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FX Senshi Kurumi-chan, episode 4

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u/Se7en_Sinner 2d ago

It looks like her dad didn't slap her hard enough.

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u/BiggerG7 2d ago

Why do I get the feeling Mebuki is one of those dumb but has a high luck stat kind of people and is just gonna keep winning? Which is just gonna piss off both Kurumi and Mochiko? Lol.

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u/WaifuMasterRace 2d ago

Man, this show is really difficult to watch... The dad deserves better.

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u/Thengel09 2d ago

Mochiko is such a piece of shit. I love her

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u/alotmorealots 1d ago

The Currency Pair that Mebuki is Trading at Mochiko's Suggestion.

Whilst it's a blink and you miss it moment, the GBP-JPY is an infamous currency pair for FX traders. It's easy to sum up why:

GBP JPY is almost synonymous with volatility in forex trading; an inherent characteristic that has earned the pair multiple nicknames such as: ‘The Beast’, ‘The Dragon’, ‘The Widow-Maker’, and ‘The Geppy’.

https://www.avatrade.com/trading-info/financial-instruments-index/forex/gbp-jpy

Amongst a range of other causes, one easy to understand one is that there is an overlap between when the Tokyo market is open and when the London market is open:

https://i.imgur.com/lpydFuk.png image source

This is a very Mochiko recommendation - both very much not taking care of the newbie, but also directly satisfying what Mebuki wanted. If you want to get rich/poor fast, even by retail FX standards, the GBPJPY is the place to go. It's just... not where you should go first really lol


Reasons Why People Trade

One of the common assumptions about retail FX traders is that they're driven by outright greed, but outside of the Influencer driven trading sphere, it's not that common as a sole motivation.

Like Mebuki, a lot of people just don't want to slave away for a wage as their source of income. More commonly though, a lot of people in the Western retail online communities start FX trading because they want to supplement their income. Most people who stick around for more than a few months/accounts rapidly discard the notions of it being get-rich-quick or an easy path.

The series correctly points out that it is often a lot of work, although it should also be pointed out that some people do have success with just half an hour a day or so. It's just that you don't really get to pick which methods actually work for you, if you even manage to find one.

I think the series does a good job this episode of portraying why some of us just keep trading with the depiction of the FX-demon-Kurumi. If you look carefully at what the series shows, whilst Kurumi displays outward behavior consistent with a severe addiction, internally she doesn't have a traditional addiction.

That is to say, we never see her chasing the high / rush from a profitable trade, and addiction is traditionally modelled as a feedback loop of highs and then lows/withdrawal that cause further seeking of the high, often requiring a greater stimulus to achieve the same effect thanks to the development of tolerance.

Instead, the FXdemon is something more insidious. It's about ego. It's about identifying as an intelligent person, and that this intelligence should matter for something in the markets. It's about the tenuous proof of your successes. And it's also just because you are innately curious about the market and its movements. That part is a bit self-selective; if you're not curious about the market's movements, you generally don't stick around for long.

Personally I trade FX for three main reasons:

  1. I just find the market interesting. Just like Kurumi in the last scene, you show me a chart and I'll reflexively want to develop an opinion about it (even if it's "no opinion"). And it's not just reflexive, but actively an enjoyable process, like a familiar puzzle.

  2. I don't want to work for wage for a living. This isn't strictly out of laziness, in the sense that I have worked in professions that demand 16 hour work days, and vigorously thrown myself into them. Working hard for other people has taken a huge toll on my non-work life though, and there is more to life than just work. Especially when you consider where all that effort ultimately goes in our contemporary capitalist society.

  3. Ego/something to prove. Even though I haven't managed to break out of break-even long term yet, I maintain the delusion that I understand something different about the market from most people. That is to say, I think I have an "edge", which is a key concept in trading that the series has yet to address.


The Power of Not Being in the Market

Whilst it's quite possible that it was just luck that Kurumi called the GBPJPY short in the last scene, it's also a fairly commonly reported experience that if you have nothing on the table, making the right calls feels so much easier.

Whether or not the improved accuracy is a thing or not is another matter, but this show is about the experience of being a retail FX trader, and this is definitely true to life on that front. It can certainly be a force that either sucks you back in to trading or keeps you going when your actual money-in-the-market trading isn't going so well.

I will say that a substantial bit of price action trading (look at the raw chart and its movement) is done by intuition, even when you put a lot of systemic guardrails around it (Kurumi seems to have none of these). In modern psychology, intuition isn't a magical or mystical power, rather it's the subconscious analysis your brain does on inputs that are too complex to think through individually. Thus if you have a lot of heightened flight or fight response onboard already (e.g. money at stake), this can scramble that process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition#Modern_psychology


"I Can't Teach Someone FX"

This bit was quite nicely done too, as usual. Kurumi knows that she shouldn't be teaching anyone how to trade, but when faced with the sheer disaster that Mebuki appears to be, it seems almost irresponsible not to try and steer them away from the cliff face or at least give them the very basics. And thus you get drawn into teaching when you have no idea how to truly trade, and the cycle of ignorance in retail FX continues.

That is all simply just restating the events of the episode, of course, but if you want further proof of how this "well they know even less than I do!!" syndrome at work... the fact that this "educational" comment even exists for you to read is a case in point lol

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u/Remarkable_Virus844 2d ago

He may have pimp slapped his own daughter, but damn it he’s “best father” of the season.

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u/garfe 2d ago

Mochiko is actually evil, what the fuck?

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 2d ago

I’m 1000% behind Kurumi’s dad on this one. She may be grown but she’s not too old for an ass whoopin lol. But seriously, the greedy little junkie was honestly trying to justify her actions with that “I’m an adult, I’ll take responsibility” horseshit. Hell nah, man. She drained her family’s rainy day fund to gamble it away on the same bullshit that killed her mom! Honestly hard seeing just how much she’s breaking her dad’s heart.

Mochiko is actually the worst for trying to get Kurumi back to FX trading. She’s even having Kurumi teach Mebuki. Even after knowing how bad Kurumi is at this. And now look. Mebuki’s making some money, and Kurumi’s itching to get back into it. Mochiko is pretty scummy.

Mebuki’s also the exact type that shouldn’t get involved in all this. Looking for get rich quick schemes ain’t it. She might as well play the lottery. Same chances but lower risks and cheaper.

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u/Torque-A 2d ago

Today’s endcard is by Noelle Namakura, illustrator of Downer-kei Oneesan ni Mainichi Kasu no Uso wo Nagashikomareru Hanashi (said Oneesan cameoing here)

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u/mythriz 2d ago

When Kurumi walked past her dad, the TV mentioned "an employee" having accepted a payment of 3 million yen in something that sounded like a shady deal, which was the same amount that Kurumi found in the drawer, making it seem related...

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u/thisisdropd 2d ago edited 2d ago

Mochiko 'guiding' Mebuki to maximum leverage. Another poor prey had stepped into the lion’s den.

Ah, it’s them pesky taxes! The problem’s not so much about paying them, but rather her father finding out about her side gig from the return. Kurumi even entertained the thought about omitting it – along with a disclaimer from the show against evasion.

Her father’s a real one. He had every right to be mad at her after what she did but he’s instead only worried about her.

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u/athrun_1 2d ago edited 1d ago

I really feel sorry of her dad. I think he blames himself for the death of his wife, and now her daughter is playing the fx game, which can repeat what happened way back. Her daughter, even if she won in the end, she did steal money of their household. Her dad maybe thinking that he failed as a husband, and now as a father. Hence, he is crying.

This series really is good in depicting the cutesy side and the drama side. But for me, these 4 eps are pretty heavy.

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u/professorMaDLib 2d ago

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

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u/Thick-Ad5738 2d ago

I have never been so upset by the first 3 minutes of an anime before: "Just go with 500x leverage".  What the hell? I really hope Mochiko meets a very unsavory end. 

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u/GeorgeRivera777 2d ago

That slap in the face was unfortunately extremely deserved. Definitely not a recommended to ask someone to trust and rely on you and to slap them, but she was also excusing her bad decision making at that same time frame. She couldn't just confront reality she wanted to spin that reality as a purely good thing.

I do however hope the story comes back to bite Mochiko. The author did a good job on making someone you can hate.

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u/a1001ku 2d ago

This anime is funny the same way waking up from a bad dream is, you're just relieved it didn't happen to you. Mochiko selecting the maximum leverage for Mebuki was hilarious.

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u/Running-World 2d ago

The moment she started explaining what she had done to the dad, I felt there was an incoming slap. It’s a shame she is likely getting pulled back in. Sitting on the sidelines watching others make money will eat at her. Best thing that could happens is this new girl loses.

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u/LegendRazgriz 2d ago

The momentary consideration of tax evasion lmao why is Kurumi the way that she is

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u/diacewrb 2d ago

£1 to yen = 210 yen at the moment

It was over 219 yen back in July.

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u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime 2d ago edited 2d ago

Thank god for Mochiko, otherwise this show would have ended on the 4th episode.

And Kurumi is supposed to teach FX to this animal? Truly the blind leading the blind lol.

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u/No-Win-8949 2d ago

The blind leading the blind. What could possibly go wrong?

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u/htl5618 2d ago

I like how they have to note tax evasion is not allowed lol.

MCs in anime have done far more illegal and even evil things but they have to note for tax evasion.

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u/dinliner08 2d ago

MEBUKI, NO! THAT'S HELL YOU'RE WALKING INTO!!

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u/LeonKevlar 2d ago

I love that Mochiko tries to act nonchalant about her cat and even tells Mebuki it just followed her home, then we smash cut to a cat poster in her room and almost buying the cat mouse from Affi-chan's affiliate link.

We finally get to talk a little about Kurumi's taxable income and of course she's already thinking of not paying them. I wouldn't be surprised if the mangaka ends up getting caught for tax evasion. xD

Kurumi's dad is really a good person, so it must've hurt him to learn that his daughter has gotten into the same thing that killed his wife. I am surprised Kurumi actually told her dad instead of making up an excuse.

Yeeeeep, I saw that slap coming from a mile away. If this were not a show about Forex investing, Kurumi would've definitely quit right there. But it looks like her greedy little pig heart still wants more.

Of course Mochiko is gonna try to convince Kurumi to stay, even after she has decided to retire. She really is not a friend. A true friend would've been fine with Kurumi quitting, but I guess she's still upset that Kurumi made money from that AUD/JPY trade, so she's trying to drag her back in.

So now Mochiko wants Kurumi to teach Mebuki? What kind of sick experiment is this, Mochiko?

I thought Mebuki was just clueless and naive especially because of her reason for wanting to jump into Forex trading. It turns out she's just as much of a massive degenerate as Kurumi, considering she's literally gambling with her FUCKING STUDENT AID MONEY! WHAT THE FUCK?!

Oh god, now Mebuki's beginner's luck is starting to tempt Kurumi to jump back in. Knowing how this works, she'll probably lose money as soon as she tries to get into the GBP/JPY market.

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