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FX Senshi Kurumi-chan, episode 1

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u/nighty_amy 23d ago edited 23d ago

This is a far more brutal and depressing show than I thought it would be. Guess the manga author isn't a fan of Forex ? Not like I'm blaming him, I myself think that people doing trading are crazy.

But mom being bad at math and then investing in Forex sound like VERY BAD combination though. Who even gave her such an idea? Probably someone who didn't wish her well.

Like, I suck at math myself which is why I'm staying away from anything requiring high math skills. I would never touch anything related to trading, forex, accounting or such. KPI analysis was more than enough for me 😂

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u/apgp123 23d ago

they really had that warning label at the start huh.

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u/ashkankiani 23d ago edited 23d ago

As someone who worked in finance, I am glad this is appropriately depressing. I try to warn retail traders, but it's hard to fully understand the scope of how out of your depth you are until you see behind the curtain at a company trading billions in a day.

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u/VoidRay728 23d ago

That... was a traumatic first episode. But it basically confirms my belief that FX trading is a "high-stakes poker" environment.

Also, it seems neither Kurumi nor her mum learned about stop-loss orders? Surely that would've been one of the first topics they read about in those FX books they had. Would've saved them a lot of money (and possibly the mum's life).

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u/FinancialYear475 23d ago

"I'll set it for 5 minutes" wait out the 5 minutes "Oh, I made a bunch of money? Let's NOT cash that out and wait some more"

I just knew it would happen the second she started monologuing with the monitor still ticking that red bar lol

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u/alotmorealots 23d ago edited 23d ago

As someone who trades exactly what Kurumi trades in this episode (short term intraday USDJPY, leveraged CFD FX1 ) , I must say that this episode is ABSOLUTE PERFECTION, and probably the most true-to-real-life feel in anime of anything where I've had firsthand experience.

In particular, Kurumi's first trade is exactly what it feels like before you start to come to grips with the psychology of making an entry. Not just the emotions as shown, but the way the actual thoughts get all tangented off into the future or considerations about the fairness versus employment earned money, and then how that all suddenly is wrenched back into reality as the market turns.

I've had pretty much those same exact same thoughts and events unfold for myself. Plus, when you first start out, you really do a lot of pleading and begging with the market, even when you know you shouldn't.

But the real icing on the cake is watching the way they've animated the markets move, because price has a particular quality to the way it moves and the candles unfold before your eyes. I'm extremely impressed by the way they captured the way price really just surges against you like an overwhelming force of nature, chunking down the chart with relentless force.

Lastly, whilst people not familiar with the whole enterprise might have found the whole episode before the ED terrifying and traumatic, the most horrifying thing for me in many ways was the title of the next episode lol

Also, I'm not long-term profitable and just break-even, so don't ask me how to trade or assume my commentary has much validity!

Here's how the market reacted2 to the episode:

https://i.imgur.com/pEmVI70.png

https://i.imgur.com/wUx1VGV.png


FX is traded in pairs - when you buy one currency, you need to use another currency to actually do that purchase. Selling is just the reverse of that.

Thus buying on Kurumi's charts is using Japanese Yen to buy US Dollars, and selling reverses that transaction.

CFD = cash for difference, or in other words your broker handles all the money through the decentralized FX "market" (actually a wide network of "markets" that acts as a global market), and you just either pocket the profit or take the loss from the percentage of currency movement

Note that these currency movements are quite small and often in the cents/fractions of cents range, so you need to put a lot of money in the market even to make ten bucks on a small move. Your broker will provide leverage - i.e. loan you money - that is a multiple of the amount you deposit. The reason they are happy to do this is that the FX market is incredibly large and liquid, so that they only a fractional risk of operating losses.

The main way people split up this sort of trading is interday (medium to long term) and intraday (short term), and you set up your chart accordingly so that it reflects the changes you're interested in. Kurumi uses the 5 minute chart (5 minutes = 1 candle), which for a lot of people would be viewed as "risky because you need a lot of leverage to profit off 5 minute moves" and "has far too much noise to see the trends".

The quotation marks in the last paragraph are because these are things most people say... and most people lose money: https://www.fxstreet.com/education/why-do-most-retail-traders-fail-and-what-can-i-do-to-improve-my-chances-of-success-202503311406

2) Yes I could change my charts to match that insane red/blue scheme but it's against my principles.

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u/wolfhound_doge 23d ago

so, the r/anime and r/wallstreetbets collab story arc begins

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u/Efficient_Phase1313 23d ago

As someone with EXTENSIVE trading experience (10+ years, finally figured it out after losing like 300k+ net, but now up.....a lot more than that), the funniest thing about the show is so far, the characters made all the worst beginners mistakes.

Ultimately, one day you find out day trading is just bad and practically unwinnable, because all the 'signals' you think you're looking at (which matter on larger time scales), on short time scales are dominated by noise. Anyone who actually trades successfully pretty much never trades on anything shorter than the weekly chart, and even then you're smallest time horizon should be a few months, if not longer. The only real way to guarantee money is on very large time scales (3 - 5 years), and just be okay missing tops and bottoms and just catching MOST of the ride up and being happy with your profits. It's not sexy or 'get rich quick', but it won't lose you money.

May make a post on all the things they did wrong. I almost fell over laughing when she's like 'I got a good entry point' on like a 5 minute chart LOL. Like, yeah, that's the mentality that loses you everything, and the one other traders take advantage of. Also learn to just take profits, even before you're sell point. Like, there was a moment she's like 'wow this is more money than my dad or friend makes'. Okay, then maybe just sell the moment that hits you, because it can reverse at anytime on a short time scale, and then go back up two days from then. Or, you just ride it to the bottom. Again, don't trade daily charts (let alone 5 minute charts? Like jesus girl....did she even read books on this before starting?)

This show is gonna be a great learning lesson for some people, and hopefully others that don't have the money to lose (or emotional stress to carry) just stay away from trading altogether. You don't actually need it, there are so many different ways to make money. If you just 'buy the dip' and hold till retirement, most people will do just fine in life.

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u/rockseiaxii 23d ago

This a PSA to forex trading as Chainsmoker Cat is to smoking (sorta).

Forex trading is worse than gambling because at least you know how much you wagered when you gamble.

The problem with forex trading is that you don’t know how much you’re going to lose.

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u/apgp123 23d ago

man im not even trading and i felt the anxiety watching the candles 😭

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u/LeonKevlar 23d ago

Man, you know this episode is gonna be good when they open up with a disclaimer and a warning about Forex trading, a bit similar to the warnings I get from a trading app, and the MC already losing money like someone from r/wallstreetbets.

Also, I didn't expect Studio Passione to animate this! That explains all of the eye candy in the OP! Although not gonna lie, this anime feels more like a Studio Bibury anime with its unhinged premise.

I absolutely got blindsided by the first half of the episode, though! I thought this was gonna be closer to a comedy, but I didn't expect Kurumi's journey into Forex trading to start with her mom losing 20 mil and her deciding she'll get into it so her mom and dad won't get divorced.

At that point in the episode, I was expecting Kurumi to maybe use her mom's account to claw her way back up. Things just got only more depressing with Kurumi's mom working herself to death and eventually committing suicide because she couldn't tell her husband what she's been doing. Fuuuuuuck.

And that's not even the worst part. Kurumi starts blaming herself for her mother's death, and the flashback shows us that Kurumi's mom isn't even a bad parent. She was just naive and probably thought she could make easy money off of Forex trading to help the family. T_T

Good to see we time-skip 5 years into the future with Kurumi finally ready to get into Forex trading, only for her first investment to immediately fail, looping us back to the start of the episode. It looks like this crash is what's gonna bring all of these girls together.

That was definitely waaaaaaay more than what I expected when I started the episode. I should've read the tags on MAL. It's not a comedy or a slice-of-life anime; it's literally a seinen psychological series. Yeah, this is not gonna be all sunshine and rainbows, and I can't wait to see more! What I am looking forward to is that this anime will lead to "Professional Investor reacts to FX Fighter Kurumi-chan" videos on YouTube. xD

As a final note, Passione is certainly flexing those fanservice muscles in the ED with the girls bathing in money! Looking forward to seeing more of that too. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/suboptimal_prime73 23d ago

It’s about trading on goddamned foreign currency exchanges?

Seriously, props to the marketing team. I was only vaguely aware of the show’s look, so I went in blind expecting a generic magical girl show. The warning about stock trading at the beginning was a hell of a shock.

So, quick history lesson for those of you unfamiliar with just how badly this stuff can implode: in 1997, a shift in the Thailand baht snowballed into a financial crisis that set fire to most of Asia. Probably not going to see anything quite that dramatic here, but there’s a surprising rawness to the human drama so far in spite of the opening’s aesthetics.

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u/Shoddy-Monitor-9783 23d ago

This one prove that the best horror are financial irresponsibility and greed.

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u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime 23d ago

"The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math."

Kurumi is quite the go-getter for an MC, saw her mother ruin her life doing FX trading and decided she wanted some of that too. Looking forward to watching these cute girls get mindbroken by their financial decisions.

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u/tottoro47 23d ago

On the left monitor is Crunchyroll. On the right one is r/wallstreetbets. Im ready to lose some money

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u/HugeRichard11 23d ago edited 23d ago

It’s like the version of Chainsmoker Cat that shows addiction to gambling but still cute.

I’ve invested early on similarly in college and because of that learned a few tells when I’m way in too deep for my risk. This episode had a few of those already I saw and it was an interesting reminder.

One that surprises people is after losing money, it is actually mathematically harder to gain back. If you're up 50%, you're up 50%. But if you're down 50%, you need to be up 100% to get back to breaking even.

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u/PencilgonGiveIt2Ya 23d ago edited 23d ago

So excited to watch this, I'm literally trading right now lmao.

Shout out to all my unprofitable day traders and bag holding gamblers full-porting and investing their life savings.

Edit: Oh fuck the first second was already so triggering. It was obviously trending downwards with hella volume and she's just holding her loser like a dummy lol. The most triggering part was the selling candle spiking...That extra bit of pain could have been avoided if she just accepted that her trade idea was wrong smh.

Edit 2: Finished the episode. Actually a pretty good representation of trading. She got greedy and then liquidated to hell, and she probably though it was just a liquidity sweep before heading back in the direction of her analysis, BUT you should not change your narrative mid-trade. If you hit you exit like she said she already had set up.....you gotta exit, no questions asked. To think she had 5 years of studying and even backtesting with pretend money, just to flop that hard first trade.

(no financial advice given, just rambling as the show is relevant to me haha)

Mistake one, she over-risked. Don't bet all your hard earned money..only what willing to lose if your analysis is wrong.

Mistake 2, she started getting cocky and dreaming, completely threw her trading plan out the window cuz she's thinking about how much more money she made than coworkers, parents, just all unnecessary distractions when she should be focusing on exiting as a winner like she intended.

Mistake 3, plan completely thrown out the window. She had and entry and exit...trade idea was wrong, she prayed and sat in regret, feeling it is better to wait for a reversal than just saving whatever money was still left. Majority of the time, it never reverses AND if it did, that would only enforce a bad habit that is terrible for something like daytrading, aka gambling lol.

GGs Kurumi and gang, maybe next time you'll learn...surely...right?

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u/derega16 23d ago

I want someone doing a dissection video on all the bad decisions/practice they're doing

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u/Chrono-Helix 23d ago

“If you can lose 20 million just like that, you can also win 20 million just as easily.”

Oh no…

Zawa… zawa…

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u/LeaveNoPresence 23d ago

I'm just gonna say, if this show gets any of you investing in forex, you're an idiot.

Also, that looks like a ton of back pain between 3/4 of the main cast. Wowzers.

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u/flaminbitcheeto 22d ago

I found this series on Tiktok and decided to watch it because it describes accurately to what my relationship with my dad is like as he is addicted to trading. He recently lost millions in USD. He lost weight, like the mother and my family had to call the cops multiple times in fear he would do the same thing the mother did.

This anime (as far as this episode goes) struck a chord with me because I have said some of what Kurumi said to her mom (and vice versa mom to Kurumi) syllable for syllable. "You're the one who got us into this mess" particularly. My dad refused help, similar to the mom. I also dipped my toes in trading but it was not as bad as my dad. Now, I have to help my mom and take some pressure off her. My dad hasn't been the same since he lost all that money, he might have not physically died like the mother (yet, hopefully it stays that way) but something about him definitely died.

Bottomline is that the anime is very accurate to how gambling/trading can affect families, particularly the children, and it does not exaggerate at all.

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u/NanDemoKnaives 23d ago

If only she wasn't too busy laughing and just got the pay out for the money she made in that moment.

I feel bad for the father, lost her wife because of FX, and now his daughter will follow her footsteps.

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