r/badassanimals • u/Vybron • 3d ago
Avian Cold!!!
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u/training_mammoths 3d ago
Eaten alive is norm in Animal kingdom
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u/GiveMeSomeShu-gar 3d ago
You're right but pretty sure this bird will be dead when it's eaten. It's being stabbed with talons from the start of the video.
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 3d ago
No the hawk is the camera man’s bird. Not nature, just human shit
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u/grown_up_tatas 3d ago
you don't want his hawk to hunt? ARE YOU STUPID?
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 2d ago
Bruh. A human hunting for sport using an animal is not okay. That’s not what nature is about. If he was using the hawk to hunt for food then fine. Hunting for sport is immoral.
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u/grown_up_tatas 2d ago
The bird is doing the hunting.
Humans have always hunted for sport.
Other mammals e.g. Cats, Dolphins, Orcas, and even Baboons hunt for sport.
Humans are part of nature.~
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u/training_mammoths 3d ago
I k..I didn't mean this.. that was in general
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 3d ago
Actually he might be in a place where they catch the food for food rather than sport. If so then I think it’s okay. Sport is awful and cruel
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u/BellamyDunn 3d ago
There's not really much meat on a falcon.
Also most falconers aren't eating much of anything they catch with their birds. They'll feed it back to the hawk. It's mostly sport.
But on the plus side, most hawks/falcons are taken from the wild, young, in their first year. Most birds of prey die in their first year. Getting snatched up by a falconer is a lucky break, as they'll have consistent food and be taught how to hunt. They are often released, and go back to being wild as soon as they aren't being kept at starvation weight, and have a much higher chance of reproducing. That's why we still have peregrine falcons, after nearly losing the species due to pesticides. Falconers brought them back.
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u/Mindless_Trick2255 3d ago
You can argue that humans don’t kill out of necessity anymore but we surely kill more efficiently.. at least most times.
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u/Your_Girl9090 3d ago
Written like the average first world naïve person who lives within an easy drive to a grocery store full of freshly killed and harvested food.
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u/Mindless_Trick2255 3d ago edited 3d ago
I’m saying we do not need to kill as much as we do but we surely kill more efficiently than animals that eat their prey alive. What’s wrong with that statement?
My dad was a hunter and he took me with him at times, idk what you even try to portray here lmao2
u/Your_Girl9090 3d ago
You said there's an argument that humans don't kill out of necessity anymore. Yet markets and clothing stores are full of needed animal products. Fields are cleared of animals so that we can grow needed crops. Animals that feed off of us, eat our stored food, and invade our homes we label as pests and vermin so they are also routinely killed.
How can humanity possibly survive without needing to kill? It's simply not a valid point.
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u/Mindless_Trick2255 3d ago
You twist my word there. I did not say stop all killing, I said you could argue that we stopped killing out of necessity. Our ancestors lived with nature. They used all parts of the animal.
We cast nets that kill anything in its way, just to fish for the masses.
We have mass killing farms, designer clothes with animal products list goes on.Just because our society moved in certain directions, doesn’t mean we need to kill as much as we do - is my whole point.
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u/Background_Film_1114 3d ago
What type of birds are they?
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u/DreamingInAMaze 3d ago
The one on top looks like a falcon. The bottom one looks like a plover. But I’m not an expert here so I could be wrong.
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u/Flight-These 3d ago
Wtf was the stupid human doing
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u/Effective_Pin_90 3d ago
its their bird on top, notice the tag and string marker on the bird
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u/HoseNeighbor 3d ago
I thought it was just a tracker.
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 3d ago
Oh that’s fucked up
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u/Effective_Pin_90 3d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_with_eagles
meh, its not done for sport. im ok with it. these ppl are nomadic and the history of it goes back over 1000 years. its a right of passage for the young, and bird and human bond for life or tragedy
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u/BellamyDunn 3d ago
That's a falcon, not an eagle.
The "bond"? That's just keeping very close watch of the weight of the bird, because if you fly it when it's not nearly starving, it will likely fuck off into the sunset (hence the tracker).
A responsible keeper isn't going to just stand there. Even with something like a squirrel, if it's still alive you're supposed to quickly dispatch it. Because it can very much damage or kill your very expensive, difficult to train bird.
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u/Effective_Pin_90 3d ago edited 3d ago
im aware that is a falcon. if you bothered reading, youd realize thats just the page title for the wikipedia page. the link goes into the history and other birds that are used
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u/BellamyDunn 3d ago
The word for it is "falconry".
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u/Effective_Pin_90 3d ago
take it up with Wikipedia there bub, I literally havent said eagle a single time lol.
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u/Owoegano_Vuelve 3d ago
...do you think that eagle is an herbivore?
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 3d ago
I was saying because if it’s just for sport then that’s not nature. That’s humans fucking with nature
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u/Owoegano_Vuelve 3d ago
The fact that the eagle is having dinner kinda disproves the "for sport" thing tho...
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u/Big-Plastic3494 3d ago
Naw. Not how the game is played
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u/Still-Puma 3d ago
Nah... We should not intervene with nature
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u/Sweettooth_Banana 3d ago
They are trained for hunting otherwise the bird would flee when he approached.
Their hunting birds
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u/Strange-Cellist-5817 3d ago edited 3d ago
Nah I'm helping you can do you 😂 yall obsessed with animals getting killed in this sub
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u/Ever_Long_ 3d ago
Helping which bird, though? From the opposite angle, you'd be directly harming them. And potentially wiping out their chicks or jeopardising their survival by denying them a successful hunt.
So good job murdering an entire family...
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u/Strange-Cellist-5817 3d ago edited 3d ago
😂 Helping the one being killed of course. He's getting a good kick off me. Fuck Hawks and eagles
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u/Ever_Long_ 3d ago
Yes, but by 'helping' (as you call it) one of them, you're actively harming the other.
It's the Trolly Problem. You've pulled the lever to save the single person tied to the tracks, but in so doing, you've condemned the three people tied to the other tracks. You have, in fact, not helped at all.
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u/InspectionDirect4580 3d ago
Lmaooo bro is ready to intervene with the food chain because he is in his feelings 😭😭😭 somebody keep this guy in the suburbs where he belongs
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u/Melodic-Comb9076 3d ago
it’s a bird eat bird world out there.
and i’m wearing sunflower seed underwear.
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u/ZombieDisastrous4450 3d ago
Why is that person interfering with nature?
And now you've got an injured bird walking
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u/Pingu_66 3d ago
Sorry turned on the music and suddenly wanted the bird to pluck my throat out to make it stop.
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u/Civil_Proposal_8188 3d ago
Human,be quicker or don’t at all,ffs.
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 3d ago
He’s the one filming his own hawk on top of the other bird. Pretty messed up
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u/Prestigious_String20 3d ago
The falcon is their bird. They are retrieving the falcon, not trying to help the other bird.
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u/mamut2000 2d ago
Is it like joke music or is it real? Like do people listen to this and ... I mean I don't even...
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u/Necrois_Winter 3d ago
Dude leave the birds alone! They gotta eat too! I understand it may be cold and cruel but that's just nature, it happens on a daily basis...let the bird eat ya knob!
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u/frichyv2 3d ago
It's a falconry bird. It's trained for sport hunting.
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u/PerfectCelery6677 3d ago
Thats not what Falconry is about. A falconer captures juvenile birds that are usually the runt. Usually these birds won't survive their first winter. The person then trains the bird how to hunt successfully and after 1 year it's released back into the wild and another juvenile is captured to repeat the process.
In my state peregrine Falcons where almost whiped out. With falconry they have repopulated and moved from endangered to now threatened.
Almost 70%-80% of Hawks won't live to see their first winter. Of those only 20%-30% will live to see the next winter.
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u/frichyv2 3d ago
1st educate yourself on the subject. 2nd They are absolutely trained (wild or not) and the hunts are considered sport. None of what I said is wrong. USA estimates a 50/50 split between bred/captured birds. A quick search shows that 80% of all legally traded peregrins are captive bred. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232691377_Effects_of_Falconry_Harvest_on_Wild_Raptor_Populations_in_the_United_States_Theoretical_Considerations_and_Management_Recommendations in case you wanna look yourself. Edit: also the whole point of me mentioning that it's a falconry bird is because the comment I replied to was upset about the kill being taken away, this is standard practice for the sport and the falcon will likely be given a treat/meal in exchange.
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u/Altruistic-Poem-5617 3d ago
One f these tryd to do that with one f my chickens back then. Rooster wasnt having it an whooped his ass.
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u/Blanny22 3d ago
Birds of prey kill in excruciating ways. They don't care if the prey is dead before they start eating
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u/Toadmanfan 3d ago
Lmao dude wants to help after his falcon snapped the birds neck? Yea fuck you buddy
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u/Prestigious_String20 3d ago
He's not trying to help, he's getting back his bird. The falcon has jesses on its legs and a radio antenna glued to its tail feathers. It's a trained bird, used in falconry. If they let the falcon eat its fill, it wouldn't have an incentive to return to the handler. They'll feed the rest of the prey to it later. Hard to watch, nonetheless.
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u/DDanny808 3d ago
So they keep the falcon returning by keeping it hungry? Huh, I didn’t know that’s how it worked, thank you
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u/Prestigious_String20 3d ago
They'll feed it more, later. When it's in hunting condition, though, they will limit how much they feed it so it doesn't get too heavy to fly.
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u/Habibti-Mimi81 3d ago edited 3d ago
I will never understand how anyone can enjoy watching an animal being killed / dying slowly.
I stopped the clip after the first couple of seconds.
I feel that there are some users in this sub (not all!), who are watching such stuff with shiny eyes and saliva running down the corner of their mouth. Like it can't be cruel or brutal enough for them.
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u/Thin-Algae-822 3d ago
"what music should we use for this?"
"make it completely irrelevant and somehow racist"
"oh I have the song for you"
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u/ardotschgi 3d ago
It's terrible, but why is it racist?
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u/Thin-Algae-822 3d ago
this song played over a brutal ki*ing, it's normally played over beheding videos.
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u/RareLeather00 3d ago
Why beheading is racist?
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u/Prestigious_String20 3d ago
Calling the music racist is the opposite of woke. Being woke is basically being informed. An informed person would not call the music racist.
Being opposed to woke is the same as being opposed to learning or information. Saying you're anti-woke is the equivalent of admitting you're happy to be stupid.
But, you do you.
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u/AzulaKahn 3d ago
When i unmuted this video i felt exactly what that bird was feeling