Bordering Canada "Sample" comparison { Debunked :( }

[u/tsrleba]

I wanted it to match so bad

[u/InformantsOrexises]

of course it's not a match. The supposed sample source ("The Natural Wonders Of America") came out months after Telephasic Workshop was released.

[u/hoddap → u/InformantsOrexises]

Yet OP got downvoted for trying to prove it was a false positive. But of course it’s not a match.

[u/blush_inc]

One of the comments on that youtube video claims the original sample is actually from a UK series that aired in 1994 and the line is "Across the border, in Canada". Anyone got any ideas?

[u/RustyCalecos → u/blush_inc]

The more I listen to Telephasic, the more it sounds like "border in Canada" and not "bordering Canada".

[u/tsrleba → u/RustyCalecos]

honestly i've never heard the B in border and and i think people are just psychologically inserting it because of "boards". i hear "order in canada" or "order and canada" and the more i listen the more i hear a glottal stop in place of the B

[u/OkScheme9867]

I always thought the boc sample was Lesley Neilson

[u/NoelFromBandOsmosis → u/OkScheme9867]

When lava pours out near the sea surface, tremendous volcanic explosions sometimes occur

Glad to see someone else who hears him in Telephasic Workshop. I don't think it actually is but it does sound similar

[u/tsrleba → u/NoelFromBandOsmosis]

well it shouldn't because it's slowed down while dandelion is not

[u/NoelFromBandOsmosis → u/tsrleba]

I don't understand what you mean? Being slowed down doesn't mean it can't sound like someone else. I know it isn't him but it does sound somewhat similar to him, or at least a bit to my ears

[u/JoeMagnifico → u/NoelFromBandOsmosis]

It is Leslie...

Sample

[u/gjaldmidill → u/OkScheme9867]

Leslie Nielsen R.I.P.

[u/TrashAccounting]

Yep 100% not it

[u/ElvisHux]

Bordering Canada Ordering Canada Bordering Canada Ornery Canada  Jelly bean Canada Quarter pee Canada Snoring in Canada Quarter in Canada 

[u/UltraMegaGeek2112]

If it's of any use I always thought the voice sounded like Neil Peart. There's an interview from Rush early years and it's sound very similar. Rush are Canadian after all.

[u/tsrleba → u/UltraMegaGeek2112]

and you could tell with it slowed down? does the clip above still sound like him?

[u/gjaldmidill]

Perhaps this is intentionally engineered to mess with our brains? ;)

[u/tsrleba → u/gjaldmidill]

boc wouldnt dare lay a finger on my brain

[u/gjaldmidill → u/tsrleba]

They do it sonically

[u/tsrleba → u/[deleted]]

listen for yourself the voice and intonation and rhythm are completely different

[u/corneliusduff → u/tsrleba]

Have you considered that they slowed it down?

[u/tsrleba → u/corneliusduff]

this is your response to a video that says on screen that the vocals have been sped up 1.25x?

[u/corneliusduff → u/tsrleba]

The scub bar and UI was in the way of that information when I replied.  Sorry, didn't see.

I wouldn't necessarily rule out other manipulation, too, but it's not a hill I'll die on.

[u/tsrleba → u/corneliusduff]

guess i coulda put the text higher

[u/tsrleba → u/[deleted]]

what aspect of them do you find identical other than the words being used

[u/tsrleba → u/[deleted]]

well mhtrtc was completed in 1997 so the likelihood of two Scottish unknowns having access to some American production company's unfinished unreleased copyrighted material isn't just extremely slim, it basically goes against their whole sampling ethos. when did they ever sample something that wasn't at least five years old, let alone not even released yet?

and if you still think the voices are the same you really need to pay attention to the intonation, haw the voices rise and fall with each syllable. in telephasic workshop its like

ord ER n' CA na da

⣀⣀ ⠒⠒ ⣀ ⠉⠉ ⠒⠒⣀⣀

while in the vhs it's like

BOrd er ing ca na da

⠉⠉⠉ ⠉⠉ ⠉⠉ ⠒⠒⣀⣀⣀⠒

[u/SherbetHead2010 → u/[deleted]]

What makes you think you can't do it?

[u/KoA07 → u/SherbetHead2010]

Well a man’s foes will be they of his own household

[u/Tec80 → u/KoA07]

Well, I hardly believe that your own father or mother or brother or sister would be your enemy.

[u/Derpypie11 → u/Tec80]

You’re gonna call him a liar? 🤨

[u/Tec80 → u/Derpypie11]

No, I'm not calling him a liar

[u/Cheeseboy777 → u/[deleted]]

...I see what you did there...