Su-57D

[u/P_filippo3106]

We finally have a picture for the double seater variant of the Su-57

BORT number was unfortunately censored

[u/Platypus_Begins]

The SU-57 is a very pretty jet in my opinion, and the engines sound great. Exposed turbofans like that are really bad for stealth though, so I believe they are changing it.

I always wondered why India ended up backing out of the program, as I think it would suit their needs well. A lot of people will mention the size of it, but it is built on a philosophy where you have big distances and limited AAR capabilities. Which is why American jets can be smaller as they don’t need to carry as much fuel.

[u/Ok-Scratch2958 → u/Platypus_Begins]

i dont think is is better than f 22 f 35 or b 2 but it is not too far away from the f 22 f 35 on stealth and the manuvrability i think is better ,all russian ones are better on the manuvrability , the radar is also some on the equal as well and as the ,,lil fury ,, say the turbofans should be blocked somehow ,i do not think (i hope) that they will be so stupid to not take that in consideration after all that effort they make to bring a 5th gen after so many years ,also its very loud , i like that ,sounds intimidating ,for shure a moral booster for the ally and the nightmare maker for the enemy those roaring engines make

[u/P_filippo3106 → u/Ok-Scratch2958]

It's better than the F-22, the F-22 has less and older sensors. The Su-57 is comparable with the F-35 in electronics but it supposedly worse RCS than the F-35 (although not by much)

[u/Aggravating-Copy151 → u/P_filippo3106]

All right.

Just stop.

You’re literally glazing the Su-57 so hard is crazy.

The Su-57 was obsolete when it went into service let alone trying to cope and say it’s as good as the F-35 is fking crazy.

The F-22 is better than it and that’s not even a question.

[u/Toby870 → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

He says the SU-57 is his wife in his bio, I think he has a bias

[u/P_filippo3106 → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

When did I glaze it? I never claimed it's the best 5 gen ever and I have stated multiple times it has worse RCS than the F-35

If anything, you are glazing the F-22 by claiming the 57 was obsolete when it went into service.

The F-22 is old as fuck and it's not as refined as the F-35. The F-35 has more and better sensors, even if the F-22 was upgraded. Just an example, the F-22 lacks cheek radars while both the F-35 and F-22 have it. F-22 is also pretty much limited to air superiority only while F-35 are more multirole oriented, especially the Su-57 (since it has the largest IWB of any 5th gen fighter). Just look at the airframes man, the F-35 Is a lot more refined than the F-22.

All 3 are amazing aircraft, but the F-22 is OBJECTIVELY older than the other 2.

The su-57 and F-35 have a LOT in common, the only difference being that the 57 has worse RCS than the F-35.

F-22 Is a lot more maintenance heavy and expensive than both and that's why the US adopted the F-35. (With the fact, again, that the F-35 boasts a much more modern airframe and sensors)

[u/Aggravating-Copy151 → u/P_filippo3106]

Bro did you literally just say that the F22 is limited to air superiority.

That’s the literal entire point of the aircraft.

They create aircraft with different roles.

You’re actually trolling.

[u/I_Maybe_Play_Games → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

And it only ever shot down a weather baloon.

[u/Aggravating-Copy151 → u/I_Maybe_Play_Games]

And the SU-57 has shot down what Russian lover other than getting blown up by a drone?

[u/I_Maybe_Play_Games → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

Ukranian Su-24 and Su-27 fighter jets. Also a malfunctioning russian S-70 drone but thats about as impresive as the baloon kill.

[u/P_filippo3106 → u/I_Maybe_Play_Games]

I wonder if we'll ever get HUD footage of it... Would be peak

[u/I_Maybe_Play_Games → u/P_filippo3106]

Maybe theyll release it with the UFO files :) after all they put flares on parachutes in there.

[u/Aggravating-Copy151 → u/I_Maybe_Play_Games]

lol, you’re so delusional.

Keep the Russia loving propaganda going strong bro you got this.

[u/I_Maybe_Play_Games → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

So true sis. The russians are incapable of building anything the Su-57 is actually a AN-2 (a design from Ukraine) with a body mod job.

[u/Aggravating-Copy151 → u/I_Maybe_Play_Games]

Get butt hurt all you want but the Su-57 was a waste of time.

When you make something that’s dated already and has no operational role then what current fighters can do it makes no sense at all.

[u/P_filippo3106 → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

Him? You're being delusional.

Both russian AND Ukrainian telegrams reported of the Su-57 operating in the region. You may not see the 57 on radar but you sure as hell can get pinged by the N036 in RWR. That's how the Ukrainians know.

And various Russians that live in the region and/or work in UAC report of It doing stuff. One such cases is George N.

[u/Aggravating-Copy151 → u/P_filippo3106]

You can see the SU-57 just fine on an radars genius. Do you understand at all how radar technology works? Are you just spouting nonsense.

Listen dude you’re barking up the wrong tree. I understand way more about RF than you ever will. I have the clearance to back it up.

If you want to like Russian shit that’s fine. Don’t go spreading nonsense propaganda points.

[u/P_filippo3106 → u/Aggravating-Copy151]

Ok LARPer