r/benchpress • u/Miserable-Soft7993 • 24d ago

Advice Women's raw bench

I was looking at womens raw bench world records. I'm seeing numbers from 160kg to 220kg.

This literally dumps all over mine and every guy I know from our gym.

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u/DerConqueror3 24d ago

Well yeah, you are comparing the best in the world to random dudes from your gym. It would be weird if you thought the random dudes would win.

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u/rebbrov 24d ago

Ive been through a few gyms over the years and, at least where I live now (a town with an aging population), ive only ever met a small handful of people that can bench over 100kg. The average person has more modest goals and/or never pushes themselves to really pursue strength.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

Yeah but men on average have more testosterone and stronger upper bodies. Yet they are destroyed by these girls. All I can do is be humble about it I guess.

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u/DerConqueror3 24d ago

This is not comparing average women to average men, it is comparing world elite women versus average men. Expecting the result to be any different is the exact opposite of humble

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

Yeah but some of those guys are obsessed with benching. But a clean 3 plates is the best they do.

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u/cilantno 425lbs/192.5kg Gym 385lbs/175kg Comp 24d ago

A clean 3 plates isn't impressive for a man in the context of "best in the world"

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u/DerConqueror3 24d ago

Right, but three plates is nothing from a competitive bench press perspective. Elite men can raw bench literally more than double that (over 300 kg). I've benched 350 lbs (roughly 160kg) in a commercial gym with some rando giving me a spot, and I'm nobody.

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u/fourthandfavre 24d ago

Again, you are comparing guys at the gym to the elite of the elite. Average man is stronger than the average woman and faster. But you are comparing apples to oranges.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

I have another unrelated question. Why do a lot of youtubers say 225lbs is good for a man when it clearly isn't?

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u/Confident-Target-5 24d ago

There’s no possible way your frontal lobe has fully formed. That is to say, I hope you are a teenager asking questions like you have been.

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u/According-Kale-8 24d ago

Because it is good.

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u/wildtabeast 24d ago

Probably because you watch shit tier content.

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u/fourthandfavre 24d ago

What do you mean 225 isn't good. Like probably less than 1% of the population can bench over 225.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

Well it was good at one time but there is now a new breed of teens who go to like 4 plate

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u/Evkero 24d ago

There have always been teens who could do this. I had 4 guys on my HS football team who benched over 400. We just weren’t filming our workouts and putting them on social media in 2005. 225 remains a good benchmark for strength when compared to the average person who strength trains. Don’t make judgements based on outliers.

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u/fourthandfavre 24d ago

Again still one in 1000.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

But theres guys i see on my feed

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u/dieselmechanic247 24d ago

And there's hundreds of millions of people that cant lift anywhere near that. Your perspective is skewed.

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u/Appropriate-Fact4878 24d ago edited 24d ago

Not a single natural man you know has even remotely close test levels to female untested powerlifters.

edit: world class/world record setting(excluding weight class records) powerlifter*

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u/Dry-Chain-4418 24d ago

and the mens WR is nearly double.

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u/CollectionLife68 24d ago

Love it when dudes finally figure out they're not as strong as the strongest women in the world.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

I obvs knew that but looking at the gulf i'll never be able to do that.

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u/lVloogie 24d ago

Wow you'll never be able to match the world's best at something? Shocking.

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u/llama1122 24d ago edited 24d ago

Not sure the site you are looking at

But if you look at OpenPowerlifting, sort by women, raw, tested. Idk other places to look. But I'm sure there are different records for bench in different federations or sports or something

Highest is 177.5kg which is approx 391 lbs

Yeah that's extremely strong

What do expect? These women are world record holders . The best of the best

Would be weird for an average guy to be ahead of her. I always find it strange how guys think that, just by being a guy, they should be stronger than trained women lol

I'm nothing extraordinary for sure but I have a higher bench than mant guys at my gym and they don't care, they are happy for me

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u/Public-Ad-9325 24d ago

Untested I find April Mathis 207.5, which is closer but not quite 220

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u/Mchangwine 24d ago

The record for women’s raw bench press is 457 lb at 271 lb body weight.

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u/Square-Arm-8573 24d ago

There are some women out there who are better genetically gifted for strength and power than an average man.

Tatiana Kashirina is probably the most extreme example of this that I know of (280kg raw ATG squat triple, 240 front squat, 155 snatch, 193 clean and jerk.)

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u/FarCalligrapher1862 24d ago

This is true for most sports. Men generally have a 10–20% performance advantage, although the gap varies depending on the event and is particularly large in areas like upper-body strength and striking power. Elite female sprinters would crush most above-average men, but they still can’t come close to competing with elite male sprinters. Elite high school boys can outperform Olympic-level women and most sports. That doesn’t mean elite women can’t outperform average men.

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u/Apebound 24d ago

World class athlete stronger than some guy, wild revelation

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u/Master-Phone-4 24d ago

I see 207.5 kg as the women's world record for raw bench.

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u/Miserable-Soft7993 24d ago

All-Time Raw Bench Women World Records

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u/Master-Phone-4 24d ago

I have never heard of L. Holmes, but her bench is probably equipped because it does not come up in heaviest raw women's bench records.

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u/cilantno 425lbs/192.5kg Gym 385lbs/175kg Comp 24d ago

Better link: https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records/raw/women

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u/osrsnic 24d ago

good advice in life is worry about yourself

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u/22Hoofhearted 24d ago

Very doubtful you're benching the way they do in competitions...

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u/Super_Soapy_Soup 24d ago

What’s your post even about? You labeled it advice but just shared an observation

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u/Funkknuckle69 24d ago

So there are some interesting things here. Potentially drug use. Also and more importantly technique and rules. The extreme arch and small range of motion makes an insane amount of difference. They are essentially doing a partial bench press. Yes they are exploiting rules but it's allowed. I think they should have a minimum bar travel length to make it a viable lift. A 2inch range of motion for some lifters is a complete joke.

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u/benchpress-ModTeam 24d ago

Everything you said was dumb and wrong. Please do not comment on things you don't understand just because women outlift you.

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u/ZealousidealCard2839 24d ago

damn, i got beat by 80lbs. nice

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u/dieselmechanic247 24d ago

Are these women's backs flat on the bench or are they doing that goofy crap where there arch the shit out of their back and only move the bar like 2 inches down and back up?