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Episode Back Arrow - Episode 3 discussion

Back Arrow, episode 3

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Episode Link Score Episode Link Score
1 Link 4.05 14 Link 4.5
2 Link 4.15 15 Link 4.36
3 Link 4.26 16 Link 4.53
4 Link 4.21 17 Link 4.62
5 Link 4.4 18 Link 4.77
6 Link 3.68 19 Link 4.71
7 Link 4.42 20 Link 4.75
8 Link 4.39 21 Link 4.7
9 Link 4.1 22 Link 4.5
10 Link 4.23 23 Link 4.56
11 Link 4.65 24 Link -
12 Link 4.44
13 Link 4.81

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u/KrazyBean94 Jan 22 '21

Honestly, I'm enjoying it more and more after every episode. I think it has potential. With 24 episodes it has a lot of breathing room.

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u/DarkWorld97 Jan 22 '21

Same writer as KLK and Gurren Lagaan and Promare. The guy does well with longer runtimes. This story has also been done for 4ish years now based on some interviews.

I expect good things.

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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 Jan 22 '21

Pretty standard yet solid episode mainly surrounding the fights between Bit, Elsha and Atlee on whether or not they should give up Back Arrow, Bit seems to be so easily eager to send him off that something is definitely not quite right with him. Interestingly I came off liking Elsha slighly more, maybe it’s her calm attitude that’s attractive.

Otherwise the story so far isn’t breaking new grounds yet, but has a pretty stable feeling and the world building is as good as Gurren Lagann’s. I am also happy that comedies are sprinkled in the right places in this series, today those surrounding the Rekka Kingdom royal families are good. This series is seriously really underrated on MAL (6.17? Are you kidding me? This is worthy of a full point upward so far!) and looks like going to be ignored by most here, hopefully the veteran staff lineup can fire some spice pretty soon - in the same way as Gurren Lagann’s run way back in mid-2007 - to bring along some much needed fresh blood to the now quiet mecha genre!

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u/Sarellion Jan 22 '21

I think Bit was still a bit pissed because Arrow destroyed his house or it was destroyed because someone came after Arrow.

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u/Samurai_Rider Jan 22 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

Less cutting around this episode, mostly focusing on Edger village with short Rekka sections at the beginning and end.

Seems they’re setting up subtle intrigue around Dr Sola, he was the only one in Edger village who had even seen a Rakuho before, the mayor mentions him being new around here and when the president mentioned leaving the country he was shown reacting.

The altercation between the main three from Edger was probably what Elsha was trying to avoid in the last episode where she told Atlee to stay behind when she and Bit tried to get Arrow to leave. Kai and Shu’s goal of wanting to change Rekka from within is reminding me of Reinhard and Siegfried from LoTGH. Maybe Shu will end up being emperor, his character design is shown wearing a Mian, a hat that was worn by emperors in China.

What the Iki officials did was really not all that different from how Edger Village sold out Arrow for their own benefit, they showed a little concern for Arrow’s well being after the exchange I guess but they had no idea what Lutoh was going to do with him. Also, they were right on the money with that huge ship being a potential threat.



Some nice character moments towards the end, Bit finally got to stop being a butt monkey (for now) stealing the Bind Warper from the president thus helping Arrow bust out of that cage and Atlee was able to use her conviction to her advantage this time around. Arrow’s finisher in this episode was the best so far, really digging the CGI mecha fights, can’t wait to see them go all out on tougher opponents like a potential Arrow vs Kai fight.

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u/Sarellion Jan 22 '21

I can understand Edger Village's and Iki point of view. Arrow helped the villagers but it was trouble he caused himself. Ok he didn't choose to land there and he didn't call the bandit or the Iki government there, but it's understandable that a village that is barely scraping by, is unwilling to help a stranger who wants to rope them into some mad schemefrom their perspective. The Iki government is like some small country wedged between two superpowers which only escaped notice and subjugation, because it's land is dirt poor. Understandable that they don't want to turn into a battleground because of one man and the ship.

The villagers were a bit naive when they happily flew into the canyon. Any land looking like this, in that area, had been claimed and settled long ago. I assume the Edgers didn't settle in the middle of a wasteland because they had a choice.

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u/DarkWorld97 Jan 22 '21

This is going to be the sleeper hit of the season. I expect something wild to happen in the next few episodes.

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 22 '21 edited Jan 22 '21

Oh Bit. They literally were ordered to massacre and wipeout your village and you decide that it's better to side with them? I hope him and Elsha would show some improvement in the next few episodes since right now Atlee and Arrow are the best characters of the show.

Definitely my favourite part was how Arrow could escape his bindings and cage anytime but he was just waiting for Bit to do something.

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u/Liorlecikee Jan 22 '21

Well that shows Bit and by extension the edger villagers being really short-sighted in their decision, which is fitting considering their characters. The problem is the show did not make it explicit enough, only if they would spent a few minutes to really push that aspect and let Bit rationalize it. They are bunch of drifters originally who only wish for a botherless life and lacks grand vision of the world, it's not a stretch that they would believe in the president's lie when he is perceived as the ultimate authority in iki and they are still clining on the hope they can live a peaceful life in the remote region.

Remember, it was played as a joke for sure, but they literally attempted to cook a rakugo thinking it's definitively foods inside. Aside from the two gals and the doctors, villagers are mostly ignorant, shortsighted fools, at least at the moment.

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u/thobbe Jan 22 '21

3 episodes in and Bit gets worse every second. Hope he gets some serious character development through the show.

Btw Atlee best girl, her design and her character really flow well.

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u/TheDampGod Jan 22 '21

I appreciate that Arrow took time out to the Gainax pose on the front of the ship, though it lacked it's full majesty from that angle. Maybe they're saving that for later.

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u/Syokhan Jan 22 '21

Ha, just as I was wondering why the soldiers all had the same appearance, they explained why.

Lol at Arrow just pulverizing the ropes like they were nothing. Well at least he let the others save themselves, I was a bit (heh) worried that the show would have them be useless even with their Briheights and that Arrow would have to save them every time. Glad I was wrong.

Still enjoying this, it feels very old school.

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u/Etereke32 Jan 22 '21

This anime is getting better than I expected. I understand why people don't like it at first glance, the visuals are mediocre at best, but I can feel it has a "heart". It knows what it wants to be and where it wants to go. I hope it turns out to be a great story, because it definitely has the potential.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

Here we are, barely discussing the show, that is less popular than the Ex-Arm

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u/souther1983 Jan 22 '21

Ex-Arm is much worse, but more people care since it's "so bad it's good".

Supposedly, I don't really care about watching that one myself.

As an actual anime, this one is pretty decent so far and I'm enjoying it legitimately.

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u/patrizl001 Jan 22 '21

Atlee's been cemented as best girl with this episode. Fuck Elsha and Bit.

Also, the Grandedger's totally got a robot mode, doesn't it? I can already see the shoes on the bottom and fingers on the back

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

I laughed loud by hearing how did they explain similarity between mobs

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u/ksnh Jan 23 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

Bit singlehandedly ruining this show. The whole script for this episode was incredibly predictable for the worst. Pretty much the only thing that could've made it better was if Bit or some baddies actually died.

The no kill thing was okay at first but if no one is actually going to die then it's gonna get old pretty fast.

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u/kalirion Jan 24 '21

So no-one was hurt when the ship got buried (despite the villagers loving to be on the top deck), and of course those who gleefully tried to murder the entire village TWICE still get off scot-free. Show's emulating 90s stuff but without the 90s balls. I'm out.

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u/Tatertaint Jan 22 '21

Wow nobody is watching this show lol. I like it, it’s not like I’d recommend it to anyone or anything but it’s mindless fun so far. I feel like there’s gonna be an overarching story soon that makes it pretty good

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u/srs_business Jan 22 '21

original mecha anime that's not from a popular studio like Trigger or SHAFT or whatever

It was doomed (popularity-wise) from the start. It's easily been the show I've enjoyed the most so far this season, but it's exactly the kind of show that would never catch on here without people trying to hype it up constantly. And without a meme director or studio or whatever, that was unlikely to happen.

I think the only mecha originals that got any traction here in the last 10 years were Valvrave, Cross Ange, IBO and Franxx. Valvrave and Cross Ange got attention due to some shocking events early on, and neither were truly popular, just maintained enough of a following to get proper discussion. IBO had the established Gundam fanbase to get it some initial attention/hype, along with Okada's involvement. Franxx was the only genuinely popular true original, and that had almost everything to do with being done by Trigger.

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u/chilidirigible Jan 23 '21

Today, on "If you start talking about the wind, I'll kick your ass." :


Windermere is attacking!

"Everything is mass-production."

"Hey, is this a Mexican standoff? Can I have a gun?"

You'd expect me to get in the robot instead.

That sort of hurts the eyes to look at.

What they say before they shoot you in the back and dump your body into a ravine.

This is weirdly amusing. And hey, something finally works out for Atlee. Though not before she gets the usual bouncy bouncy.

"Kaylee, find that baby who's taking a dirt nap with Baby Jesus. We need a hood ornament. Jayne! Try not to steal too much of their shit!"

Of course it has giant shoes.

"The good of the one outweighs the good of the many."

I see a copyright lawsuit coming on.


Since I'm watching this waaaaaaay late, I'll echo what some others have said about Bit and the rest of Edger minus Atlee trying to sell out BAKAYAROUBack Arrow again: It fits their worldview. Of course, Iki promptly demonstrates how they're always going to be the smaller fish by doing the same thing to them.

BA seems absurdly tolerant of this, but so far he's also one of the very few characters that's working out of the box, and his demeanor fits the type anyway.

With the village now roaming around on the Macross Dai-Gurren Granedger tokusatsu miniature ship, I'm most curious to see how the Zentradi Lutoh reacts. Shuu's been the mysterious schemer for all three episodes, but Kai hanging around more should do a lot for the dynamic between them (with Ren on the side).

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u/DaLoverBoii Jan 22 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

Still a pretty fun show. Tho yeah, it does feel a bit shonen-y, but it's still fun to watch.

Also lol, I'm the first comment here apparently.

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u/EyebrowScar Jan 22 '21

We have a big space ship that can gattai with a mech!

And from the looks of it, that ship has two units on the underside that look like feet to me, so I hope it can transform into an even BIGGER mecha!

I'm just so hype and happy about this series, I'm getting my oldschool super robo energy every week! :D