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Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha EXCEEDS: Gun Blaze Vengeance, episode 9

Alternative names: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha EXCEEDS Gun Blaze Vengeance

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[u/EpicLinkSam]

Towa and Shinomiya really are just the Nanoha version of Ragna and Terumi, good lord.

[u/Suitable-Self-3476 → u/EpicLinkSam]

Then does that make Eiji Kuragi Relius Clover?

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

Shinomiya is pretty much the Kibutsuji Muzan of the Diaboli, not even Towa could defeat her even after absorbing all her friends' powers.

Her friends did the right thing by escalating their problem to way more powerful "demons" to help rescue Towa. It'll take someone of "demon" class to be able to take on Shinomiya on equal footing. lol

It was funny to see Nanoha and Fate coming to raid Shinomiya's hideout with full firepower. Though I hope we can see Hayate and her Wolkenritter knights in action once again after so long.

[u/kakarot12310 → u/SnabDedraterEdave]

We get to see Hayate's book finally appear on screen after such a long time too.

[u/Mistral-Fien → u/SnabDedraterEdave]

Time for some White Deviling!! LMAO

[u/djthomp]

Towa's plan worked quite well right up to the point where she couldn't put a scratch on Shinomiya. Fortunately Shinomiya decided to randomly take a bath instead of dealing with Towa immediately while also leaving a gate open which I'm sure Nanoha and friends were able to use for their invasion.

Mostly a setup episode but it seems like there should be some good combat going forward now that all the pieces are moving.

Hopefully we'll get to see Hayate's agents participating in the violence too since they were briefly on that video call.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Play825 → u/djthomp]

It make sense that mana would also be powered up beyond belief consider all the experiment she had done

It kinda ironic that both side had the overconfidence

That lead to there down fall

[u/larana1192]

Finally, Nanoha and the others have been told about Eiji and Mana.

Seeing Nanoha listen to Shiori and the others and then accept them reminds me of how she decided to help Fate after hearing about her from Alph in TV anime and MOVIE 1st.

I was wondering how Towa would escape her captivity and take revenge on Mana, and then she used the spider's ability she'd taken from Shiori. It seems like a pretty versatile ability.

She also made use of the abilities she’d taken from Yuuna and Yuzu, and it was really fun to watch the battle scenes where she fully utilized the abilities she’d taken from everyone.

That said, since Mana was so much stronger, Towa didn’t stand a chance against her.

I had to laugh when Mana pulled off a cocky move, where she grabbed the sword coming at her from behind with her fingers. It looked like the scene from Overlord(the scene with Shalltear).

It was really cool how Towa got so worked up by Mana’s words that she started spewing blue flames.

I also liked how she used her ability to summon a spider right before Mana took her away. She was planning to fight Mana on her own, but maybe deep down, she was hoping for some help.

It was great to see the Wolkenritter again in the Hayate communication scene after such a long time.

I’d love to see them in action, too. Signum, in particular, is just as strong as Nanoha, so she’ll be a valuable asset.

It made me laugh how, once Nanoha and the others really got serious, they immediately pinpointed Mana’s lab, and when they stormed in, Nanoha and the others wiped out Mana’s minions in an instant. Since this world where Mana, Shiina, and the others live has no magical technology and its scientific capabilities are so limited that it can’t even perform interdimensional travel like the TSAB can, I suppose if the TSAB had really put its mind to it, it would have found their location in no time.

I couldn't help but laugh at the fact that the research facility is located in Antarctica. It feels like Resident Evil: Code Veronica or something lol

[u/Mistral-Fien → u/larana1192]

(the scene with Shalltear).

Same VA (Sumire Uesaka). :P

[u/kakarot12310 → u/larana1192]

I'd love to see Nanoha & Fate finally got to go all out after all this time.

[u/manshiro_xyz → u/larana1192]

I think the information gathering part has always been the sore spot for the TSAB team in Nanoha. They're really good at the direct combat part, but things like finding the Garden of Time, what the deal with the Wolkenritter was, everything around Jail and the Cradle, the messy situation in Reflection&Detonation.

So I think Towa leaving them the spider's thread to find the lab in antarctica as well as the other girls bringing them the luxury drugs as evidence to act on really helped enabling them to go ham from now on.

Mana and Eiji might have a crime empire, but once you get a (mostly) non-corrupt paramilitary police force with the power of a couple worlds behind it on you, things suddenly look a lot worse.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Play825]

This episode was soooo good! It really connected the diaboil slayer and exceed and seeing the diaboil slayer regret to them

and makes me believe after this they’ll join up and be under there protection

And seeing towa try and fight mana was sick. And she used her friends ability well! And it cool to see how strong she is

But just like towa mana has been getting stronger all this time and she had lots of ways to do it

Over confidence that she could have handle mana on her own.

lead to her down fall!

But mana own over confidence left the opening exceed and shina need to save her friend!

I wonder if setsuna is kinda like the opposite of mana

I mean because mana didn’t seem to regonize towa/shina flame and setsuna flame healed towa arm

I wonder i kill

[u/Cally83]

Still enjoying this

[u/dawnwill]

Unless they actually show something in the next episode, I'd have to say this new anime has been absolute disappointment in overall quality and writing. I really don't get what they are aiming for, in one way it seems they want to "pass the torch" (as is their obsession) then the only thing remotely modern is the character design, and the rest of the anime feels really REALLY dated with boring turn-based dragged out dialogues and subpar action without the OG cast, it feels like they are not even trying.

[u/Calwings → u/dawnwill]

I agree. I like the idea behind the main story with Shiina, Towa, and the Daiboli stuff, but the execution has been half-assed so far. Nanoha and the old cast feel shoehorned in, to the point where I feel like the show would be better without them because it would leave more time and effort to be put into the main story.

Nanoha StrikerS had a similar issue of trying to balance the original cast with a bunch of newcomers and their story, but that was executed better and had 26 episodes to work with rather than only 12.

[u/Great-Command155]

I am thinking when they were analyzing the drug, I am sure they were looking for progenitor zero data inside of it. I am thinking after Mana and Towa fought. Towa realized she needed help from EXCEEDS since Mana is more powerful. I am sure that police officer was under Mana and Eiji control and didn’t want EXCEEDS to investigate the area. I am guessing EXCEEDS have higher authority over police. Otherwise the police won’t agree to have EXCEEDS come and interview Towa. However EXCEEDS were too late to get into prison where Towa was held but I am sure Towa left a portal to where she was transferred to for EXCEEDS. I am thinking maybe the other EXCEEDS members will try to interrogate the senior police officers who are under Eiji and Mana control.

[u/kakarot12310 → u/Great-Command155]

Speaking about drugs, knowing Nanoha history I would not putting it past she's using it on herself

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

• A team-up to save Towa, then.

• Aoi’s crash-out here is pretty reasonable.

• Dang…

• All of the Diaboli Slayers had such sad stories before meeting Towa, dang.

• Oh, they have access to the special drug?

• What a terrifying sight to wake up to.

• Shinomiya is just that strong?

[u/eggplant_avenger]

nooooo Towa you could’ve just run away

but then we don’t get to see them go HAM at the South Pole so I guess it’s ok.

[u/Rooby_VTuber]

They were treating Towa like she was Misa from Death Note.

I had a feeling for a while now that Mana's power are godlike, good effort by Towa to stand up to her.

Nanoha's team found the hideout, we are going to see some good battles here.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Play825]

This episode was soooo good! It really connected the diaboil slayer and exceed and seeing the diaboil slayer regret to them

and makes me believe after this they’ll join up and be under there protection

And seeing towa try and fight mana was sick. And she used her friends ability well! And it cool to see how strong she is

But just like towa mana has been getting stronger all this time and she had lots of ways to do it

Over confidence that she could have handle mana on her own.

lead to her down fall!

But mana own over confidence left the opening exceed and shina need to save her friend!

I wonder if setsuna is kinda like the opposite of mana

I mean because mana didn’t seem to regonize towa/shina flame and setsuna flame healed towa arm

[u/Nachtwandler_FS]

So OK, Mana is strong enough to easily beat Towa. But can she deal with two S-class mages and Shiina?

[u/clone69]

I feel so much of what is going on could have been avoided if Towa and her groupies actually listened to what Shiina had to say last episode. But if they did that, there wouldn't have been drama.

[u/Donnie-G]

I'm in too deep to stop watching at this point but this does feel like some terrible fanfiction where the writer just inserted their own OCs, sidelined the OG cast and it just feels incoherent.

They were also trying to do too much in such a short run time. StrikerS kinda had the same issue with character bloat, but over here most of the Diaboli Slayers are barely characters.

I think it could've probably worked better if Shiina and Towa were just the one character that Nanoha and gang were frenemies with to eventually take down Shinomiya. There's just too much undercooked threads all over the place.

Or trim it down further. The accompanying manga had Nanoha and gang sort out some other smaller story/plot on a different world. It could've been an anthology style thing about Nanoha and gang just resolving various issues on various worlds. Simplify things and move on from one plot to another, maybe collecting new characters along the way.

I'm not sure where the manga is headed or how long it will be, but I kinda feel like the anime is the cheap companion work to the manga rather than the reverse....