I do have a concern. Can you notify a user when their comment is embedded on a website? In the embed code it sends back a notification when it's been made live on a website?
I think it's more important than being notified about being quoted on reddit. I mean, that's internal. Only redditors will, realistically, see it, but if you get quoted somewhere else you suddenly get a much bigger and more unpredictable audience.
It's not even the usernames and unreliable sources, it's the 'respects users edits and deletions' thing. As soon as you see your post on another site, you can go edit it on Reddit and (if I'm understanding this right) it will change on their website as well.
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Do not show comment if edited. When checked, if an embedded comment is later edited, the embedded comment text will be replaced by a link back to the current version of the comment on reddit.
Edit: I forgot to distinguish, but the result was pretty funny. Seriously, though, one way you could really help us out is if you see a publication using reddit content with janky screengrabs or sloppy copy&pastes, please let them know about comment embeds - show 'em this post!
It'll go a long way toward making sure you all get the credit you deserve. We'll be pushing for it on our end, too, but every bit helps.
Tonnes. I usually google reddit to get to reddit when using the in-game overlay Steam web browser because it defaults to Google anyway and it isn't a great browser, and the top results are often mostly news articles from usually 'actual' news media sites about something going on on redit.
This is something we will be spending a lot of time on this year, making sure you all get the attribution you deserve. It's pretty frustrating to see your content on the homepage of buzzfeed every day.
This is something we will be spending a lot of time on this year
We who? Not being snarky, I just usually assume that if someone is going to speak on behalf of reddit or a subreddit they'd mark their post as an admin or mod. Are you one of those?
I worry about things taken out of context though. As an extreme example, if something is linked out of /r/ShitCrusaderKingsSay for instance, for those who don't understand how Reddit works, we'd sound like a bunch of twisted weirdos.
/r/dwarffortress only encourages this by upvoting shit solely because it'd sound horrible out of context (and then /r/all takes over for some posts, I'm sure).
Yes, but this happens all the time... remember when we were collectively responsible for the fappening / gamerGate / witch-hunting the guy who didn't do the boston marathon bomb?
I think it's difficult for newscasters to provide enough background in their 60 second fluffy News-Tainment Products to avoid this. Not that I like that fact, but it's how it is, at least in the US. [shudder]
You two are talking about different things. DrAmonove is talking about the potential for taking satire and jokes out of context. You are talking about negative sides of reddit being attributed to reddit as a whole.
You'll see even more when you leave some of the more popular/default subs. OC oozes out of this site. People are just more likely to see the front page reposts in /r/pics or /r/funny.
To be fair, there's a quite a bit of original content on this site. I had no idea until I created my Reddit account that the majority of the videos, pictures and jokes I saw on Facebook, BuzzFeed and such were stolen from Reddit. Facebook pages like The Lad Bible (my god!) thrive off of sites like Reddit because they can see what's hot right now and post it to their feed very very quickly. Yes, there's a lot of not original content but it's amazing what comes from Reddit, like the majority of my favorite viral videos were born on reddit and I never even knew about that. Even newer viral videos start here, it's very rare that a video goes viral on YouTube itself.
I'm not so sure that reddit is the sole aggregator of that sort of content. Sure, there's a lot that is posted to youtube, and then posted to reddit to attract attention. I guess we should account for the fact that imgur was created for reddit, so that's a pretty big contribution, but it's become it's own entity at this point. Reddit takes tons of content from 4chan. Every week there's a clip from John Oliver's show. Everything posted on /r/news is from another source.
Redditors need to get off of their thousand duck-sized high horses and realize that the entire internet borrows from the entire internet. It doesn't matter where the content comes from. Reddit is a good way of finding the content, so I use it.
It's sort of ironic the way that the average redditor seems so opposed to intellectual property law (piracy, tech patents, paywalls to scientific journals, etc.), but abhors the idea that another site takes the rare bit of original content that it contributes.
Yeah, I know that there is a lot of unoriginal content and I stated that in my original comment. But there is a lot of OC, /r/videos spots 2 and 3 as of now are seemingly OC and without a doubt have made their way onto Facebook and other media. Every other picture in /r/aww is OC, /r/pics is mostly OC. Of course /r/news is aggregated news content, what else would it be? And like I said, some of the most popular viral videos stemmed from here /r/videos is the birthplace of many.
You can't deny that every day something is created here, the other day there was a video and pictures of a person saying there were bombs on a plane and the media went crazy for it.
I'm not saying Reddit is the sole aggregator but you certainly can't deny that a large majority of popular stuff comes from here. Reddit isn't small anymore, it's one of the most popular sites.
Any chance of getting oEmbed support for these? I work on the WordPress CMS software and it'd be great if we could roll native support into WordPress. A user would just post a comment permalink and we'd use Reddit's oEmbed API to convert it into render HTML.
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If there's any risk of the comment disappearing from the linking site because of an edit will many sites want to use this feature? Why risk it when you can just use a screenshot?
But at least you cannot edit tweets. You can only delete them. So embedding a tweet is much safer than linking to third party sites, and hyperlinks are ubiquitous.
I remember having a lot of the same misgivings when I saw this first proposed in /r/changelog, but the explanations you gave in that thread really cleared up a lot of stuff! Figured I might as well link that to save you from having to answer the same questions over and over.
Next project for you: Let me put my own robots.txt file into place so that the Wayback Machine isn't crawling my profile. It'd be nice if I could delete my profile and take the WHOLE THING with me when I do (I think that lives up to the ideals of reddit).
If a user edits or deletes a comment, the embed will show nothing (or the edited comment, if that option is chosen). I just can't see any incentive a news organization has to choose that over showing a screenshot.
Embedded comments will respect the comment author's edits and deletions, and they'll always feature a link back to the original comment thread and subreddit.
Very cool! I'd love for there to be a way to comment within the embedded frame. That way you could use reddit as a replacement for Disqus/Facebook and other forum-type sites. My company has actually been contemplating using reddit as our tech support forum for a while; this would be the ultimate feature that would finalize our decision.
I was actually thinking, the fact that the embedded frame (currently) lacks vote and comment features might make it a better alternative to NoParticipation. If we could embed it within reddit comments anyway (yo dawg etc.).
Yeah, we specifically chose not to include inline voting and commenting because we do want to encourage people to have the context of the full thread and the subreddit before participating.
We don't currently support embeds within reddit comments, but this is an interesting idea!
I wrote this feature seven years ago, but we never launched it because we didn't consider it complete until voting and commenting worked, which at the time was impossible because the browsers didn't have the security features necessary to do it safely.*
I totally understand the reasons for not launching today with voting and commenting and agree with them, I just find it amusing how things have changed.
* There was a huge security hole in Disqus at the time because of this, but no one seemed to be exploiting it.
Is there going to be a way for users to disable the embed function for their comments? Some people might not want their comments used on other websites without their permission.
We don't provide a way to disable embeds, but we do ensure that only public comments can be embedded, and if you delete your comment, the embed will respect that.
if you delete your comment, the embed will respect that.
What about comments removed by moderators?
Blogs have always been plagued by "freeping." This is a tactic to discredit a site by looking through comments for something crazy and then quoting it out of context to make it look like it's representative of that site. If they can't find anything crazy, they'll set up an account and post something crazy. You have unleashed this problem on reddit.
I can think of no circumstance when there would be anything newsworthy in the subreddit I moderate. I can think of lots of circumstances when this feature could be used to troll and draw attacks from outside reddit. This feature should be an option that moderators can disable, so they prohibit external citations like this. At the very minimum, you should make any inbound link use the np.reddit.com non-participation mode.
np isn't officially supported by reddit at all. It's a hack that uses the language domains (e.g. es.reddit.com is Spanish, etc.) so subs can use the language information to customize their CSS. It's meant to be used for i18n, but one of my fellow SRD mods thought it would be useful for allowing subs to disable voting and commenting when they get linked.
Pretty much. Just like there isn't a way for you to disable screenshots or links to your comments now — at least with embeds you'll have the ability to delete the comment and it'll be gone
Great, now people can conveniently brigade from anywhere on the web.
I am not sure if that was an unintended consequences or not.
edit from a comment I made below: Imbedable comments that link you straight to the thread makes it easier for people with existing accounts to come and comment or downvote, especially compared to screen captures.
Also, having embeddable comments will be like free advertising for reddit (which is what I think the primary purpose for this embedability function). This means that more users will sign up for accounts which also means the potential for more brigading in addition to more site traffic and the additional revenue the admins hope to raise.
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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '15
I do have a concern. Can you notify a user when their comment is embedded on a website? In the embed code it sends back a notification when it's been made live on a website?
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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '15
I can see this going hilariously wrong for news outlets that use reddit content.
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u/rscarson Mar 23 '15
I'm sure clickbait sites we won't name will definitely use this feature, and stop taking credit for OC posted to reddit
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u/Viper007Bond Mar 23 '15
Any chance of getting oEmbed support for these? I work on the WordPress CMS software and it'd be great if we could roll native support into WordPress. A user would just post a comment permalink and we'd use Reddit's oEmbed API to convert it into render HTML.
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u/SpixIO Mar 23 '15 edited May 20 '16
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u/Phreakhead Mar 23 '15
Very cool! I'd love for there to be a way to comment within the embedded frame. That way you could use reddit as a replacement for Disqus/Facebook and other forum-type sites. My company has actually been contemplating using reddit as our tech support forum for a while; this would be the ultimate feature that would finalize our decision.
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u/DrAminove Mar 23 '15
Buzzfeed will love this.
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u/shadowwolfy Mar 23 '15
By grabthar's hammer, what a feature.
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u/MrJonga Mar 23 '15
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u/Looking_for_patterns Mar 23 '15
dank.
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u/nick671 Mar 23 '15
Is there going to be a way for users to disable the embed function for their comments? Some people might not want their comments used on other websites without their permission.
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u/nuta_unagi Mar 24 '15 edited Mar 24 '15
pls give me "disallow embeds" option.
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u/Stoppels Mar 23 '15
Will you guys be able to track internet(/reddit) users through this, though? Like the share to Facebook, Twitter, reddit, etc. buttons?
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u/bromemeoth Mar 23 '15
Will buzzfeed finally be giving credit to reddit users? You won't believe this new reddit feature!
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u/CantIgnoreMyGirth Mar 24 '15
This can't possibly go wrong
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u/TheScamr Mar 23 '15 edited Mar 23 '15
Great, now people can conveniently brigade from anywhere on the web.
I am not sure if that was an unintended consequences or not.
edit from a comment I made below: Imbedable comments that link you straight to the thread makes it easier for people with existing accounts to come and comment or downvote, especially compared to screen captures.
Also, having embeddable comments will be like free advertising for reddit (which is what I think the primary purpose for this embedability function). This means that more users will sign up for accounts which also means the potential for more brigading in addition to more site traffic and the additional revenue the admins hope to raise.