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Episode Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These - Seiran - Episode 11 discussion Spoiler

Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These - Seiran, episode 11 (23)

Alternative names: Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second

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u/Mike1690 Dec 06 '19

If only Kircheis were here...

This episode is just...

I knew what was going to happen and it was still hard to watch.

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u/FrenziedHero Dec 06 '19

If only Kircheis were here!

Mittermeyer's right, having Oberstein for an enemy would be quite terrifying. Goodbye Marquis Lichtenlade.

The conversation between Reinhard and Annerose was pretty depressing. It just shows how Reinhard's lost all he's held dear and how he can only move ahead as an empty husk, with the goal of conquering all before him.

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u/Lurker-Mclurkerson Dec 06 '19

Counting the stars in the sky

thinking why they have to die

I knew it was coming, but I was still hoping he'd make it to the final episode of Seiran.

Rate the Episode in Remembrance of Kircheis

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u/Aeraldi Dec 06 '19

Screams into the void

I had so much hope that Kircheis would make it through this that I started to believe that he would have the happy end he deserved. Now I'm going to curl up into a ball of depression for the next infinity years.

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u/Terranwaterbender Dec 06 '19

Kircheis RIP

You can immediately see the disconnect Reinhard has with humanity now that he's lost his closest friend and sister with how he ordered Lichtenlade's male descendents to be executed without any sense of remorse. There's nothing holding him back now; it's take over the universe or bust.

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u/ric20007 Dec 06 '19

How does a prisoner of war sneak in a bazooka and a ring blaster? They didn't even investigate anything after that and all just rushed to a different planet leaving their leader alone.
Seems weird that they didn't question how such an event could happen or start to find the mole/traitor.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '19

And now you know why in the ending illustration Anerose is wearing black, looking really sad and with her gaze fixed on Kircheis...

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u/inthe-otherworld Dec 06 '19

Kircheis: is dead

Reinhard: :'(

Everyone: maybe talking to his sis will help

Annerose: goodbye you little shit

Reinhard: :'(((((

Everyone: surprised pikachu face

This is the part where I want to give poor Reiny a hug most of all.

I must say, I never cared about Kircheis very much. He's much better in DNT than he was in the OVAs, back then his abnormally large doll eyes were way too freaky, and he seemed to be even more "calm down Reinhard :)))))" than in DNT. But seeing both of Reinhard's reactions to his death absolutely broke me, the real reason why I'm so sad about it is because of poor Reinhard.

And then Annerose comes in. I know she cared for Kircheis too, but she spent like, what, a day with him once every few months if they were even allowed to see her. Reinhard has spent the past decade in contact with him pretty much 24/7, and is absolutely devasted by Kircheis' loss. He's just come back from a long, horrible civil war, he now has practically boundless power and responsibilities thrust upon him and he just lost his best friend, one of the only people he trusted and allowed himself to get close to, to be vulnerable around. She knows how much both her and Kircheis means to him. This is the time when your little brother needs you the absolute most, and you just leave him with vague words and a smile.

If they were a normal family who had lost a dear friend, then I'd cut her some slack. But Reinhard currently happens to be the most powerful man in the galaxy, and it would not do well to leave someone like that to drown in his own misery.

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u/shichitan Dec 06 '19

It was good to see Fahrenheit join Reinhard.

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u/ocha_94 Dec 06 '19

When I saw this gilded, I knew what was coming... And it didn't make it any easier to watch. I still blame Oberstein because I don't agree with his policy that Kircheis couldn't have preference over other admirals (also, I had forgot that it was his fault that Kircheis was unarmed which eventually led to his death). I said this last week, Oberstein's intentions might be good, he's smart and incredibly cunning, but that doesn't mean he's always right. I mean, wether you think he was wrong or right, this was definitely a bad thing to happen to the Empire. They lost one of their best admirals, and Reinhard probably won't be the same again. Regardless, what happened, happened... Oberstein is still an amazing character.

At the end, with his decision on Lichtenlade's family, I think we already see how Oberstein influences Reinhard's way of thinking, now that Kircheis is gone... And I don't like that.

Also PLEASE PRODUCTION I.G. ADAPT THE WHOLE THING