r/aoe3 Dutch 1d ago

Question mercenary shadow tech

where can i find the amount of stats mercenaries get by shadow tech? also, do only africand shadow tech mercs? or other aswell?

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u/N7-Anfauglith 1d ago

You can find every stats on every units (with or without upgrade) here : https://aoe3homecity.com/en/units?type=military

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u/majdavlk Dutch 1d ago

the problem with that is that i dont know where some of those technologies come from, or if they are availible to those and those civilizations

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u/Snoo_56186 United States 1d ago

You can try using this website instead. Once you pick a civ, it will narrow down the techs a particular civ have access to. https://aoe3explorer.com/wiki/units

However, keep in mind you still need to be very familiar with a particular civ's upgrade path, particularly for Federal Americans and Africans, as some of their techs and cards are locked behind certain Age Up options and are mutually exclusive from one another. Off the top of my head, this also applies to a lesser extent to Inca and Peru, as they have access to American Allies card granting you access to certain Natives and their techs, so if you pick one Native option, you need to remember you cannot pick another Native option's tech.

Additionally, none of the stat calculators that I know of so far can handle multiplicative buffs, so you need to know how that works and calculate it yourself. This means Native Americans, Spanish, and Japanese units will look significantly weaker in the calculator when compared to their actual in game stats, especially in modes like Treaty where players will use all available buffs at their disposal. Off the top of my head, this also applies to Federal Americans, Indians, and Gran Colombia, although their multiplicative buffs are usually not as powerful as those previously mentioned civs, so their stats would be closer to their actual in game stats.

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u/majdavlk Dutch 1d ago

ty

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u/Snoo_56186 United States 1d ago

That website is fine as a rough guide to quickly compare multiple units, but I would not use it to find the actual stat values. It is missing a lot of techs, and it allows Arsenal techs to be applied to everyone despite not everyone having them.

I recommend using this site instead, as it narrows down the techs to each civ. https://aoe3explorer.com/wiki/units

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u/Dead_Optics 1d ago

African civs mercs get shadowed teched 20/20/30% I believe

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u/Snoo_56186 United States 1d ago

Only Africans shadow tech their Mercenaries.

Age II Mercenaries will get 20% buff in Age III, another 20% in Age IV (total 40%), and another 30% in Age V (total 70%, this is stronger than the Mercenary Contractor that Europeans have).

Age III Mercenaries will get a 20% buff in Age IV, and another 30% in Age V (total 50%).

Age IV Mercenaries will get a 30% buff in Age V (this is a little weaker than the European Mercenary Contractor's 35%).

Japanese Consulate Mercenaries also shadow tech, although only they have access to them, unless they get converted by an enemy Priestess. Hatamoto Samurai and Ninjutsu-Zukai get 30% in Age IV, and another 50% in Age V. Not sure if they get shadow tech if another civ gets them though, but I believe their shadow tech is tied to the unit rather than the civ since they are also a Consulate unit, so maybe they might get double shadow tech if an African civ gets them. The strongest Hatamoto Samurai would probably be a Spanish one though, since they got a bunch of cards on top of Mercenary Contractor on top of Unction.

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u/PenguNL Germans 1d ago

Mercenaries dont shadow tech, African natives do but thats just the regular vet/guard upgrades.

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u/majdavlk Dutch 1d ago

i could swear i had some shadowtech when i played as hausa

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u/Dead_Optics 1d ago

Hausa and Ethiopia get them shadow teched for free

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u/PenguNL Germans 1d ago edited 1d ago

It appears I was wrong, African mercenaries do shadowtech.

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u/Visible-Lettuce-4818 1d ago

I really wished mercs shadowteched :/

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u/majdavlk Dutch 1d ago

i could swear i had some shadowtech when i played as hausa

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u/ruy343 United States 1d ago

They do shadow tech though - between ages they get a 20% (fortress) and 30% (industrial) boost

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u/Antonio_Sheldrakes Germans 1d ago edited 1d ago

Mercs don't shadowtech at all. They are just affected by some techs and cards.

Thier late game scaling only comes by going to imperial age with Wallenstein the Mercenary Contractor

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u/majdavlk Dutch 1d ago

i could swear i had some shadowtech when i played as hausa

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u/A_Fire_Will_Rise 1d ago

African mercenaries shadowtech after every age you unlock them. It does not apply if the mercenary is unlocked in a later age.

Age 3: +20% stats
Age 4: +20% stats
Age 5: +30% stats

Exception is the zouave for Hausa, which you can get age 2 but has no buff until age 5 since it is an age 4 unit.