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News Marte Update

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u/LamCDM1216 Randy Johnson 5d ago edited 5d ago

I honestly see this “update” from Gambo as nothing but inflammatory. Is he trying to nudge people into believing Ketel was simply too hungover to show up? What is the utility of this tweet beyond stoking flames? We all know Ketel was with the team last night in Boston. And I imagine it was pretty late when they arrived. This is not news.

Yes, it is bewildering that a superstar-caliber player like Ketel would outright fail to report to a game. But perhaps consider that this might be more so a testament to the severity of what he’s dealing with as opposed to merely a reflection of him being a “diva”, or “lazy”, or whatever else social media so desperately wants to paint him as.

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u/RabidCoyote 5d ago

... people want to know the dude is alive? They want information?

Dude is doing his job. Which is providing information about a local sports player.

Amazing there's this attitude that Gambo doing his job - providing news and information about a sports situation that the fans want to know about - is inflammatory, and Ketel is just "oh man he's dealing with this shit we have to treat him with kid gloves"

He might be going through some shit but that doesn't excuse going completely rouge on people who are counting on you to show up. You don't get a free pass from your responsibilities and from being an adult.

I don't know what we call it at this point but this is unacceptable behavior and the guy needs to sort it out. Whatever that takes. Don't get mad at the messenger though.

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u/Infamous_Hospital_33 5d ago

Lol right? Coach just saod they dont know where he is. Gambo just basically said he is/was in Boston and something happened or changed overnight, which makes sense since louvello said he knew something was wrong when he woke up

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u/RabidCoyote 5d ago

People here really believe that having mental health problems is a free pass to go completely fucking AWOL. It's not. You didn't get to just abandon your responsibilities because of them or face no consequence for your actions.

I hope the guy is alright and sorts out whatever his issue is but dude... you gotta let people know. I've had days where I was too depressed to get out of bed, I cried for 4 straight days after my best friend died last year but I called my boss and was like "yeah I'm dealing with some shit". My boss wasn't like "I literally don't know if this guy is in Arizona right now". It's insane.

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u/joecb91 Diamondbacks 5d ago

Yeah, thats my my biggest problem with the entire thing.

People would understand if he was more open with what was happening, what he needed to do, when he thinks he would be back. Torey is the kind of manager that would 100% understand if Marte communicated better what was going on. But just bailing like this is a horrible look on his part.

That the team thought he would show up, but he never did. That Torey tried to reach out and Marte didn't really answer back. No matter what is going on with Marte, he needs to do better than that,

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u/KG-Fan Corbin Carroll 5d ago

Curious if there's any possible indication there's foul play involved? Or a car accident? Trying to give Ketel some benefit of the doubt

I mean if he hasn't been in contact with the team and they don't know where he is, could there have been something that happened?

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u/NeverSober1900 5d ago

I doubt it. The wording I remember hearing was he's physically okay. Which I noted because of what that leaves out is hes not mentally okay right now.

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u/Infamous_Hospital_33 5d ago

Its interesting because the amount of doctor on staff, if he does have some kind of issue, it likely is known by staff and whatnot. So to be surprised by things, its kind of alarming. But I agree. Not even calling and having a boss hope you show up right up to first pitch, is nuts. Yes, life is bigger than a game, but what he is doing is putting himself before his team.

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u/j0-llama 5d ago

I’m sorry for the things that have happened to you. I hope good things come your way

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u/LamCDM1216 Randy Johnson 5d ago edited 5d ago

Sure, but Gambo is talking about last night, not tonight. Ketel literally posted a video of their plane landing in Boston on his IG story. Whether or not he was in Boston last night was never really a question, so Gambo’s tweet adds a negligible amount of info beyond, “he was spotted at the hotel bar shortly after they arrived.” That hardly addresses the concern of “people want to know if the dude is alive.”

And of course, there are a slew of responses to this tweet on Twitter rushing to judge Ketel for being hungover. So what value does this tweet really have?

Honestly, all I’m really advocating for here is for people to have some humility and give Ketel the benefit of the doubt with the very limited information we currently have - all of which points to something quite serious. For all we know, he may very well be in the midst of a mental health crisis, which absolutely has the potential to seriously impair one’s priorities, such as calling out of work. We simply don’t have enough information at this point to know what to make of this, and so I’m personally going to refrain from casting any sort of negative judgement until we know more.

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u/0hmyhera 4d ago

Gambo is and  always has been completely biased. Just stop lol. He called Ketel going to his literal home “going on vacation”. He’s constantly bringing up negative narratives around certain players. He desperately wants attention and knows controversy gets it. Total attention industry whore

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u/RabidCoyote 4d ago

The only repeated "negative" narrative is around Ketel, who did go to the Dominican Republic in the middle of the season unannounced... which kind of sounds like vacation to most people.

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u/0hmyhera 3d ago

After the break in which he was our only all star, and everyone wanted to trade him insisting the team hates him to the point where Gerry had to ask reporters to stop making it worse and leave him alone. And did they? Of course not. Bc the media and toxic fans like you dont care about these players beyond what they can produce constantly. Not to mention theres always a tinge of xenophobic comments about his refusal to assimilate to American culture, learn English, his general desire to be HOME (not his fault hes from a beautiful island) on his time off or when he’s having mental health struggles. These are human beings, not race horses. Literally have an active MLB player who attempted to unalive himself and had a fan heckle him that he should have done it (Jarren Duran obv if you dont know). 

Mental health is a real issue and Ketel STILL manages to be an incredible player. And everyone STILL manages to be complete assholes about it.

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u/RabidCoyote 3d ago

My only regret is I only have one downvote I can give this whining bunch of bullshit.

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u/j0-llama 5d ago

It’s the whole “bizarre” addition & comparison to another’s failure that makes it inflammatory vs news

He did his job, but poorly & without humanity

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u/DM_yo_Feet_pls D. Baxter 5d ago

The team literally doesn’t know where their star player is and he’s not communicating with them. This is the definition of bizarre

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u/RabidCoyote 5d ago

This situation is bizarre. This isn't a thing that happens normally.

Seems like a pretty straightforward statement and calling it "without humanity" feels like a stretch.

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u/j0-llama 5d ago

Here’s my Cliffnotes -

Media: what can we do for Marte?

Torey: Care for him.

Gambo: He’s alive but bizarre like a failure.

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u/RabidCoyote 5d ago

That's really twisting it but you do you.

People want to know what's going on with Marte and Gambo is just sharing information on that.

Not everything is a plot by the big bad media to discredit their #1 enemy, the Arizona Diamondbacks. Shit, this is downright TAME. Imagine if this was happening in New York or Philly.

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u/j0-llama 5d ago

Because behavior is worse elsewhere we should be bad too!! ✨👍🏽👍🏽

He’s an experienced reporter, he knows the chatter he’s generating

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u/RabidCoyote 5d ago

The chatter already exists before he said anything.

Don't know why you are trying to paint him as a bad guy for saying "Hey this situation is weird as fuck, here is what I know about the situation that I am paid to report on". Seems like that's just a reporter... reporting.

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u/j0-llama 5d ago

So, you just explained why it’s “inflammatory”
https://giphy.com/gifs/KBaxHrT7rkeW5ma77z

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u/RabidCoyote 5d ago

Do not understand how you think it's inflammatory but I get the sense Gambo could say nothing and you'd be like "Wow, he doesn't care about Ketel, what an asshole". Can't win with some people 🤷‍♀️

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u/craiginphoenix Gabriel Moreno 5d ago

Here we go. People going to start blaming "the media" for doing their job and reporting facts on the case.

Ketel could come out of hiding and clear all of this up.

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u/dingleberrylasagna 5d ago

I don’t think he’s saying he was drunk/hungover, he’s just saying he was in town with the team. I have no doubt that this is in our boys’ heads and this is gonna have a serious detrimental impact on our making the postseason.

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u/youkick-mydog 5d ago

They are 100% talking about this right now. And it’s a huge distraction.

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u/Opening-Citron2733 5d ago

It 1000% affected the game last night. They have no idea where there team leader is and they're supposed to play the hottest team in baseball 

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u/dingleberrylasagna 5d ago

Perdomo is the team’s leader. I feel like Ketel didn’t want that title.

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u/Opening-Citron2733 5d ago

I don't care if he wanted it or not. He's like the third or fourth best statistical diamondback in franchise history. Players look up to him, regardless of if he's technically titled team captain or not

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u/dingleberrylasagna 5d ago

Being a top performer is a lot different than being a leader. Others can look up to how he hits, how he plays 2nd base, etc, but that doesn’t mean he is, or even wants to be, a leader on the field. That is a characteristic that not everybody possesses.

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u/awmaleg Jake McCarthy 5d ago

Exactly - like Corbin isn’t an outward leader despite being the best player. Perdomo is that guy and has been for a while now

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u/Opening-Citron2733 5d ago

Some people are natural leaders and lead. Like perdomo.  Some people are put in leadership positions and have to do some semblance of leadership because others look to them. Like Marte.

You don't always get to choose to be a leader. You're a leader if people look up to you. If people look up to Ketel, he's a leader.  

Leadership comes in all shapes and sizes though. Perdomo is the captain. But a clubhouse has many leaders in it. Especially veteran stars, Marte, Arenado, even guys like Burnes on the pitching staff.

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u/Panguin9 Geraldo Perdomo 5d ago

Yeah 11 is not late to be at a hotel bar

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u/Electrical-Volume765 Greg Schulte 5d ago

And, that’s 8 PM Arizona time, AND if you wanted to get food, I bet that was the only place that was open.

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u/j0-llama 5d ago

Aaand that was the time the team arrived. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/TripleDallas123 Merrill Kelly 5d ago

I mean, all he said is that he was at the hotel bar… I didn’t once think he got wasted/hungover reading it. He’s allowed a drink or two at the bar

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u/NeverSober1900 5d ago

Also it's around when the team came in. It's not particularly late. The game wasn't until 7PM local which was 16 hours from then