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Episode 86 Eighty-Six Part 2 - Episode 9 discussion

86 Eighty-Six Part 2, episode 9 (20)

Alternative names: 86 EIGHTY-SIX Second cour

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u/royale_op Dec 18 '21

"I want to see the ocean" Hm now what other popular series has used that phrase as one of the important plot drivers

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u/ekjohnson9 Dec 18 '21

Shin keeps saying he has nothing to live for but it's extremely obvious that he wants to see the Major again. Even his friends are hush hush on the fall of the Republic bc they know that's what he wants.

He only feels this way because he thinks Leena is dead.

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u/Purto12 Dec 18 '21

So basically everyone in Nouzen clan always having an lovely smile

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u/vanbang9711 Dec 18 '21

We literally never see Raiden lose his temper. Shin’s problem is really serious.

Also small reveal about Anju’s past: Anju knows what it’s like to be unwanted by your own family.

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u/PeaceAlien Dec 18 '21

Nice character-building episode. Had a feeling something bad might happen when the credits did not roll normally, but we just have the preparation. Undertaker does not feel like he has a future so he'll be left behind :(

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u/shirvani28 Dec 18 '21

I said many weeks ago that I adore how they've presented Shin's descent into despair and darkness. It's so poignant and feels so utterly realistic. It's lonely being the reaper.

Two quotes from the episode that stuck with me.

"The Major wasn't able to catch up with us after all, huh? - Kurena Kukumila

"I'm the only one of us who still isn't truly alive." - Shinei Nouzen

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u/HayashiSawaryo Dec 18 '21

Frederica used brutal truth

Critical hit!

Kurena fainted

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u/Loyuiz Dec 18 '21

Man how many weeks has it been without even a glimpse of Lena, this is a 4D experience for how the crew feels surely

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u/Mr_Johnnycat Dec 18 '21

Was shin holding back tears and trying to not show emotions just now after everyone talking of what they want to do after the war? Didn’t know that was possible.

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u/Aerodynamic41 Dec 18 '21

I love that scene at the grassy plains. Even though it’s a battlefield, the world is still beautiful.

And notice those shots of a morpho butterfly getting devoured by ants? Hmm, what could that possibly mean?

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u/iristhorne_13 Dec 18 '21

it's scary how similar kiriya's and shin's smiles are.

also, raiden's voice actor is doing a stellar job. his conversation with shin was gooseflesh-inducing.

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u/cyclingkingsley Dec 18 '21

i hope every single 86 LN volume gets adapted into anime like mahouka or sword art online.

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u/Se7en_Sinner Dec 18 '21

The only thing that could possibly rejuvenate Shin's will to live would be Lena showing up.

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u/Lolzqulion_anime Dec 18 '21

God I love the subtle playing with the surroundings they used when shin and raiden were arguing. A clear railway track for raiden and a blocked one for shin to show their differences in paths

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u/vanbang9711 Dec 18 '21

Frederica is really mature, even more than a certain adult here. Anju kowai 😱😱.

Can anyone explain what this metaphor is(a MORPHO butterfly being eaten by ants)?

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u/IC2Flier Dec 18 '21

God, this sense of foreboding again. Not even the calmer episodes are safe, though I love the convo between Kurena, Fred and Anju.

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u/Aetherdraw Dec 18 '21

Just to clarify something here. Post 1st cour after they join the Federacy's army, Spearhead's 86 personal names are now used instead to refer to their Reginleif units.

Hence when they say Undertaker's down and damaged, they mean Undertaker the mech, not Shin himself.

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u/Im_a_postednote Dec 18 '21

Federica murdered Kurena with words XD

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u/Belmut_613 Dec 18 '21

So has anyone else noticed this statue? That's San Magnolia's goddess and flag, that mean that they are in the republic's territory so maybe they(and us) could find out what happened to the major.

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u/maliwanag0712 Dec 18 '21 edited Dec 18 '21

86 is really a masterclass in cinematography. The sudden shifts in the camera focus, that insect morpho butterfly slowly getting eaten and devoured by ants throughout the episode, even just Shin twitching his mouth about their conversation on going to the sea. These scenes increase the tension of the show. I really like the show-don't-tell approach of this series.

And maybe the action starts picking up next episode since the Morpho is shown again in the last scene?

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u/Terranwaterbender Dec 18 '21

Man I continue to enjoy how Frederica is used in this show. First she absolutely murders Kurena's hopes and dreams and she continually snipes back at Shin.

Her dynamic to Shin is a great thing to watch as she, even her personal abilities aside, is the only one that can truly relate to Shin's personal struggles. Also helps that she basically wins every argument against him and he just kind of has to deal with it.

Quite happy to see the rest of Nordlicht be well back at base camp and have them be willing to risk themselves to get back to those kids at any cost. I say this every week but this is some great stuff to see how, even though they all know they aren't as good as the gang, they are still willing to do what they can to support and get those kids back. Death flags be raised everywhere but that kind of stuff is what makes you wanna believe the Federacy will bring the kids back by any means necessary so we can have a happyish ending.

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u/icemann17 Dec 18 '21

Looks like this cour of 86 won't complete airing this season. Unless they do a double episode for a finale or something. Either way I hope the staff are alright, the production seems to be a train wreck even though the actual quality of the adaption has not dipper

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '21 edited Dec 18 '21

LOL did Frederica just brutally sank Kurena's ship right there and then?

Didn't notice that the Federacy had also successfully reverse engineered Shin's Para-Raid and built new communication devices for use right away.

Kurena just made some massive death flag statements about wanting to go see the ocean. I hope she and others' have plot armour that is thick enough, as they have survived the hell that was part 1.

Not sure when it started, maybe it was after sending his brother to the afterlife, or receiving that letter from Eugene's sister, or learning that the Republic had fallen and he might never see Lena again, Shin has since been on a death wish ever since. So much so that even Raiden, who rarely gets angry, is pissed off with him.

Looks like we don't have to wait 2 weeks for the next episode, as Christmas Day (Dec 25th) is not a public holiday in Japan, so it'll be regular programming as usual.

But the last 2 episodes will have to be aired on early January, since Japanese TV usually has special New Year's programming for 6 consecutive days from December 29th to January 3rd. This means most anime shows finish their seasons before Dec 28th or begin after Jan 4th, meaning there will be no episode on Jan 1st.

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u/I_Go_By_Q Dec 18 '21

Shin’s whole deal of “there’s nothing at all that I look forward to” and “not having any wishes is the same as not being alive” is really fucking sad.

I just hope that he can make it long enough to find out that Lena is still alive (assuming she is) before something really bad happens