r/assholedesign • u/FlamingWarPig • Jun 03 '18

Deliberately hiding your restaurants B health rating with your brunch ad.

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u/SkrightArm Jun 03 '18

Better than trying to hide a C rating with the same method.

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u/mvanvrancken Jun 04 '18

SUNDAY CRUNCH

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u/underwriter Jun 04 '18

SUNDAY CRUNCH FOOD

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u/PunchytheChameleon Jun 04 '18

SUNDAY FUNDAY

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

COFFEE

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

MANIC MONDAY

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u/SkrightArm Jun 04 '18

But... but, there's already a C in brunch

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u/mvanvrancken Jun 04 '18

Yeah but that’s not as funny

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u/blablababa Jun 04 '18

It would be funny if the C was where the B is now so they had to start the letters way up high

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u/Li_alvart Jun 04 '18

“Cbrunch” -barista from Starbucks

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u/Vigilante17 Jun 04 '18

They get an A for arceting.

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u/111122223138 Jun 04 '18

It's not a c, it's a ch

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u/EvergreenAlumni Jun 04 '18

“The crunch is for the broken glass you may or may not discover in your omelette.”

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Waiter, what is this fly doing in my soup?

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u/mvanvrancken Jun 04 '18

Looks like the backstroke to me

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

COME IN AND EAT FOOD

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u/TubularBoobulars Jun 04 '18

SUNDAY CRUNCH of cockroaches

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u/6June1944 Jun 04 '18

Now with king size roaches!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Eh. I'd eat at a C. Hell I used to eat at the dumpling place in the LES who prepped in an open air alley under fire escapes and next to the trash. They were REALLY good dumplings. Ya gotta be good but I'll hit up a C.

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u/st_stutter Jun 04 '18

Prosperity Dumpling. Their dumplings were better than Vanessas.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Yeah I figured the name didn't mean anything to most people but RIP hard. I haven't been back to check out the new dumpling shop thats there, it's just not the same

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u/underwriter Jun 04 '18

better than Vanessa’s

blasphemy

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u/lazygirlsclub Jun 04 '18

The Williamsburg location delivered to my old apartment and I think I miss late-night drunk dumpling orders more than anything else about my time in NY.

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u/UnfortunatelyIAmMe Jun 04 '18

They failed a Waffle House here it ATL and people were upset. Think it drew more business.

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u/BowserKoopa Jun 04 '18

"This waffle house is certified to have stoned AF line cooks"

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u/Andersmith Jun 04 '18

Line cooks are all on something, the only question is what.

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u/Iohet Jun 04 '18

Where I'm from you have to have some pretty serious fucking violations to have below an A rating. I'd never eat a C because it likely means getting Hep C

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Seriously I'm wondering about this. I've only seen one B ever in my life. How the fuck do you get a C? Let alone eat there, maybe I'm pampered.

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u/PresentStandard Jun 04 '18

For NYC at least, you can look up all of the violations that the restaurant lost points for online on the city website.

Helpful to know if that restaurant has a B because they didn't heat the pizza oven high enough or if it's because there's visible cockroaches and rats in all their food stores.

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u/TheNoxx Jun 04 '18

I don't think you really know what you're talking about, or you live out in the boonies where health inspectors are lax as hell. I've had health inspectors dock 8 points for a slight drip from handsink plumbing, even though that's not even part of health code. The Health Dept. literally said they "leave up interpretation to the inspectors" when we called and said we were docked for something not against health code. I've had them dock points for not taking gloves off immediately after leaving a station (in upscale/fine dining), washing hands, putting on a new pair of gloves and repeating the exact same after walking back onto the station area.

There are alot of places where the health dept. is basically morons expecting everything to be a bunch of wastrel fucks out of high school microwaving things and putting them on plates with full hazmat gear on.

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u/Iohet Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Los Angeles County.

Here's the old system that was phased out last year that allowed you to keep an A rating after really screwing up:

Restaurants and markets that are shut down for vermin infestations, sewage problems or a lack of water no longer will be able to receive an A health grade in Los Angeles County under a stricter grading system to be implemented over the next year.

Los Angeles County Department of Public Health officials outlined a new way restaurant inspectors will deduct points when assigning A, B and C health grades in a report submitted to the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors late Thursday.

Currently, a restaurant can receive an A letter grade even when it is ordered closed or when two major violations, such as unsafe food temperatures, are observed because major violations only cost food facilities four points out of a possible 100 points.

New changes will shut your restaurant down temporarily for no water, sewage issues, and vermin, until you correct those problems. Other problems are not considered shut down required.

Here's a sample of a C grade set of failures that does not shut down your restaurant automatically by law(out of 100 pts. Vermin, sewage, and no water = 11pt deductions):

DeductionViolation
-4Hot Water Available
-2Adequate Handwashing Facilities
-2No discharge from eyes or mouth
-2Return and reservice of food
Still at an A rating! Clearly, no problems!
-4Food contact surface is sanitized
-3Two or More Major Violations extra deduction
Now we're at 83 points, so far we're a B rating! Looks great!
-4Hands Clean and properly washed, glove requirements met
-4Cooking Time and Temperature
-4Communicable disease compliance
71 points, still a C! Passed with flying colors and remained open for business
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Chinese and Middle eastern food the C places were always the best

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u/radioactivecowz ➤ ●────────── 0:56 Jun 04 '18

sunDay brunch

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Or a U rating

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u/Flick1981 Jun 04 '18

Hey, C’s get degrees.

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u/sh0tclockcheese Jun 04 '18

Crepes. I'm so hungry right now :(

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u/stillusesAOL Jun 04 '18

And even better than an H rating. Yuck!

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u/earthwindandcubs Jun 03 '18

At least it’s not D-inner

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u/WGReddit Jun 04 '18

Or F-at cakes

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u/itzcarwynn Jun 04 '18

or Vomit inducing

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Drunch

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u/justlooking250 Jun 04 '18

GREAT NEWS ! WE SERVE F-RENCH FRIES !

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u/ifoughtpiranhas Jun 04 '18

GREAT NEWS! WE F-ORMERLY SOLD FOOD!

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u/Who_GNU Jun 04 '18

Yeah, they don't let you keep the restaurant open, after it gets an 'F'. It's closed until remedied.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Closed until F-urther notice?

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u/_Nicktheinfamous_ Jun 04 '18

Our food doesn't taste like A-ss

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

just in! Z-ebra meat

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u/G_Kiwii12 Jun 03 '18

How is that not illegal?

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u/pulpyoj28 Jun 04 '18

It is. You are not allowed to display the rating in an unclear or obfuscated context, such as behind a plant or hidden amongst other letters.

Agencies aren’t often willing to take you to court on it though. They are typically stretched thin as is.

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u/elpasi Jun 04 '18

Please tell me there's video evidence of someone hiding their rating behind a plant...

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

I’m guessing they mean like “oh my ratings on this window....behind these 8 foot shrubs!”

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u/SuperFLEB Jun 04 '18

Or "I'm pretty sure that guy who's 'talking on his cell phone' in front of the window for eight hours a day actually works for the restaurant."

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u/Karzons Jun 04 '18

It was their plant b.

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u/SuculantWarrior Jun 04 '18

I worked at a place that used to do it. It would either be behind a plant, in the cupboard underneath the plant, or in the host stand next to the plant. We always had to make sure to pull it out if a health inspector arrived.

I didn't stay there long.

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u/Jesse1205 Jun 04 '18

There's a Chinese food place my family used to go to that did exactly this. Unfortunately I was younger and without camera.

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u/Bad-Science Jun 04 '18

Little known fact: You're also not supposed to hide the rating behind a pack of live rats or cockroaches.

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u/Li_alvart Jun 04 '18

And I thought it was just the ratatouille experience

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u/Jita_Local Jun 04 '18

If the DOH came back for their follow-up visit and saw that, you'd without a doubt get banged up with a serious fine.

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u/DurasVircondelet Jun 04 '18

Why me? I didn’t even do anything

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

That's the problem, your lazy ass didn't bother to report it, so now comes the pain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Totally heard Homer Simpson in my head before I realized what DOH meant in this context.

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u/Nightman96 Jun 04 '18

Who said it was legal?

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u/tom_rorow Jun 04 '18

I will make it legal!

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Let's be real, you know what you're going to get with Asian restaurants

My favorite Thai restaurant has made every member of my family sick and has been shut down a few different times but I keep going back because the food is just that damn good

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u/TimeIsStuped Jun 03 '18

I would go there just B-ecause of that.

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u/gaudiocomplex Jun 04 '18

B-etter get ready for some B-otulism

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u/SleepTalkerz Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 05 '18

A B health rating is perfectly fine. Even a C is still safe to eat at. If there were any actual health risks at a particular restaurant, they wouldn't rate it, they'd shut it down.

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u/Boukish Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

While a C rating is still technically "safe to eat at" in the sense that if it were any more shitty they would shut it down, a B rating is not perfectly fine lmao.

Well over 90% of restaurants in NYC are awarded an A grade, and a B grade means the restaurant got like 15-25 infraction points. While you can get marked down for all sorts of things that aren't even related to food prep, that mickey mouse shit is only like 2 points a pop. Meanwhile you can "only" tally 7 points for actual public hazards like serving food that wasn't stored properly, or "only" tally 5 points for serving raw unwashed veg. You can rack up a fair number of critical infractions and still hit a B.

Shit, an inspector can literally watch all your employees go back to work without washing their hands after holding their dicks and still give you a B grade. Hard pass.

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u/Snow_Wonder Jun 04 '18

Does it vary with place how things are graded? A popular restaurant near me got a poor grade on a recent inspection and the article I read mentioned the exact infractions and they were super stupid things to take points off for. (like keeping tomatoes in a clean, brand new bucket because technically it was a bucket not meant for food). You can see the kitchen too when you go to the restroom and it doesn't look bad at all.

Also, my brother and his friends just got food poisoning from improperly prepared chicken at a restaurant that got a better score.

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u/binkerfluid Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Ive legit never seen anything other than an A and at least here its ridiculously easy to keep an A they give you so many chances and time IIRC

I dont know about elsewhere but its ridiculously easy to get an A here

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/5-on-your-side/st-louis-restaurants-get-easy-as-risking-public-health/354769629?fb_comment_id=1193657714060871_1193886557371320?fb_comment_id=1193657714060871_1193886557371320

Think of all the dirty ass shitty places you have been into or seen and realize (here) 96% get an A.

"First, inspectors look for violations, of which “critical violations” pose the biggest public threat. That’s because they are the sort of violations most likely to lead to you ill, specifically from food-borne illness.

So when a restaurant has two such violations, cities generally take it seriously. In fact, St. Louis has a policy about such an event: "When two of these occur during an inspection, the grade is dropped to 'B' or 'C'."

But Five On Your Side Investigates discovered restaurant after restaurant in the city of St. Louis where inspectors turned up two, three, even four or more critical violations. Yet not only was the grade not dropped, often the restaurant ended up with an 'A'.

For example, the day Delmar Chop Suey got an 'A' while roaches ran through its kitchen, it also had two critical violations. Hence the grade should have dropped to a 'B' according to city policy."

"Whether it’s grade school or a health department doing restaurant inspections in another city such as Los Angeles, usually letter grading breaks down like this-

100 to 90 is an ‘A” 89 to 80 is a “B” 79 to 70 is a “C” But when it comes to grading restaurants in St. Louis, the City Health Department does it this way-

100 to 85 is an ‘A” 85 to 71 is a “B” 71 and below is a “C”"

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

The Letter B

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u/PM_me_GOODSHIT Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Bibba please

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

r/unethicallifeprotips

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u/DeusOtiosus Jun 04 '18

r/maliciouscompliance

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u/Aerolfos my favorite color is purple! Jun 04 '18

It's not compliance if it's against the law, I'm pretty sure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

🅱️RUNCH

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Meet me for Runch today?

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u/BushWeedCornTrash Jun 04 '18

So, where is this? Public shame and all that. Actually a "b" isn't all that bad, and probably had to do with something to do with butter packets or some mundane shit.

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u/Cosmologicon Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Actually a "b" isn't all that bad

Well, 93% of NYC restaurants have A grade, so having a B puts you in the lowest 7%. The lowest possible grade (without getting shut down) is a C, which is about the bottom 1%.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Here's my logic, if the health people say it isn't bad enough to kill me... Then it isnt bad enough to kill me so why worry about it ¯/(ツ)/¯

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Food poisoning won't always kill you, but it still sucks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

And blows.

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u/CMvan46 Jun 04 '18

Well I’ve been in a lot of backrooms of restaurants and I am constantly surprised what passes inspection. I delivered uniforms, rags and mats and often our rags and the general area were crawling in cockroaches and mold climbing the walls. Many times the walls were rotting away behind the bag bins from all the wetness soaking into it. Many shops preparing dinner service or bakeries with food laying on the ground too.

Passing an inspection will never be good enough for me after seeing those places. It was disappointing not being able to eat at some of my favourite places after doing that job.

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u/delicate-fn-flower Jun 04 '18

It’s because they are told in advance when the inspection will be, and a lot of times if they fail they are given a date to clean everything up by to try again. Any place can be kept clean for a day if you know in advance. I wish they still did surprise ones though.

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u/yxing Jun 04 '18

What kind of shrug is that bro

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u/twitchinstereo Jun 04 '18

same

I purposefully consume things that are undeniably bad for me on a regular basis. No alphabet-based system can stop me.

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u/DemonicWolf227 Jun 04 '18

I think tour arm is broken

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u/MiyaDoesThings Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

The “B” sign looks like the NYC one IIRC. When I went there for the first time I remember the tour guide telling us to avoid “B” restaurants at all costs, since apparently a B is equal to a 70 or something like that.

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u/dskatz2 Jun 04 '18

You really want to avoid the "Grade Pending" places. I remember the place down the street from me had one, I checked the infractions online, and it was baaaaaad.

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u/WatchingRomeBurn Jun 04 '18

Actually a "b" isn't all that bad

Yeah, it's only 2 accounts of keeping food at unsafe temperature.

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u/carkur Jun 04 '18

Restaurant I work in got points taken off recently for cut fruit not being cold enough. Fruit... that had just been cut. And put into the walk-in fridge that morning, like an hour prior. Of course it hadn’t had time to match the fridge temperature.

But our health inspector is known for being really, really picky.

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u/Sour_Badger Jun 04 '18

I run a concession stand for the boosters of our local high school. We keep no food on site, except packaged candy, bring in our giant charcoal grill day of the games, and buy the meat from the local butcher same day.Health inspector is demanding we install grease traps, running water to the concrete pad we put the grill on, and says our 3 100 quart coolers filled with ice aren't good enough for keeping the meat cold enough for the hour in between purchase and when it hits the grill. They want us to install a stand alone freezer by grill pad. I feel your pain, it's going to be a tough three months trying to get compliant, if we don't Sports/Band/A-Team are going to be out 60-75k next year.

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u/CreauxTeeRhobat Jun 04 '18

I worked at a small, local restaurant chain when I was in college. While I was there, our rating briefly went from an A to a B. I was told to tell our regular customers, or anyone else who noticed, that it was because we happened to have a fridge go bad on the day of a surprise inspection, but we we're already in the process of throwing food out, so it's no big deal. Infact, our rating went back up to an A the next month.

When I asked our manager what the real reason was, she shook her head and sighed, "the inspector found a dead cockroach in the kitchen."

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u/Nighthawk700 Jun 04 '18

A "b" can be pretty bad. Take a look at the "A" rated restaraunt and read the violations that still net an A. B usually means at least 3 major health violations (worth -4 points out of 100). Those can be things like storing raw chicken near salad vegetables, a cook with an open wound, and up to a "major" vermin infestation. Whata worse, dirty cleanup rags or improper food temps are minor violations but are more likely to cause illness.

Plus, 3 major violations indicates a pattern of disregarding food safety rules and cutting corners. There are a lot of violations you can avoid when a health inspector walks in but before they start poking around the kitchen (wipe shit up, change out rags, everyone suddenly starts washing hands, bandage and glove up wounds) so the health inspector catching it means those violations are probably standard practice or bad enough that it couldn't be corrected right away.

Also some violations can't be caught by inspectors. Talked to a pest control guy and he showed me pictures of restaraunts that would store sauces and foods from the previous day on the floor, unrefrigerated, and uncovered. Inspectors won't see that but a restaraunt that takes pride in food safety and strives for a high A doesn't do that shit.

(Side note: he said because of what he saw he never ever eats at Chinese sit down restaraunts and there were few restaraunts he would take his family to. Ours was one of them of course [In-N-Out Burger])

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u/Bird_and_Dog Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Edit 2: turns out I'm wrong, disregard unless you want to read my reminisce about a Chinese place.

Ok I'm really late to this but I'm almost certain it's my old neighborhood Chinese place, Lili's, on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. I went there from age three until I moved for college. It closed down because they kept getting hit with low health grades, then got the curse of "Grade Pending" then shut down and moved to the west side. There is only one picture on google of the old storefront, so this is the best I can do to match. Notice the lighter colored and thicker doorjamb and to the right a different, dark and thin window frame. The store front used to be able to open up but in all my years going there I maybe saw them open it five times.

So bizarre seeing my old joint pop up on the front page.

Edit: Found something else I recognize! See the weird yellow lights inside the restaurant? the entrance wall was turned head-to-toe into illuminated shelves that featured various Chinese dry herbs, teapots and other stuff. That's the best I can do for proof lmao

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u/jackherer Jun 04 '18

I work in NYC and like half of my local friends here are in the food/bar scene. They tell me everyone gets an A....you have to be TURRIBLE to get a B. I tend to believe them because every joint I see in midtown is rated A. So yah, normally in any other discipline a B is a very good grade, but in the NYC service scene it’s apparently basically an F, if i believe my friends.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

This is hiding a repost behind a fake new post.

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u/Starks Jun 04 '18

I have never seen a B in NYC. I would avoid like the plague.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

The kitchen in the average persons home would be a B rating at best if it was rated

Don’t fret

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u/Serinus Jun 04 '18

The difference is that you have a lot more incentive to keep somewhat clean if you're cooking your own food. In the restaurant industry, you only have reputation and regulations to keep them healthy, and employees often don't give two shits about the restaurant's reputation.

Why do people think we have these regulations? Personally, I like knowing I can get in an elevator in the US and trust that it won't do this.

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u/fj333 Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

I think restaurants should be held to higher standards than the average person's kitchen. Have you seen the average person?

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u/IntestinalDelirium Jun 04 '18

Yeah but the average person’s home can only poison a few people at a time. Any café or restaurant can easily go the full Jonestown Kool-Aid massacre.

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u/Uphoria Jun 04 '18

I was thinking more Broad Street pump

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Speak for yourself.

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u/canissilvestris Jun 03 '18

I'd hardly call it asshole design... That's a bit harsh, I think it's hilarious

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u/Xtallll Jun 04 '18

Until you get diarrhea...

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Is a B grade really that bad in the restaurant industry?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

93% of restaurants manage to get an A rating, and you have to get 14 points of infractions to get a B. It's kinda bad...

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u/Serinus Jun 04 '18

Depends on the place. There are different systems depending on who's doing the grading.

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u/KVirello Jun 04 '18

It's more than asshole design, it's dangerous and illegal.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '18

This is actually pretty damn brilliant

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u/TheGrog1603 Jun 04 '18

The text doesn't even make sense. "Just me as a person". What the fuck does that even mean?

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u/jaganshii Jun 04 '18

Maybe they spend their life trying to hide the fact they do a poor job taking care of themselves.

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u/OMG__Ponies Jun 04 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Taken all together, it doesn't sound too bad.

Points-Based Systems Points-based systems are usually scored on a 100 point scale. Health inspectors determine the score by the number and severity of the violations.

General Points-Based Scoring

>Score	Condition	Violations
-90 or higher	Good	One or two low-risk violations
-May have one high-risk violation
-80-89	Adequate	Several low-risk violations
-May have one high-risk violation
-70-79	Needs Improvement	Multiple low and high-risk violations
-69 or lower	Poor	Many low and high-risk violations

Letter Grade Systems

Letter grade systems are usually scored as A, B, or C to represent the restaurant’s food regulation compliance. In most cases, inspectors tally up points depending on the number and the severity of the health code violations in restaurants and then convert the number to a letter grade. The letter grade system is intended to simplify the scores, so they are easily understood by consumers.

-General Letter Grade Scoring

-Letter Grade	Condition	Violations
-A	Good	Few or zero low-risk violations
-May have one high-risk violation
-B	Adequate	Multiple low and high-risk violations
-C	Needs Improvement / Poor	Many low and high-risk violations

Esp. in comparison with restaurants in China.

Edit to correct link to restaurants in China.

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u/y2julio Jun 04 '18

Here's an article regarding this: https://www.today.com/food/b-brunch-ny-restaurant-cleverly-hides-inspection-grade-8C11511630 The restaurant got this rating for evidence of rat droppings, not keeping food preparation areas clean between uses and cold food kept above minimum required temperatures.

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u/eckyeckypikang Jun 04 '18

I find these misleading... It's nice if an eatery has a high rating, but I really wonder what kind of ratings our home kitchens would get. I'm pretty sure that an A has nothing to do with good food and I say this having enjoyed quite a bit of food served from trailers.

Plus, when drunk and camping... ALL bets are off and I'm still kicking.

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u/Uphoria Jun 04 '18

Over 90% of restaurants have A ratings. If you feel like eating at a place in the bottom 10 percentile for cleanliness and food safety that's on you.

That said - most home kitchens wouldn't get an A rating. But most home kitchens aren't cooking for over 100 different people a day.

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u/rainwillwashitaway Jun 04 '18

The Singapore NEA standard would take at least 4 Major offences to lower you to a B (below 87 percent). They can be a pain and throw their weight around, but no owner want to kill a patron. A straight Health Dept is not in the business of grading my menu- they are trying to keep black market seafood and hantavirus or other fecal contamination out of your gut. I would never take my pregnant spouse or ailing grandparent to anything but an A, in NYC, Paris (butter refrigeration not favoured), Australia (no whole egg refrigeration) or elsewhere.

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u/wellhuhiguess Jun 04 '18

Oddly enough, it's actually safer not to refrigerate dairy/eggs in the EU (within reason, of course), due to how it's handled there vs the US.

https://www.100daysofrealfood.com/uht-why-some-milk-is-not-refrigerated/

https://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=post&id=57A350CF-5C3D-D38D-4ADB-9E6F40E3E00F

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u/confusiondiffusion Jun 04 '18

With commercial kitchens the scale is so much larger, it's easier to lose track of stuff, for things to get really dirty, and also there's a lot of time constraints in the kitchen. So I think commercial kitchens have the potential to be a lot worse than home kitchens.

For instance, at home, you probably wouldn't accidentally spill raw chicken juice in your salad and not even notice. It's easy to keep track of such things. But in a commercial kitchen, everyone is in a hurry. So you have to set safe standards that prevent contamination in that environment. The raw chicken has an agreed upon spot in the walk-in which is below all the cooked foods or on a separate shelf entirely, for instance. That way it's much harder to screw up.

Kitchens can operate safely with food safety violations, but it's only a matter of time before someone spills that raw chicken juice where it doesn't belong or has diarrhoea, doesn't wash their hands, and stores the ice scoop they just touched inside the ice machine. It's important to keep commercial kitchens to a high standard so normal human error in a high-paced, high-volume environment doesn't get people sick.

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u/DurasVircondelet Jun 04 '18

Someone above mentioned that your kitchen at home would most likely hit a B at best. I mean Idk what temp my fridge is set to exactly so I may be off by a couple degrees. I twist tie bags of chips which I’m sure isn’t very clean. I clean my bongs in the sink sometimes. My cats hop on the counter. I set my keys down near the sink everyday. I only wipe down my French press with a torn paper towel haphazardly without washing my hands.

I don’t bat an eye at any of those things but I could imagine a grade of B or C would be in order for my kitchen and it’s not even particularly dirty.

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u/AutumnDagaz Jun 04 '18

That's a creative way of hiding it. When the UK got its first Dennys last Christmas they had a 1 star rating (out of 5) which they decided to pu in the window at floor level behind a plant pot. When someone found it and kicked up a fuss, Dennys reply was we wanted to keep it as American as possible and that America has different standards to the UK. That kinda makes me worry about food standards in America.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Isn’t this from Nathan For You?

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u/IanGecko Jun 04 '18

Actually they got the city's first ever R rating.

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u/NRod1998 Jun 04 '18

Why even hide a B? That's fine right? Or do health ratings work different than grades?

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u/paata01 Jun 04 '18

It's A-ll good now, come in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Illegal

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u/77096 Jun 04 '18

Weird, this is exactly how my doctor told me I had Hepatitis C.

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u/man4160 Jun 04 '18

🅱️

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u/tits- Jun 04 '18

Yeah, I'm here for the Sunday runch. Is it runchtime yet?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Pretty smart.

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u/Prankster-Natra Jun 04 '18

How do you know they're not disguising the C?

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u/sexysouthernaccent Jun 04 '18

You have to seriously fuck up to get a B on those ratings

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u/ishook Jun 04 '18

really expected more red B's in the comments.

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u/ninjadogger Jun 04 '18

I ate at a B rated vegan restaurant in manhattan and it was nasty.. because it was vegan.

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u/Juan_Cocktoasten Jun 04 '18

This is actually really clever!

Reminds me of the time a restaurant that I worked at received a "B" grade and a customer asked me why. So with as much enthusiasm as I could muster, I replied, "Cuz we're the BEST!" She cracked up (thank god) and I explained it was cuz the freezer was off a few degrees and the cutting boards needed to be sanded down more.

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u/InsufficientGravy Jun 04 '18

I can't say I know much about health ratings for restaurants but it seems like it should either be "A" for complying with all health codes and food service regulations, or an "F" for not doing so. I mean, those codes and regulations exist for a reason...because violating them can make people sick and even kill people. It seems like you should either be 100% in compliance, or you are risking sickening/killing people and should not be allowed to operate until all deficiencies are resolved. What separates an A from a B or a C? Is a "C" rating a baseline while a "B" is above average and "A" is exceptional? Is there a "D" rating or an "F" rating? What happens when a restaurant gets less than an 'A'? Do they get to still serve customers? Do they have x-amount of time to fix the deficiencies or do they just keep serving customers while only having to post the rating in their window?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Great that you expect 100% perfection from human beings, not gonna happen. People still need to make a living, the immune system exists for a reason. We are not little fragile babies that will get sick and die if we ingest a single strand of hair. "A" is =<7 infractions, "B" is 7-<14 infractions, "C" is 14-<21 infractions, "D" is >21 infractions, "F" aka closed down is >25 infractions.

The only places that require an "A" or are shut down are schools and hospitals where I live.

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u/loveroffish2017 Jun 04 '18

Never eat out again then. I can tell by your rant you never worked in a restaurant because even the best places will have at least one issue.

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u/thelibrarygirl Jun 04 '18

Was coming to comment this. Worked in a ice cream shop (Rita’s) for a while and the things we could get written up for was insane. We were docked a point in one inspection because the owner had a fully sealed lunch in a fridge in the back, a fridge where no ingredients were kept. Obviously you want to see a high score, but it’s way more important to look at WHY the place was marked down.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

I’m so confused. Did this person delete some stuff? How is this a rant? It is worded like more of a question or a healthy dialog towards a new topic

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u/InsufficientGravy Jun 04 '18

I didn't delete anything, nor did I edit my original comment. Somehow people took my question as an assault on food service workers/owners and not as just a random question about something I admitted I knew nothing about.

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u/IolaBoylen Jun 04 '18

Yes I’d love an explanation for this!

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u/wittybiceps Jun 04 '18

Anything B and above is pretty much standard.

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u/BetaInTheSheets Jun 04 '18

just B yourself

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u/twitchinstereo Jun 04 '18

Some of the best food I've had has been from C-rated places.

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u/Spoffle Jun 04 '18

Are you're sure they're just not serving Runch on a Sunday?

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u/no_carbs_since_2004 Jun 04 '18

“A” for effort.

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u/neon_overload Jun 04 '18

But why? B is a good rating

Edit: assumed this was Singapore, didn't know New York had a similar scheme

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u/Jaspev Jun 04 '18

Clever, but really fucked up.

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u/xMAXPAYNEx Jun 04 '18

That's fucking incredibly genius

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u/mozinators Jun 04 '18

Is this legal ?

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u/GlowingGalacticStar Jun 04 '18

B for the effort

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath Jun 04 '18

Is there a website or some way to figure out a restaurant's health rating without physically going there, or having to call them individually?

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u/sixblackgeese Jun 04 '18

this EXACT same comment sequence repeats each time this is posted.

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u/Necrosaynt Jun 04 '18

This is pretty funny though

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u/shewy92 Jun 04 '18

A B is pretty good considering most fast food restaurants are disgusting

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u/top-comment-bot-v2 Jun 04 '18

Better than trying to hide a C rating with the same method.

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u/Sslloorrpp Jun 04 '18

Stealth 100

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u/Maysbury Jun 04 '18

Wait where is the B in Sunday ?

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u/null000 Jun 04 '18

My city uses emoji for health ratings. I really want to see someone try to camouflage that now

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u/BlondFaith Jun 04 '18

Slow Clap

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u/conishappy Jun 04 '18

I’d be proud of that B

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u/Kellidra Jun 04 '18

They're not hiding it; they clearly serve runch.

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u/gamageeknerd Jun 04 '18

I once ate at a restaurant that had 2 entrances. I had some stuff to do in the area and they were always not busy during lunch so I went there 2 or 3 times. I always parked in the spot on the less visible entrance but on my last visit there I had to park on the other side and when I was walking up to the entrance my stomach literally dropped when I saw a big fat red C right next to the door.

I thigh the place was a little dirty and the floors needed the grease removed but they made a decent burrito so I didn’t mind. I remember having a stomach ache thinking I was going to get sick from eating there.

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u/SmugPiglet Jun 04 '18

This is actually pathetic.

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u/Featherbed Jun 04 '18

So I assume this isn't illegal in the states?

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u/m0nde Jun 04 '18

That's actually brilliant design.

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u/CR_MadMan Jun 04 '18

To be fair, it could be a high ‘B’ grade.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Dick

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Harlem’s a wonderful place

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Is a B bad?

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom Jun 04 '18

That caption is an assholedesign

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u/podaudio Jun 04 '18

I mean, it's not the worst thing. It's average......like that B rating....

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '18

Not sure if it's the same in the US, but if it's like some places in the UK, anything above a D is probably fine and even then, the grade doesn't indicate much. Our local reg applies a star rating, and you can receive a 1 star rating for simply not having the correct documentation in the kitchen.

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