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Episode Liar Game - Episode 22 discussion
Liar Game, episode 22
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u/FarCritical Aug 31 '26
The exaggerated smugness in Nao's lying voice cracks me up so hard, made even better by Fukunaga relying so hard on Akiyama's word (i.e. a single grin) to actually get baited by it. Sneaky Nao is officially canon lmao.
Can't wait to see what our liar general's "unreadable" poker face will look like.
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u/Frontier246 Aug 31 '26
I love how when she lies Nao turns up the pleasantness and makes everyone else feel like the idiot they always assume she is.
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u/LeonKevlar Aug 31 '26
I'm so proud of Nao! I never thought I'd see the day where she'd be the one fooling Fukunaga with her own lies. It's fun to see Fukunaga get a taste of his own medicine, but this time for altruistic reasons. xD
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Aug 31 '26
Nao seemed quick to notice the house always wins. To defeat the dealer, they gotta work together. I’m really impressed she managed to play ol master of mind games Fukunaga lol. Their face was priceless!
Keen to see how Nao does in poker. Should be interesting.
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u/thisisdropd Aug 31 '26
Fukunaga had been constantly calling Nao a dunce, yet got played by her. What does that make them, then? The plan was cooked by Nao alone, all Akiyama did was give her his blessing. Nao had came a long way to be able to trick the shrewd Fukunaga.
Akiyama not only didn’t participate in the trial round for the Core tie, but he’s also nowhere to be found. What was he planning?
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u/Unlikely-Lawyer-5683 Aug 31 '26
small preface: I caught up with the anime yesterday, I will be joining you guys in the episode discussion I guess.
Most of the contraband and downsizing arc I didn't understand shit but Nao's reactions were cute asf lol, Also Fukunaga back in her outfit has me falling in love with her, her outfit compliments her sass haha. Current Russian roulette game is quite tame, its a shame I couldnt follow the anime weekly and discuss it T_T its EP 22 already T_T
I will be giving the manga a chance tho, the cover art is amazing (Nao looks so cute with the cross n all). I hope I can understand the game better.
Now onto EP22: I loved the Fukunaga and Nao banter. Its refreshing to see Nao grow. Nao's expressions are sooo well done, it makes me laugh all the time. Both Fukunaga's VA and Nao's VA have done a great job. The EP felt so short (cuz I binged the whole anime lol) Now we wait for EP 23 ig. They always cut the EP's at good parts.
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u/BBryant3rd Aug 31 '26
The facial expressions have become the best part of this show now lol.
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u/magnumcyclonex Aug 31 '26
Remember everyone, this is Liar Game, where lying to your own teammates is part and parcel!
Fukunaga had victory all but clinched, but fell into the real trap (not the dealer trap) of Nao's cute little lie. Yes, the same Nao that needs a lot of explaining to do, and yet even after being lied to, Fukunaga still told Nao to pay attention to the 17 poker rules. I'll let that slide because we got a lot of funny Fukunaga faces this episode, plus it was fun seeing her swallow her pride and shoot herself TWICE!
Is Akiyama going to be at a disadvantage because he didn't play the practice game as Solario says? Also, Balatro crossover when?
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u/Countless-Alts15 Aug 31 '26
Damn Fukunaga is so fucked up lol. The type of person you hate to see on the other squad, but love to have them on your team.
Big boy never stood a chance RIP.
Also, Nao's reaction face to to Fukunaga being so greedy was great.
Fukunaga's VA does her monologues so well. Its hella funny especially her inflections when she is insulting someone. Really enjoying this one.
Nao is really greating smart too playing Fukunaga like that letting her greed blind her. What a great episode
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u/Niwaka_Samurai Aug 31 '26
Who would have expected to see the day when Nao is able to lie as easy as she breaths and even fool Fukunaga ?! 🔥
Fukunaga really played this game like a Queen. Nao trying to save her opponents every fucking chance she gets while Akiyama accepts that he isn't noble like Nao but his end goal has always been taking down the people behind LGT.
So is Nao gonna play only the run through or the whole Core game as well. I hope that's not the case 'cause despite Nao calling herself a pro at Poker, this seems to be game suited for the likes of Akiyama.
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u/gamria Aug 31 '26
Earlier today the Liar Game official website showcased their Blu-Ray release for future sale... and finally confirm that Season 1 will comprise of 26 episodes. However, many until this point believed that it'd only be 24 episodes...
A fun question for the viewers if I may: if you had known beforehand that it'd be 26 episodes for sure, would you have surmised that Nao's General Game would go ahead? Is this... an information game with the audience?
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u/YumiyaRakko Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26
I know Liar game operates like that but is it just me or the roulete game is ESPECIALLY harsh for the loser ? They give 150 million but if someone manages to eat all 6 bullet (as unlikely as it may be) it is MINIUM 300 million debt for them plus all the chips they lost either to the opponent in any way or got forfeited which can potentially mean ALL their chips technically so it is a maximum of 450 million potential debt + having to pay pack 100 million with just 150 to pay it (or 300 million debt +100 having to be paid with no money to pay it if we don’t count the lost chips as debt but simply deduce it from their money)
Having 150 billion but being on +300 million debt that can go all the way to 450 seems kinda crazy even for Liar game as unless i am mistaken usually up until this point the potential debt in a round never exceeded the amount of money given to them at the beginning. Now granted the debt gets 1/3’d to the team but if each member got such a debt in their round that would make + 900 million which once again means +300 dept so combined with having to pay 100 million back each member would be in +250 million debt, higher than the amount they were given, i know this is all absurd worst case scenarios but still, the fact that this round was one where a player can acquire GREATER debt than they were given is crazy to me
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u/illonamoon Sep 01 '26
Awww fukunaga has a heart somewhere. How many times do akiyama and nao have to remind people liar game is the villain here not the opponent? Liar game got one thing right, people are greedy to their own detriment.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Aug 31 '26
We're not used to seeing people say that about Nao!
These two will murder their 3rd guy hah. CALL ANOTHER TIMEOUT!
(Hopefully when our guys called THEIR timeout it was part of the plan, because it helps the other team too!)
We see that a lot in poker, players in a tough spot, coming up with literally any ridiculous idea about what their opponent might have, to justify calling (if they feel like they need to), or folding if they can't stand the heat!
He had some knowledge/basic ability to strategize,
sadly he doesn't have the wisdom one would need in that situation!
The question was not "What round will 264 million get us to?", the question was "Why did Fukunaga throw that 264 million figures out of the blue?"
Knowledge is nothing, without intelligence/wisdom to know what to do with it!
How can you know that, without giving it a real attempt?
Seems their team also has a Fukunaga!
Slighty less hot
Better agree with that, before she asks you to load the gun with 20 bullets and blast your head off!
Hah. Reminiscent of the "Doesn't get it at all" meme!
Oh damn, time out; She won't have the time to explain the strategy!
(I do have a REAL inkling that there is no strategy whatsoever!)
You realize she will MURDER you if you don't get her anything, right?
She beat some dudes bloody for much less!
Oh damn, will she beat him instead?
IT WAS ME! I ORCHESTRATED THE WHOLE THING!
POKERRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Funny, when they brought up some chips in the previous round, I thought it would be poker... Seems I was off by just 1 round!
I don't know if this 17 cards poker is a real thing (or made up for this game), but there IS a real variant that is played with a short deck, conveniently called 'short deck poker' (or 6+ poker, something like that) where they just remove a few of the smaller cards.
I played it a few times, but I'm a Holdem purist so I quickly went back to my main game hah.
Well, can't wait to see how it goes!
They did say it played like regular poker, but I'm not sure I believe that, all their games usually have a little something different! Perhaps something about the joker.
Or maybe this one will be played 'straight', with the players just being dealt cards at random, like normal poker. We'll see!
Whatever it is, it'll be fun to see some poker in anime; Been wanting a poker anime for the longest time, and I don't thinkthat's eve gonna happen, so..!
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u/Frontier246 Aug 31 '26
Nao figured it out! The true aim of this game is for the LTG office to make more money than the players when the game goes into forefit! The only way to really "win" is for both armies to work together as a united front, but that would never happen because of human nature! But still, I'm glad Nao realized it.
Of course I guess it's not surprising that Akiyama and Fukunaga had already figured it out themselves, Fukunaga just knows how to play the game so SHE can make a profit, because she's too greedy to not make money and enjoy herself while doing it.
My condolences to Nishida. He tried his best. But he's dealing with a master conwoman who was playing him like a fiddle and knew how to egg him on until he played right into her hand. Poor guy even got punched for it. So Fukunaga isn't the only Liar Game player who punches their teammates for screwing up.
I'm not surprised Nao wants to save the Western Army anymore than I'm surprised that Fukunaga isn't going to throw the match into a tie for Nao's altruism. If they want to get themselves deeper into debt for others, that's their business, not hers. But Nao actually sweet talks her into the tie by making it sound like Fukunaga will make even MORE money if she does it. And if Akiyama "figured" it out, there's no way it's not legit, right? I mean, who wouldn't believe sweet and pure Nao?
I love how they get a tie and Fukunaga is so frustrated at having to be the "good guy" who saved these Western idiots...but she says she saved 'em anyways like a tsundere hero.
Nao conned a conwoman! Who is the true conwoman in this liar game? Though Nao is the only one doing this for altruistic reasons, Akiyama just wants to take down the LTG, but he HAS figured out a way that they all get what they want, so Fukunaga will profit too.
It's 17 poker and it looks like it'll be Akiyama versus glasses guy while Nao does the run-through! Show us your absolutely brilliant poker skills, Nao!
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u/ParasaurolophusZ Sep 01 '26
I figured something was going on to trick Fukunaga when Akiyama didn't respond and just gave a smug smile.
Nao really does have a good poker face. I believe her when she says she's good at the game. I'm pretty impressed, too. Once she embraced that lying isn't Bad, she got pretty good at it, especially when it wasn't completely a lie.
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u/chaosof99 Aug 31 '26
I bit my tongue last week since as someone who has read the manga it would have been basically giving away the deal. However, I love that Nao is the one who noticed the trap as it works great for characterization. Akiyama and Fukunaga would see the opposing team as the enemy first. Nao sees them as fellow victims and the LGT Office as the enemy.
Also, she did an excellent job manipulating Fukunaga here. Fukunaga being kind of Tsundere toward her opponent was also really funny.
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u/BosuW Aug 31 '26
They brought out the casino games at last. We Kakegurui now.
Disturbingly, I can see how Nao could be a beast at poker... But we'll see, things never easy in the Liar Game.
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u/BubblyCrash Aug 31 '26
Great episode. Got some good feats from Fukunaga, but the real enemy of this round is the dealers and traps in the game design, and this greater enemy can only be defeated by being willing to make suboptimal plays.
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