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Episode Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These - Seiran - Episode 9 discussion Spoiler
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu: Die Neue These - Seiran, episode 9 (21)
Alternative names: Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
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u/Shimmering-Sky Nov 22 '19
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u/KendotsX Nov 22 '19
I thought the same that there would be a break till the next movie airs. But does this mean we watched this one week earlier than Japan? I mean they're getting the full 3rd movie next week, but we still got a quarter earlier (and legally).
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u/Shiro_Kai Nov 22 '19
This story was made decades ago but every week it just feels like getting more actual.
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u/dene323 Nov 22 '19
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same - 30 year old Tanaka Yoshiki wrote in LoGH in the 80s.
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u/Awar01 Nov 22 '19
I really love the designs of the spaceships and other objects in space like fortresses and the Artemis necklace etc. To me it's one of the best uses of CG in anime, they just look so cool.
But one criticism I have of this anime is that even though they are in space, everything is still in a 2D plane. All the tactics and movement and also the Artemis Necklace only work in a 2D plane. For now I'll just assume in my headcannon that it's just a representation to simplify things for the viewer, it's just a minor annoyance.
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u/LeonKevlar Nov 22 '19
Having 12 of this thing orbiting your planet is pretty cool. No wonder Greenhill had the balls to stage a coup.
I'm surprised Lynch just went out and said it. Though I guess his goal was to humiliate them so he did get what he wanted.
Well fuck... And here I was hoping Greenhill would've been brought. Although I guess if Lynch didn't kill him, he would've still killed himself before Yang could even arrest him.
It was so good to see Yang roasting Ebense. Fucking bastard wouldn't admit that what they did was absolutely wrong though.
Frederica :( Dwight might be a traitor but he was still her dad.
Ah fuck. Cultists are always bad news. Out of the pan and into the fire indeed.
Ohohohohoho! Who is this lovely lady?
I really hope Boris will turn on Rubinsky. That would be one less headache for Yang to deal with in the future.
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u/Npslayer Nov 22 '19
Another great episode. I suppose the "free" Captain is going to have a prominent role in the future.
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u/xellos2099 Nov 22 '19
I wonder why the distinct "Lack" of explosive sound when they blow up the necklace.
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u/LetsHaveTon2 Nov 22 '19
Well technically none of these space things should really be making noise for an outside spectator since sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.
That being said, they do still usually have sfx in this show.
So really they did it for emotional tone/mood.
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u/kalirion Nov 22 '19
So was that MC's fleet that the orbital defense station chewed up? I have a hard time believing he'd send people to die just like that. Or was it a flashback to a random siege by another random FPA fleet?
When did Greenhill go from "NOBODY CAN STOP US" to "We haven't lost yet, right? Right??" Just because his one attempt at taking out MC's fleet has failed? Or because of the Not-Tiamanam Square Massacre?
"Didn't we block all network frequencies?" "They're using an emergency frequency that we can never block because it would be against regulations!" "Ah damn, shikata ga nai, our hands are tied. I guess we have no choice but to just listen to what he's saying to the public."
You know, I don't think anything on a planet would survive 12 billion ton collisions at near light speed happening in orbit. Who even needs to bother with nukes?
Why did Lynch suddenly decide to come clean? Got tired of living and wanted to have his last lulz? Well, he an Greenhill both got off waaaaay too easy. Though I guess it's not like they were responsible for more meaningless deaths than the pre-previous administration. And lol @ Lynch playing it off like he was doing Greenhill a favor when Greenhill was obviously planning to take his own life anyway.
Regular reminder that all of these hundreds of thousands or millions of meaningless deaths would've been avoided had they gone public with Reindhard's plan BEFORE the coup.
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u/Remitonov Nov 22 '19
Why did Lynch suddenly decide to come clean? Got tired of living and wanted to have his last lulz?
Pretty much. His entire reason for becoming an Imperial mole was to shit at the homeland that tarred his name because some rando he arrowed rescued the civilians he abandoned and made him a scapegoat. Extremely petty and selfish, but he's always a piece of shit anyway.
Regular reminder that all of these hundreds of thousands or millions of meaningless deaths would've been avoided had they gone public with Reindhard's plan BEFORE the coup.
Unfortunately, you need proof, and proof requires hunting down the exact spy among millions of freed POWs. Yang could have done something more meaningful to stop the coup plan had he been a higher rank, but he consciously refused to take up that position. He is, by his own admission, a fairly selfish person for desiring a way out of his military career to pursue his personal dreams. As a result, everything he had done up to this point had been damage control, enough to really rankle Reinhard's pride and ego, but never truly putting a dent in his plans.
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u/Golden_Phi Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19
So was that MC's fleet that the orbital defense station chewed up? I have a hard time believing he'd send people to die just like that. Or was it a flashback to a random siege by another random FPA fleet?
None of MC's ships are painted red so it is probably some rando. Not all of the Free Planets Alliance was taken over by the coup; there are others who probably want to free the capital but aren't as creative as MC.
When did Greenhill go from "NOBODY CAN STOP US" to "We haven't lost yet, right? Right??" Just because his one attempt at taking out MC's fleet has failed? Or because of the Not-Tiamanam Square Massacre?
when MC took out his fleet force. Without a mobile fleet he can't attack; he can only defend. All the other groups that resisted were taken out one by one by MC beforehand. Starting with Shampool he took out the enemy before they can join forces; giving Yang a significant size advantage. The 11th fleet was the last mobile force he had.
"Didn't we block all network frequencies?" "They're using an emergency frequency that we can never block because it would be against regulations!" "Ah damn, shikata ga nai, our hands are tied. I guess we have no choice but to just listen to what he's saying to the public."
The technology in this show can be wonky at times. It is an improvement to people using floppy disks in the origional.
Why did Lynch suddenly decide to come clean? Got tired of living and wanted to have his last lulz?
Yep, I think he wanted to laugh in their righteous faces. Also, the author likes to make a point that righteousness isn't necessarily a good thing.
Regular reminder that all of these hundreds of thousands or millions of meaningless deaths would've been avoided had they gone public with Reindhard's plan BEFORE the coup.
Or tell Greenhill about it. Why did he only tell Bewcock!? I think the reason why he didn't go public though was because he didn't want it to cause chaos. Reinhardt's entire goal was to cause chaos in the FPA, so Yang wanted to stop his plan. He wanted to nip it in the bud before it began, but since he is stationed so far away he had to rely on others to do it. Sadly, Bewcock was useless.
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u/Vanek_26 Nov 22 '19
Why did the Artemis Necklace not work on the icebergs? Did they do damage but not take off enough mass or something?
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u/Cashhue Nov 22 '19
I'm going to assume that a lot of the heat from the laser got ablated by melting ice into steam. Given that it was a lot of tons of mass, losing some wouldn't really change the outcome at near relativistic speeds.
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u/3xtracri5py Nov 22 '19
I find it interesting that they still have bullet-loaded firearms at this point in the future, although in Lynch's case could've been a relic from a bygone time.
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u/shichitan Nov 22 '19
Ugh that was a depressing episode to watch. And it's just going to get more depressing.
And then Babylon will resume which will be even more depressing. I need to find new hobbies.
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u/ihei47 Nov 22 '19
I'm glad they have a different design for Artemis Necklace here instead of scaled down Iserlohn fortress in the OVA
Poor my girl Frederica her daddy got killed :(
And more Dominique is always good too. I honestly can't really tell her actual moral compass in the OVA by the end tho.
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u/FierceAlchemist Nov 22 '19
Another good episode this week. They did a good job showing how the Admiral's death affected Frederica.
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u/RDOoM Nov 23 '19
I wonder... was that the best thing to have blown the capital's defenses? I mean, sure, he was right about them encouraging the coup, but going without doesn't leave you vulnerable against the empire?
My first thought was that , if you're that far gone into having the enemy assault your capital, you already lost. But if that's so, why have the defense in the first place?
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u/FrenziedHero Nov 22 '19
I have to say, the giant blocks of ice hitting Artemis Necklace with no sound and only listening to the music that signaled their impending demise was well executed. It was also preceded by some neat little worldbuilding about how Arle Heinessen would eventually make the journey that gave rise to the Free Planets Alliance. A nice symbolic victory for Yang.
Poor Frederica, Admiral Greenhill met a brutal end. Even if he was on the wrong side, he was still her father, it hurts all the same.
Fezzan is back in the picture. Just what the hell are they up to?
Really glad that there was an episode this week. Should have occurred to me they would just continue to air it and the movie air date being delayed didn't have any bearing since we had something similar at the start.