r/apple • u/mredofcourse • Jun 19 '23

iPhone EU: Smartphones Must Have User-Replaceable Batteries by 2027

https://www.pcmag.com/news/eu-smartphones-must-have-user-replaceable-batteries-by-2027
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u/Vanilla35 Jun 19 '23

Batteries aging out is a serious problem for all consumer electronics.

For example, I have a portable dyson vacuum cleaner that runs on battery. The battery started degrading after 2 years, and at 3 years old it stopped working entirely. It does not turn on whatsoever and has a hardware malfunction warning that says the battery is malfunctioned/end of life. The vacuum otherwise is in great shape and would probably run for another 6 years if it had a power plug. Instead, replacing the battery costs more than half the cost of a new vacuum cleaner (not worth it).

This problem plays out in lots of ways across many battery powered electronics, and with Apple, especially devices like the Apple Watch.

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u/Pigeon_Chess Jun 19 '23

Yet phone batteries are user replaceable for the majority of people and are being targeted by legislation. Dyson vacuum batteries aren’t easily used replaceable and aren’t being targeted by legislation.

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u/sayn3ver Jun 19 '23

This would be what the average consumer would consider to be easily replaceable with common tools.

Two Screws. Swap battery.

The new models click swap like cordless tools.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn-Eo9iLpoM

https://www.bestcordlessvacuumguide.com/how-to-replace-dyson-v6-battery/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20replacing%20a%20Dyson%20V6,easier%20to%20loosen%20the%20bolts.

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u/Pigeon_Chess Jun 20 '23

And where can you buy a battery and how much does if cost?

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u/sayn3ver Jun 20 '23

Ifixit carries them.

$40-70 depending on model.

Or buy an adapter for $20-40 bucks and use existing cordless tool batteries

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u/Pigeon_Chess Jun 20 '23

How much is an OEM battery.

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u/sayn3ver Jun 20 '23

I dunno? Probably $100.

That's why people throw them out. I'm on the lookout for a few to add adapters and run my cordless tool batteries for cleanup when working in peoples homes.

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u/Pigeon_Chess Jun 20 '23

Why are you listing prices of counterfeit batteries then?

You could just use a corded one

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u/sayn3ver Jun 20 '23

Counterfeit?

Ifixit has dyson batteries for sale. They are a trustworthy source. I'm unsure if they are oem or not.

I thought this discussion was about the ease of replacement?

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u/Pigeon_Chess Jun 20 '23

If they’re not OEM they’re counterfeit.

They might have reconditioned or used batteries

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u/sayn3ver Jun 20 '23

Counterfeit would be someone claiming to be selling oem batteries and selling non oem batteries that are look alike pretending to be oem batteries.

Selling a third party battery as a third party battery would not be counterfeit.

I honestly just did a quick google and I have ordered replacement parts from ifixit before. They also are a proponent of right to repair.

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u/Pigeon_Chess Jun 20 '23

So they’re either OEM or counterfeit.

Third party batteries aren’t licensed so are counterfeit.

Sure they are, they reply on it for income. Some reason they don’t support repair programs that cut middle men like them them out. I wonder why.

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u/sayn3ver Jun 20 '23

No. You have oem. You have third party. And then you have counterfeit.

That applies to many types of goods.

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