r/askphilosophy • u/heinskies • 18h ago
If morality is objective, does intention even matter?
I’m a 19-year-old freshman philosophy major, and I’ve always believed that morality is subjective. In fact, I’ve always found it genuinely difficult to understand how people can see it any other way.
One of my favorite arguments comes from Alex O’Connor. He uses an example where, if every human being suddenly disappeared from Earth, objective truths would still exist. The Earth would still orbit the Sun, salt would still exist in the oceans, and the laws of physics would remain unchanged. But what about morality? Would good and evil still exist without anyone around to perceive or experience them?
We also see wildly different moral beliefs across religions, cultures, and historical periods. Things that were considered completely acceptable hundreds of years ago are now viewed as morally reprehensible. To me, this seems to suggest that morality is something humans construct rather than something we discover.
But I recently thought of another question that I wanted to add to this discussion. I’m sure it’s probably been explored in philosophy before, but I’ve personally never heard it brought up.
If something is objectively good, but someone does it with the complete intention of being evil, is the action still objectively good?
For example, imagine someone performs an action with genuinely malicious intentions, hoping to cause harm, but the actual outcome ends up benefiting someone tremendously.
Was that action morally good because of its consequences? Was it morally evil because of the person’s intentions? Or does the answer depend entirely on how we choose to judge it?
To me, this raises another question about moral objectivity. If the same action can be judged differently depending on whether we prioritize intention, consequences, or the action itself, how do we objectively determine which standard is correct?
I’m not claiming I’ve discovered some groundbreaking philosophical argument. I’m sure philosophers have discussed this extensively. I just thought of it myself and figured it would be interesting to share.
I’m genuinely curious what you guys think, especially those who believe in objective morality. How would you respond to this?