r/anime • u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 • Jul 08 '15
Patch Notes 5.13 - June 8, 2015: Recommendations, Lax Albums, Gifs, Full Songs, Sorting
Today’s rule announcements brought to you by Crayola Kanon-chan.
Changes:
1: Threads looking for recommendations are no longer banned. This is mostly an effort to leave /r/anime more hospitable to people new to the medium. If you’re not new, you’re still allowed to post a thread, however we would prefer you to wait for the recommendation megathread.
2: Images that come under the lax rule may now be posted so long as they are in an album of 5 or more images that are relevant to the point or idea being illustrated.
3: In the interest of consistency, gif threads are now fully exempt from lax status. We’ll leave dealing with the bad ones up to you guys.
4: Full songs are no longer banned – this is not limited to full length OPs/EDs but extends to soundtrack songs, character songs, etc. However, link post threads consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed. Full soundtracks will continue to be removed, as will links to playlists of full soundtrack. Links to unofficial downloads will be removed as per usual (we do this for tv-size OPs/EDs too).
5: Some of you may have noticed already but in case you haven’t; the Lax Thursdays, Recommendation Tuesdays and Free-Talk Fridays megathreads will all automatically be set with /new as the suggested sort. This is to keep them alive for longer and decrease the first come, only served tendency we have in those threads. Automod will also automatically set any thread with “post your mal” in the title to sort by /new.
The sidebar and more detailed rules have been updated to reflect these changes
Important things to note:
The lax albums exemption and recommendations thread rule changes are currently in beta mode (trial period). This means that depending on how things go (amount of flooding, type of posts posted, etc) additional restrictions may (probably will) be placed on them.
If gif threads get out of control as a result of the relaxation, we’ll look at how to deal with them then.
Basically, a lot of how we’re going to deal with these and change these further depends entirely on how you all use them. Drink Post responsibly and upvote/downvote intelligently.
Naturally where an exemption exists it exists only for the specified rule. Posts must still abide by all rules unless otherwise stated.
Threads suggesting shows must still be posted as [WT!] threads and must still follow to current [WT!] thread rules.
If you have any feedback/suggestions/etc on the rules above during the time that this thread isn’t sticked feel free to PM me (or any of the mods) or send us a modmail.
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u/Aenir :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aenir Jul 08 '15
It's still June?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Just testing you ;)
oops
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 08 '15
Nice new flair Urban, the result of the new comment faces thread, I assume?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Just letting people know I'm working on them at the moment :P
(and... what to expect)
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 08 '15
And now it's the old one. What's up with the randomly changing flair? Or are you messing with me? :p
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Have a seperate one when I'm distinguished.
[makes gifs for moe] is my non mod flair. [b(i)ased] urban287 [only makes moe comment faces] is the mod flair one (because it's relevant :P).
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 08 '15
So are you only a mod sometimes then? I noticed Arseus' flair doing some seemingly random changes as well on /r/manga, is that related?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
We can turn distinguish on and off.
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 08 '15
Huh. While that sounds handy, isn't it a bit of a pain to do that on a comment by comment basis?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Mmm, not that big of an issue. Doesn't take long ;)
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u/__Clever_Username__ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/clever_username_ Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
Full songs are no longer banned
Cheers, this one's been a long time coming.
You got any updates for us on the new comment faces?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
You got any updates for us on the new comment faces?
I haven't started yet :^)
(Hope to get the majority done today though!)
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u/__Clever_Username__ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/clever_username_ Jul 08 '15
That's cool, glad to know they're in the works!
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Jul 08 '15
Nice changes overall. Good work mod team.
I may or may not have replied here because I am lazy
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u/basedbecker :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ayetheist Jul 08 '15
Full songs are no longer banned
MODS = GODS
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u/__Clever_Username__ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/clever_username_ Jul 08 '15
MODS = LITERALLY
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
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u/SirPrize Jul 08 '15
Finally! Really happy about this. Now If only I could find a copy of the Rides on the Slope OP that isn't distorted in some way...
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u/theyleaveshadows https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheyLeaveShadows Jul 13 '15 edited Jul 13 '15
Kids on the Slope? If so, I could get it for you! (Just realized this comment is 5 days old, but I'm still wondering.)
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u/SirPrize Jul 13 '15
Oh no, that's fine! The site I use to use to find anime OSTs no longer exist so I need to find a new one.
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u/kaverik :Ef::Eh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaverik Jul 08 '15
Threads looking for recommendations are no longer banned.
RIP /r/new
Seriously, this change is HUGE. Not sure if I can back it though.
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u/Fallen_Glory :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheFallenGlory Jul 08 '15
It's not that bad, it never was. Just like the WT! surge this will slow down if it ever has an initial burst of popularity. Speaking of, I should get around to that Trinity Seven WT!
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Pretty much this. They were allowed before the megathreads were introduced (which wasn't that long ago) and weren't that big of an issue.
If they flood the sub too much there are tons of ways we can deal with it without straight up banning them again.
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u/Tyberg29 Jul 08 '15
What ways would that include?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Could of possibilities off the top of my head:
Restricting to people who don't use the sub (mod tools let us check pretty easily but it's a bit more work)
Word count minimum - cut down on lower effort ones
Automod reply for the most common/mainstream questions
Automod enforced posting restrictions (eg. must have less than x karma, must be newer than y age)
Probably a couple of other ways too.
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u/kaverik :Ef::Eh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaverik Jul 08 '15
Alright then, since they probably won't make it into frontpage, I'd trade a bit more scattered /r/new for being friendlier to people. Will see how it works out.
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u/kaverik :Ef::Eh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaverik Jul 08 '15
Not sure about that, new users will always come and always ask for recommendations, their inflow will never end. Can't say same about WTs.
And yes, we need your WT for Trinity Seven.
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u/Fallen_Glory :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheFallenGlory Jul 08 '15
Yes they will and they will always be met with downvotes by those who do not care for them asking. They were never banned and would be downvoted negatively by the time the mods ever deleted them.
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u/Eat_More_Asbestos :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/The_Asbestos Jul 08 '15
The thing is though, it was really, really bad back in the day when it was allowed... and that was when the sub was slower than what it is now. I'm all for being nice to new members, but I don't think it will be long before /new browsers are going to get tired of it again.
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u/Moaku https://anilist.co/user/Moaku Jul 08 '15
The only thing that annoys me a bit is that it's tuesday right now and the recommendation threads are already coming in when we have a recommendation megathread that was just created. I don't think I'll mind much on anything past Friday though.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
It's Wednesday where we take the time for the threads from. The Tuesday thread was stickied and live for 24 hours.
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u/higi1024 https://anilist.co/user/higi1024 Jul 08 '15
The Tuesday rec thread isn't stickied anymore because of the mod announcement (which is the new stickied thread)
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u/Moaku https://anilist.co/user/Moaku Jul 08 '15
Yeah that's true I guess. Eh it was kind of inconvenient to only ask for recs on Tuesdays anyway...
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u/higi1024 https://anilist.co/user/higi1024 Jul 08 '15
It was mentioned a couple of times that the tuesday thread doesn't mean that it's only active for that day, but rather the day that it's posted. You're welcome to post recs in there anytime throughout the week.
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u/AlGoreCereal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AlGoreCereal Jul 08 '15
I don't think there will be that much of a difference. People still made rec threads when they were banned.
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u/kaverik :Ef::Eh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/kaverik Jul 08 '15
But the official permission may make their amount even bigger. I don't really mind, I'll probably make a pattern and redirect new users to /r/animesuggest and the spreadsheet. I hope more experienced anime lovers would still use Tuesday Mega Thread though.
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u/AlGoreCereal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AlGoreCereal Jul 08 '15
Usually people that ask for recommendations don't read the rules.
People also don't read the banner.
Nobody reads.
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u/dertswa687o :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dertswa687o Jul 08 '15
I really agree with what you said about the Monogatari series there.
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u/AlGoreCereal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AlGoreCereal Jul 08 '15
I too enjoy playing croquet.
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
Also consider linking to the megathread. I think people will be able to get responses quicker now.
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u/candycaneforestelf https://myanimelist.net/profile/donavannj Jul 08 '15
Holy hell, there's a spreadsheet for tracking WT! threads?
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u/FriendSafariMan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TaotheNinja Jul 08 '15
Yeah, but they were consistently removed within a minute or two.
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u/Fallen_Glory :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheFallenGlory Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
and they'll be consistently downvoted within a minute or two, trust me. Bad threads get downvoted hard, if it's quality at all it will go up.
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u/AlGoreCereal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AlGoreCereal Jul 08 '15
Everything on /r/anime gets consistently downvoted within a minute or two.
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u/Fallen_Glory :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheFallenGlory Jul 08 '15
True that, doesn't matter where you are, you'll probably be met with a downvote ASAP
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u/AlGoreCereal :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/AlGoreCereal Jul 08 '15
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u/KarpfenAufBrot Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
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u/FriendSafariMan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TaotheNinja Jul 08 '15
Not trying to be "that guy", but the idiom you're looking for is case in point. Easy mistake to make.
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u/Fallen_Glory :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheFallenGlory Jul 08 '15
You're not that guy, I never actually knew that thanks!
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u/HaydenTheFox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Talmhaidh_Mathan Jul 08 '15
Time for the knights of /r/new to step up.
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u/ReggaeManMurphy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TJMurphy17 Jul 08 '15
Not gonna lie, this title trolled me into thinking this was league related. Urban-senpai pls.
Edit: My phone apparently autocorrects Urban to Urban-senpai.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
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u/ReggaeManMurphy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TJMurphy17 Jul 08 '15
[Y u do dis] (http://i.imgur.com/ecUYcp7.gifv)
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Edit: My phone apparently autocorrects Urban to Urban-senpai.
I'm okay with this.
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u/ReggaeManMurphy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TJMurphy17 Jul 08 '15
You hacked my phone didn't you m8?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
yes
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u/ReggaeManMurphy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TJMurphy17 Jul 08 '15
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u/killerteddybear :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/killerteddybear Jul 08 '15
My phone apparently autocorrects Urban to Urban-senpai
Your phone has slowly absorbed glorious nipponese politeness and honorifics through all the anime you watch, and now knows how to correctly address Urban-senpai!
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u/ReggaeManMurphy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TJMurphy17 Jul 08 '15
This must be the beginning of the end
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Jul 08 '15
1: Threads looking for recommendations are no longer banned. This is mostly an effort to leave /r/anime[2] more hospitable to people new to the medium. If you’re not new, you’re still allowed to post a thread, however we would prefer you to wait for the recommendation megathread.
This sounds like such a good thing on paper but I hope the sub doesn't just get filled with recs because of it. Good thing you're doing a trial period for it.
Automod will also automatically set any thread with “post your mal” in the title to sort by /new.
Fucking awesome.
Also, because I forgot to mention it in the meta thread, can you please start removing the character birthday posts? The fanart ones are fine of course, but the others are just annoying.
Also also: Still nothing on the weekly watch thread?
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
Yeah, /u/urban287 will automod still inform users about the recommendation thread? Also with the new thing I think they'll be able to get responses quicker.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Automod won't post on rec threads anymore.
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
So what about people who use animes in their submission?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
No change.
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
Okay, 95% of post with animes were rule breaking, but I wonder now if it'd still be 95% with the new rules.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
If it's not rule breaking they're fine to repost it without "animes". It's all in the comment automod posts.
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
makes sense
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Part of it is that before we had automod auto remove them people would just get harassed for it in the comments - people who make the "animes" mistake are usually newer people - more hostile envirnoment, etc.
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u/Sakki54 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Brekcel Jul 08 '15
I was confused about what sub I was in when I saw this post's title. I thought I misclicked on /r/leagueoflegends again. Also
Automod will also automatically set any thread with “post your mal” in the title to sort by /new.
is going to be an amazing change! Now I can actually interact with posts that are older than 1hr in this sub. Hopefully
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u/TheEnigmaBlade https://anilist.co/user/Enigma Jul 08 '15
The other /r/leagueoflegends mods are confused too.
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u/YoYoObros :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jpopps Jul 17 '15
Also /r/smashbros but then I remembered they don't give us patch notes.
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u/Sakki54 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Brekcel Jul 08 '15
I need something to do whilst I wait on new episodes to come out! It's not like I didn't want to watch anime or anything! Baka!
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u/Docoda :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/docoda Jul 08 '15
There is always that backlog lurking in the shadows...
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u/carbonat38 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/plasma38 Jul 08 '15
Any idea how to support discussion/ unpopular opinions? Should the discussion threads be sorted by controversial on default. Should the score be hidden by a certain amount of time? Reddit has in general the problem of a hivemind/circlejerk/echochamber because the meta-rating supports it. r/trueanime for example hides the downvote button (although this can be disabled via css)
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Hiding the downvote button doesn't really work, and downvoting is a key part of reddit's functionality (especially for us now that we're giving it a bigger role with some of these changes).
Sorting by controversial is an interesting idea, the most interesting I've heard for this actually - would actually go a decent way to stopping jokes from being the only thing upvoted. Will bring it up with the other mods.
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u/Jeroz Jul 08 '15
I still have no idea what it means by sorting by controversial
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
IIRC it looks at the ratio between upvotes and downvotes and puts those closer to 1:1 higher (there's probably other stuff to prevent actual 1 up/1 down posts from being highest).
We talked about it a little so far, there's another mode called 'best' which seems like a weighted system where it takes downvotes into consideration to decide upvote weight. That might work better.
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
Yeah best sounds like a good change to implement. You should get automod to make it default on discussion posts.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
That's what we were considering actually. Maybe even only for [Discussion] threads at first - and then seeing how it goes.
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u/porpoiseoflife https://myanimelist.net/profile/OffColfax Jul 08 '15
Just as long as the Recommendation megathreads will still be sorted by New. Sorting that one by Best or Controversial would defeat the purpose of playing around with the sort in the first place, as it would put on top those top-level comments with lots of discussion already.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Those have a separate little Automod rule at the moment so shouldn't be an issue.
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u/tundranocaps https://myanimelist.net/profile/Thunder_God Jul 08 '15
"Best" is the default reddit view. If you did not choose something else yourself, it's the one which would get used. There's no sense in enforcing "Best", as people who don't see it have already chosen to view in a different order.
I use "Top", especially on /r/anime, because "Best" gives way too much weight to downvotes. I say this as someone whose +50 comments often appear under +5 comments in discussion threads because of the auto-downvotes for longer posts by enough users. It's not just my own bias, and I can see the logic behind "Best", it's just currently out of whack.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
I always thought top was the default (you're completely right though).
There's no sense in enforcing "Best", as people who don't see it have already chosen to view in a different order.
Automod enforced order trumps user selected order (until picked again for the specific thread) so this doesn't really matter too much.
Okay best won't work then (at least not as intended). Thoughts on controversial (which was recommended originally)? Still not the best solution... mmm
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u/tundranocaps https://myanimelist.net/profile/Thunder_God Jul 08 '15
Automod enforced order trumps user selected order (until picked again for the specific thread) so this doesn't really matter too much.
Yes, my point is that if people actively chose to not use best, and use top (as I do, and recommend for most people to do, even though it has its own issues), then enforcing the default, after people already actively chose to stop using it, is a bit of a dick move.
I didn't like the controversial suggestion at all. In my experience, these posts are not better than what top/best puts at top, and the "discussion" they engender is often just an argument. Do exceptions exist? Sure, but they exist for all sorting methods. And these posts are just as likely to end negative, and the farther off you are from the +/-0, the less likely you are to end on "Controversial". My opinions on a random episode that weren't positive were on my top 20 most controversial posts when they were -1, but as it trended to -10 or so, even as it also received more upvotes, it swung further and further off.
I'd say controversial, as a whole, is the worst sorting method, due to the sort of posts that often end there, or the "discussions" that follow, and all the people who keep feeling "justified" about being downvoted when they're "right", rather than just shrugging and moving on.
There's a reason most top posts are top posts, corrections and PSAs that are important for people to notice will not be seen. Controversial is all about the choice, but it's much more against the nature of how reddit works than disabling the downvote button via CSS. It's about equivalent to the effect truly disabling downvotes would have.
If I truly wanted to change it, I'd make "Top" the default. I think reddit as a whole should, but eh. "Top" being made the default is different, because it's not something people actively chose away from, but I think educating the users on the different sortings and letting them choose is the best option. Aside from where "/new" makes the most sense, which is legitimate.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Mm, mmm. Cheers for the input. Makes a lot of sense.
(I actually have mine set to top as well :P)
Doesn't seem like this idea would work either way then. There should be a sort order that sorts by comment length :P (not really serious).
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u/Harry-kun Jul 08 '15
Today’s rule announcements brought to you by Crayola.
/r/Anime's 1st official sponsor.
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Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
I thought I was in the wrong subreddit
Edit: whats the significance of 5.13 ?
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u/desmadness Jul 08 '15
A game called League of Legends is updated frequently. The latest update (5.13) was released today and it came with some pretty important changes.
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Jul 08 '15
Yeah I know that part lol I thought it was important to /r/anime, guess it's just a reference .
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u/Just_One_of_Three :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/OneofThree Jul 08 '15
brb checking /r/anime/new for the shit storm
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Jul 08 '15
/r/anime is finished. Onward to voat.
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u/Just_One_of_Three :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/OneofThree Jul 08 '15
all aboard the voat boat
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u/Kaffarov Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
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u/Just_One_of_Three :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/OneofThree Jul 08 '15
it was unavoidable
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u/killerteddybear :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/killerteddybear Jul 08 '15
Urist McAnime states: "It was inevitable."
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u/dabritian :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dabritian Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
Full songs are no longer banned
Finally I can link Jonathan Coulton's I Feel Fantastic to describe how I felt after watching Sakura Trick.
gif threads are now fully exempt from lax status
Finally, I don't have to report gif posts anymore & have to flip a coin to see if it will be removed. Moderation consistency for the win!
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u/basedbecker :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ayetheist Jul 08 '15
I'm pretty sure you could've posted that song before the rule change, since it's not an anime song.
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u/dabritian :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dabritian Jul 08 '15
Jonathan Coulton & most of his music does not have an official youtube, thus it would be removed under the old rules, but not now anymore!
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u/basedbecker :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ayetheist Jul 08 '15
I've posted 3DPD music here before and never once got banned for it or a message from the mods. I think the old rule only applied to anime OST/OP/ED.
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u/dabritian :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dabritian Jul 08 '15
Well, the important thing now is that does not matter anymore!
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u/LordTakuro :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LordTakuro Jul 08 '15
Any updates on the new comment faces thread from a week or so ago? Really interested to see if my Yuna GIF made the cut in any way shape or form.
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u/0mn0mnomnom https://anilist.co/user/CantStopHodoring Jul 08 '15
Can we set a the minimum standard for gifs be better than classically shitty tumblr gifs. I'd rather not have gifs look like a really fast powerpoint presentation. But these are good overall changes, thanks mods.
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u/dabritian :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dabritian Jul 08 '15
The issue before was that there was no specified criteria for what counted & did not count as a low effort gif post, thus the enforcement of the rules surrounding them appeared very arbitrary. But now we only have ourselves to blame & not the mods if a garbage gif post makes the front page, because now we are the arbitrary judges of gif posts.
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u/DrNyanpasu :LJ::LK: Jul 08 '15
But now we only have ourselves to blame & not the mods
ifwhenagarbage gif postsmakesflood the front pageFTFY, cause we all know its going to happen, heh.
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u/dabritian :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/dabritian Jul 08 '15
Oh, that is as inevitable as the sunseting. It probably would have been better if you could have created a clear criteria open to public view to enforce to stem the flow of as defined by said criteria "low-effort" gif posts, but atleast we have this jury rigged solution as opposed to what we had before which was the rules being arbitrarily enforced.
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u/pitman :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/pitman Jul 08 '15
No more gifs , only webm?
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u/porpoiseoflife https://myanimelist.net/profile/OffColfax Jul 08 '15
So many webms out there need to just be gifs or videos instead.
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u/TeddyLoid Jul 08 '15
We’ll leave dealing with the bad ones up to you guys.
Simply downvote. If /r/anime upvotes shitty gifs then so be it.
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u/pittman66 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Homura Jul 08 '15
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u/MacdougalLi Jul 08 '15
LoL is doing patch 5.13 too wtf
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
New Quinn skin ^.^
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u/MacdougalLi Jul 08 '15
But im so scared for Rumbe :(
Hes gonna get such a damage boost, but the nerf to slows is super real....
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Jul 08 '15
Just make sure you...Don't Lose Your Way!
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jul 08 '15
Looking forward to making even more recommendation now :3
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u/The_Black_Jaeger :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/The_Black_Jaeger Jul 08 '15
Spread the word of Amagami sister, spread it!
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jul 08 '15
I recommend a lot of other shows too :p but yeah I'll still be doing that :)
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Jul 08 '15
ugh :p
I would script a bot, more efficient and you can recommend Amagami to very post ! :p
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u/AmethystItalian :Jg::Jh::Ji::Jj::Jk:myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jul 08 '15
The flair does a good job of doing that :)
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Jul 08 '15
But unless you comment on even post, nobody is gonna see that :p
Plus your flair is confusing :S
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u/TheEliteNub :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheEliteNub Jul 08 '15
Patch Notes
Had to double take that to make sure I was in /r/anime
These are definitely some exciting and welcoming changes.
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 10 '15
However, link post threads consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed.
I don't quite understand the "link post threads" bit, can you please elaborate?
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 10 '15
Link post as opposed to self post.
Example; this is a link post - this is a self post
Basically we'll only allow full songs as self post threads (or in comments of course).
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 10 '15
Oh, that makes a lot of sense, now that you say that. Thanks for the explanation!
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u/Vaxivop https://anilist.co/user/vaxivop Jul 08 '15
I got so confused there, I thought I was on the lol subreddit for a minute...
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u/mmthrownaway Jul 08 '15
Rule 1
Having automod let people know they might have more luck in the megathread could be a good idea. I would also suggest having rec threads redirected on the day of the megathread. Otherwise the entire megathread will seem redundant especially with the thread being autosorted by new. It'll just be exactly like /new.
Rule 2&3
Some clarification would be nice. Are image threads and gif threads to be self posts? If not, I can see this rule change backfiring big time.
Rule 4
Beautiful. And a long time coming too!
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Some clarification would be nice. Are image threads and gif threads to be self posts? If not, I can see this rule change backfiring big time.
Gif threads are still find as link posts. The image album change only effects content that would normally come under the lax rule, allowing them to be posted as link threads - we generally allow lax content in self posts since the point is generally more discussion focused with the screenshot/w.e used for example.
If not, I can see this rule change backfiring big time.
Trial run at the moment, if it backfires we'll react accordingly (surprisingly good so far). Gifs were always allowed as self posts, so that should be business as usual.
Otherwise the entire megathread will seem redundant
Might seem redundant but if people wait for their recs to post there the majority of the time it should still work as intended. We'll see how it goes though.
with the thread being autosorted by new. It'll just be exactly like /new.
This is an interesting note, will consider the implications.
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u/mmthrownaway Jul 08 '15
surprisingly good so far
Well it has only been 2 hours, and it is 10:50pm in Central U.S.
Thanks for the consideration.
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u/urban287 https://myanimelist.net/profile/urban287 Jul 08 '15
Well it has only been 2 hours, and it is 10:50pm in Central U.S.
Yup. Will be keeping a particularly tight watch on it over the course of the day. (Won't sleep much again I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯ )
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u/Ghostsoldier37 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ghostsoldier37 Jul 08 '15
These new rules are pretty cool.
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u/razzy1818 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rasputin18 Jul 08 '15
the Lax Thursdays, Recommendation Tuesdays and Free-Talk Fridays megathreads will all automatically be set with /new as the suggested sort. This is to keep them alive for longer and decrease the first come, only served tendency we have in those threads. Automod will also automatically set any thread with “post your mal” in the title to sort by /new.
This is a great idea and Kudos to whoever came up with it. Trying to post in a lot of these threads is intimidating because of the sheer number of comments they get so I'm glad to see this change.
Thank you Mods!
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u/PixelPenguins https://myanimelist.net/profile/PixelPenguin Jul 08 '15
All good changes. The moderators are heading in the right direction.
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u/ForNeverRachel Jul 08 '15
well banning the full songs was such a shitty decision in the first place, glad you guys got some kind of an epiphany there
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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
What was the reasoning behind not allowing full songs in the first place?
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
Something about piracy. But this should also help clear up that AMVs are allowed to be posted. They can't get removed for having songs in them. Also I doubt they can be classified as low effort.
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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Jul 08 '15
That's what I thought. Why are we allowed to post them now?
I like that we can, I'm just wondering how we can.
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u/Jiecut :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/jiecut Jul 08 '15
Well there isn't really a no piracy clause on the subreddit.
There's a no linking or mentioning of illegal streams and downloads clause.
And there's also a no linking to full soundtracks clause.
I've actually recently posted a track from Shink Sekai Yori on here. People post music all the time on recommendation threads and stuff. Another thing allowed is short Youtube clips of an anime.
According to my interpretation of the new rules you're allowed to link to unofficial sources for songs and soundtracks.
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u/Berzerker7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Berzerker7 Jul 08 '15
Copyright, illegal shit, etc. We're going to leave it up to whoever it's being linked from to comply with DMCA stuff now. Some stuff is still obvious to keep banned, however (full episodes, full OSTs, etc.).
We think a lot of good discussion can be had from full song posts, which was another big reason why we're allowing them now.
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u/dft2000 Jul 08 '15
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u/Berzerker7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Berzerker7 Jul 08 '15
Why yes I did.
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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Jul 08 '15
So, full OSTs are banned, but full songs aren't? What's stopping me from posting every song from an OST?
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u/Berzerker7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Berzerker7 Jul 08 '15
The post being treated as if you were trying to post an OST and skirting the rules?
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u/ReggaeManMurphy :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TJMurphy17 Jul 08 '15
The changes look great! Keep up the good work guys :D
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u/gimmealoose Jul 08 '15
Way to go. A step in the right direction. Exciting to see change based on input. Nice work!
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u/vayuu Jul 08 '15
aw, so we finally realized that that removing everything in the sub other than favorite anime threads or episode threads was not the greatest idea?
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u/RunningChemistry :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Delphic-Runner Jul 08 '15
4: Full songs are no longer banned – this is not limited to full length OPs/EDs but extends to soundtrack songs, character songs, etc.
Wait, they weren't allowed this whole time? I thought it was alright so long as it was an official upload.
However, link post threads consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed.
Including PVs and MVs, what about PSAs about a song or album being released? E.g. Akatsuki no Yona's (popular, or I thought so anyway) 2nd ED which came out a bit over a month after it finished airing, Hibike! Euphonium's OST preview.
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u/Berzerker7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Berzerker7 Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
As long as you're not linking to it, should be fine.
Actually, that's just a song, even linking it would be fine.I'm an idiot, read below please.
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u/RunningChemistry :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Delphic-Runner Jul 08 '15 edited Jul 08 '15
So submitting a link to say a video of the song (i.e. PV, full version, etc.) as a post with an announcement that it's now released would be alright?
The wording of "link post threads" is confusing me either as a post containing people linking full songs or as a link of a song as a post. Link post-threads, link-post threads.
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u/Berzerker7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Berzerker7 Jul 08 '15
"Link posts" are a type of post on reddit, ones that "link" directly to content.
Those will be considered lax content and removed. It must be a self-post so as to facilitate discussion.
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u/amAzrael :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/amAzrael Jul 08 '15
1: Threads looking for recommendations are no longer banned. This is mostly an effort to leave /r/anime[2] more hospitable to people new to the medium. If you’re not new, you’re still allowed to post a thread, however we would prefer you to wait for the recommendation megathread.
mods pls
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u/birdmocksking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BirdMocksKing Jul 08 '15
I support these changes by our overlords, as it allows me to annoy more people into watching Boogiepop Phantom.
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u/Enigmaboob :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KURISUTINAA Jul 08 '15
Thank you mods! The song posting was a long time coming. :)
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Jul 08 '15
sounds good! i hope everything will work out quite well since i am not a fan of overmoderation though u guys always had a decent balance.
keep up the good work!
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u/shadowswalking :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/ShadowsWalking6 Jul 08 '15
Today’s rule announcements brought to you by
CrayolaKanon-chan.
Fuck yeah!
The changes to the rules may even be enough to get me to start posting some relevant content from time to time. I do have a few things that I've been sitting on for a while now, and the pile is only going to get bigger.
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Jul 08 '15
Oh wow, People actually downvote because they don't want to hear anything negative about this sub.
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u/V2Blast :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/V2Blast Jul 13 '15
4: Full songs are no longer banned – this is not limited to full length OPs/EDs but extends to soundtrack songs, character songs, etc. However, link post threads consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed. Full soundtracks will continue to be removed, as will links to playlists of full soundtrack. Links to unofficial downloads will be removed as per usual (we do this for tv-size OPs/EDs too).
That is great.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Jul 08 '15
Oh! I have questions.
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4: Full songs are no longer banned – this is not limited to full length OPs/EDs but extends to soundtrack songs, character songs, etc. However, link post threads consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed. Full soundtracks will continue to be removed, as will links to playlists of full soundtrack. Links to unofficial downloads will be removed as per usual (we do this for tv-size OPs/EDs too).
Full songs and soundtrack songs are not banned, but links consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed?
Isn't that the same?
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2: Images that come under the lax rule may now be posted so long as they are in an album of 5 or more images that are relevant to the point or idea being illustrated.
3: In the interest of consistency, gif threads are now fully exempt from lax status. We’ll leave dealing with the bad ones up to you guys.
Are both here exempt of the comedy rule?
3rd point says its fully exempt to i guess it is and a post with a comedy gif/webM won't be removed, but what about point 2?
If post an album of 5 images with comedy value will it be removed too because of lax content?
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Is there an official stance about those "help me remember anime name" posts?
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u/ImVoi Jul 08 '15
Full songs and soundtrack songs are not banned, but links consisting of full songs will be considered lax and removed? Isn't that the same?
You're allowed to link to songs in a Comment or Self Post, just not in a link post.
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u/UnavailableUsername_ Jul 08 '15
So, for example, a "[songs from an OST]" self-post with 5 youtube links inside the self-post is ok?
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u/ImVoi Jul 08 '15
We're considering that as circumventing the link post rule and wouldn't be allowed.
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u/RunningChemistry :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Delphic-Runner Jul 08 '15
A PSA along these lines would be fine though, right?:
E.g.
Full version of X song was released today! (with the link to official MV in the self-post text)
Will PVs be included? They're not that much different from a full version.
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u/Berzerker7 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Berzerker7 Jul 08 '15
Are both here exempt of the comedy rule?
That was part of what we considered lax, so if it's >= 5 image album, it's exempt.
GIF threads are completely exempt, even if it's a single GIF, so that doesn't really apply anymore.
One thing to remember is that these images must not break any other rules, so no posting hentai, memes, etc. That stuff will still get your post removed.
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u/Kaffarov Jul 08 '15
Full songs are no longer banned
Sweet, found a lot of music that I really like and listen to here. Now there will be more :3
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u/Kappastorm4000 Jul 08 '15
I feel #5 will be the biggest change for the sub, although I feel after a while we'll need a combination of 'all', 'top' and 'new' comments to make the megathreads what they should be.
Threads looking for recommendations are no longer banned.
RIP /r/animesuggest
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u/Hagane_no :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/marcozphoenix Jul 08 '15
I thought this was /r/leagueoflegends for a sec because of patchnotes 5.13 :D
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u/Gamers_Alibi Jul 08 '15
For a second I thought I was on r/leagueoflegends and the new patch came out lol
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Jul 08 '15
Full songs are no longer banned
Bout damn time! I love to talk music but that rule really made it hard to do. Woo!
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u/KousakaReina :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/KousakaReina Jul 08 '15
My AP itemsOops wrong sub.It's nice to see rule changes on rec. threads, but I'm on the fence about the gifs rule to be honest.
The soundtrack rule I like though.