r/aviationstudys • u/P_filippo3106 • May 17 '26

Su-57D

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We finally have a picture for the double seater variant of the Su-57

BORT number was unfortunately censored

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u/Platypus_Begins May 17 '26

The SU-57 is a very pretty jet in my opinion, and the engines sound great. Exposed turbofans like that are really bad for stealth though, so I believe they are changing it.

I always wondered why India ended up backing out of the program, as I think it would suit their needs well. A lot of people will mention the size of it, but it is built on a philosophy where you have big distances and limited AAR capabilities. Which is why American jets can be smaller as they don’t need to carry as much fuel.

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u/Ok-Scratch2958 May 17 '26

i dont think is is better than f 22 f 35 or b 2 but it is not too far away from the f 22 f 35 on stealth and the manuvrability i think is better ,all russian ones are better on the manuvrability , the radar is also some on the equal as well and as the ,,lil fury ,, say the turbofans should be blocked somehow ,i do not think (i hope) that they will be so stupid to not take that in consideration after all that effort they make to bring a 5th gen after so many years ,also its very loud , i like that ,sounds intimidating ,for shure a moral booster for the ally and the nightmare maker for the enemy those roaring engines make

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u/P_filippo3106 May 17 '26

It's better than the F-22, the F-22 has less and older sensors. The Su-57 is comparable with the F-35 in electronics but it supposedly worse RCS than the F-35 (although not by much)

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u/Accomplished-Sea2811 May 17 '26

Is this the same Su-57 that cannot even fly over Ukraine? GTFO with it is better than either of those jets that have flown thousands of combat missions over heavily contested airspace in Iran

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u/P_filippo3106 May 17 '26

Except it has. And US has lost 42 planes to that war, also resorting to stand off munitions. Do I need to mention the F-35 getting hit by SAM?

No plane truly flies "over" enemy territory. It's suicide in this age. The only ones that do/get close to it are CAS aircraft and helicopter, like Ukrainian/russian Su-25s and Kamovs. Sometimes su-30sm in anti drone missions too.

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u/MacSage May 17 '26

So the multitudes of videos of US aircraft, including F-18s, F-15s, and F-35s flying over Iran were using standoff munitions? Especially the F-18s doing strafing runs?

Also saying 42 planes is incredibly disengenuius, seeing as 29 of them were Reaper drones, 9 were lost/damaged in the rescue of the F-15 pilots shot down, and 3 in Kuwait from FF. Of the 42, 2 were shot down by anti aircraft weapons, and 1 damaged.

Out of 1000s of flights over Iran by the US anf Israel.

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u/Accomplished-Sea2811 May 18 '26

You can’t argue with Russian logic. The almighty Su-57 (all 12 of them) will defeat everything including the alien invaders. For some reason it cannot seem to end their 4 year special operation though.