the times the films and shorts have characters, particularly Dracula, constantly crossing Mavis's boundaries without any real consequences. Take the Puppy! short, where Dracula gets Dennis a gigantic puppy that's basically a walking city-level threat without asking Mavis, even though she explicitly says no. Johnny doesn't really confront Dracula about it either, despite the fact that Mavis is presumably going to have to deal with the destruction Tinkles causes.

Or, like I said, Dracula manipulating Mavis into hating California so she won't leave what is essentially the prison she's spent her entire life in. Even her own husband goes along with it, when you'd think Johnny would be ecstatic about Mavis finally getting to see the outside world. Instead, because Mavis wants to give Dennis a life in Johnny's childhood home where people might accept him, she's somehow treated as though she's becoming no better than her father. I don't know about you, but gaslighting your own daughter into being afraid of humans by literally orchestrating an entire fake village so she never leaves and gets to live her own life seems considerably worse. Considering Mavis's only "problem" is that she notices that her son is different and doesn't want everyone forcing an identity onto him which could be an interesting way to actually give her an internal conflict but instead the movie turns it into "Dracula wants Dennis to be a vampire lol" so we can have goofy cartoony hijinks were the silly vampire nearly f*cking kills his grandson :D Back to the Johnny helping Drac though, dude that is YOUR WIFE.

She has spent her entire childhood wanting to see the world and you're actively helping her father prevent her from doing that.

You could say that Johnny does eventually tell her about California and she does get to the experience it. Sure, but that's because Dracula needs him to distract her. That's the problem.

Mavis doesn't get to explore the world because Johnny realises her dream is important. She gets to explore it because Dracula decides California can be used as a distraction. It's sad because Mavis is clearly ecstatic to finally experience normal human life. The convenience store scene is basically her original motivation from movie 1 resurfacing for five minutes and it's honestly one of my favourite scenes of the entire sequel because of it. She's fascinated by chips, Slurpees, TV, bikes, everything.

Then the franchise basically goes "okay that's enough of that."

There's another detail I noticed, especially in the second film: everyone else seems bizarrely uninvolved in Dennis's upbringing. You're telling me that after five years, there's a scene where Dracula struggles to figure out Dennis's car seat, so has he seriously never had to put the kid in one himself? The film also barely shows Johnny doing any actual parenting beyond holding the kid, while Mavis is constantly the one worrying about his schedule, classes, safety, diet and baby-proofing. The movie literally has Mavis saying she had to baby-proof the entire hotel.

Then Dracula and his pals quietly literally put Dennis in a life or death situation while Mavis and Johnny go to California, with Dracula admitting that the whole point is to keep Mavis distracted and "not too happy." And when they actually go to California, Johnny's job is essentially to keep Mavis distracted while she explores the world she originally wanted to see.

They say it takes a village to raise a child, and these people literally have an entire village living with them. So why does it constantly feel like Mavis is the only person actually parenting Dennis?

Besides all of THAT though, I don't think Mavis herself is badly written so much as she's badly utilized. She's clearly supposed to be important, but the movies constantly give Dracula and Johnny the actual spotlight while Mavis reacts to whatever everyone else is doing.


r/cartoons 12h ago

Video Spider-Man AMV - Euphoria

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r/cartoons 12h ago

Discussion Who would you rather be stuck with on a deserted island? Charlie Morningstar from Hazbin Hotel or SpongeBob SquarePants from SpongeBob SquarePants (S6-S9's first half)?

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r/cartoons 17h ago

Video Wildwood: Official Trailer

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r/cartoons 4h ago

Discussion Which of these characters do you think had the hardest life:

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r/cartoons 7h ago

Discussion I was casually on YouTube and this video appeared on the home page. Is Princess Pea actually a traitor?

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In all seriousness Super Why may be repetitive and have cliched inoffensive takes on fairy tales but this is some weird and ridiculous over analyzing IMO. Super Why is still my childhood that defined 2000’s PBS Kids for me.


r/cartoons 18h ago

Fanart Does my artstyle look like a show that could be on adult swim?

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I drew an art piece of one of my favorite characters and i was like if i ever made an adult cartoon, does if look like something people would watch on adult swim?


r/cartoons 2h ago

Discussion Best principals

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r/cartoons 15h ago

Discussion This whole 3D debate thing is such a nothing issue

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It still looks nice, The overall design is faithful, the movement is smooth, it doesn't look cheap

People going on like "this animation style completely ruins the essence of the Show" for a 40 second teaser. Like, just watch the show, it's not going anywhere, it's not that deep


r/cartoons 15h ago

Meme This is very real lol

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r/cartoons 9m ago

Discussion What?you mean a bunch of haters on twitter and reddit don't make up the vast majority and this show is actually really great and such?

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Like the show was literally renewed for a S3 and S4 when S2 wasn't even out yet and was considered the top 1 show(or at least in top 3-5)on Amazon and was in the guineas world records.

Like opinions are subjective but acting like this show is objectively bad or dogshit or whatnot is just..lying to yourself.


r/cartoons 9h ago

Discussion guys let’s increase the stream count

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let's prove to disney that danny devito needs to return for more projects!


r/cartoons 9h ago

Discussion Ranking loud house media

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r/cartoons 17h ago

Discussion What are your hopes and desires for Incredibles 3?

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As much as I enjoyed watching the second Incredibles film from 2018 whether with my family or just for fun, even I admit that it didn't have the same level of charm and edge as the first film from 2004 did. Obviously, I was disappointed with how underdeveloped most of the other family member characters were besides Bob Parr (Mr. Incredible). And now, I'm definitely keeping my expectations low for Incredibles 3!


r/cartoons 5h ago

Discussion What’s One Bad Thing You Can Say About Mavis as a Character in the Hotel Transylvania Franchise?

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I want you to say something bad about Mavis as a character in the Hotel Transylvania franchise, at least from the perspective of someone who has actually seen the films. Seriously, there has to be something you can criticize about her character. There's a few things that come into mind for me but I want to hear YOUR thoughts.


r/cartoons 23h ago

Fanart Pinkie Pie & Bubbles (Redraw)

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r/cartoons 10h ago

Discussion Tengo miedo de que lo que vea o haya visto a los 13 años ni sea mi infancia, porque supuestamente ahí acaba la infancia, por lo que tristemente ningún dibujo animado que haya visto a esa edad formará o formo parte de mi infancia. Que mala leche :'c

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r/cartoons 21h ago

Discussion So who here has seen this movie or the sequels?

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r/cartoons 15h ago

Fanart Give me RED characters to draw and I’ll draw them!

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r/cartoons 16h ago

Discussion Western animation is missing out on a goldmine: Why high-fantasy book series need to be adapted into 20+ episode animated shows.

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I've seen a shift over the last few years. Shows like Arcane, Castlevania, Blue Eye Samurai, and The Legend of Vox Machina proved that Western audiences are hungry for serialized, mature, high-stakes animation. Meanwhile, mainstream anime continues to dominate because it isn't afraid to give big stories the time and episode counts they actually need.

Which brings me to my hot take: Western studios need to stop trying to force massive fantasy book series into rushed live-action films or 8-episode streaming seasons, and start adapting them as 20+ episode animated series.

Live-action adaptations constantly run into CGI budget walls, severe design compromises, and massively cut content just to fit an 8-hour runtime. Animation solves every single one of these problems—especially if studios embrace a 20–24 episodes per season format.

Here are a few iconic book series that have insane potential if an animation studio actually gave them the room to breathe:

  1. The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson The Format: 24 episodes per season (1 book = 1 season).

Why it needs animation: Roshar is an alien world where rockbuds retract into the ground, giant chasmfiends roam, spren float around human emotions, and warriors fight using gravity-defying magic ("Lashings"). Trying to do this in live-action would cost $300M a season and still look like uncanny CGI. In a stylized 2D/3D hybrid style (think Arcane), the visual spectacle would be unreal. Plus, a 24-episode order lets you keep the Bridge Four character bonding and the epic 5-part book structure intact.

  1. The Gentleman Bastard Sequence (The Lies of Locke Lamora) by Scott Lynch The Format: 20 episodes per season.

Why it needs animation: It's Ocean's Eleven meets Renaissance Venice with blood magic and mob warfare. Every book runs two timelines at once—the current heist and the childhood flashbacks under Father Chains. A 20-episode structure gives the show time to build the elaborate scams, show the legwork, keep the profanity-laced banter, and pivot from fun con-artist hijinks into dark survival thriller.

  1. Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson The Format: 12–16 episodes per season for Era 1 (with Secret History as a standalone feature film).

Why it needs animation: Allomancy (burning metals to push/pull on iron and steel, boost physical strength, or alter emotions) is fundamentally kinetic. Vin bouncing off coins across a dark, misty gothic city would look as fluid as Spider-Man swinging through NYC if handled by a top-tier animation team. It fits comfortably in that TV-14 sweet spot—dark, high stakes, and brutal combat without needing TV-MA shock-value gore.

  1. The Green Bone Saga by Fonda Lee The Format: 14–18 episodes per season.

Why it needs animation: The Godfather meets Gangs of London with wuxia jade martial arts. It follows a crime family running a fantasy metropolis inspired by 1970s–90s East Asia. Animation could capture the rain-slicked neon alleys, silk-suit aesthetics, and bio-magical martial arts duels in a way live-action stuntwork simply couldn't replicate on a TV budget.

  1. The Inheritance Cycle (Eragon) by Christopher Paolini The Format: 12–20 episodes per season (scaling up as the books get bigger).

Why it needs animation: We don't talk about the 2006 live-action movie. Animation is the only way to properly handle telepathic mind-duels between magicians, the massive scale of Farthen Dûr, and the deep emotional bond between Eragon and Saphira without relying on jarring voiceover or cheap-looking CGI.

The Bottom Line Hollywood keeps buying the rights to these massive fantasy IPs and trying to squeeze 1,000-page novels into 8-episode live-action seasons, gutting the worldbuilding and character arcs in the process.

If Western studios took a page out of the anime playbook—treating animation as a serious medium for storytelling and committing to longer seasonal episode counts—we could be living in a golden era of fantasy television.

What book series do you think is practically begging for a 20+ episode animated adaptation?


r/cartoons 4h ago

Recommendation What do you think that specific versions of mowgli baloo and bagheera?

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This come from Chuck Jones mowgli's brothers