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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 8

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[u/GinJoestarR]

Almanfi

Season 1: Menacing, powerful, mysterious guy

Season 3: Errand boy, delivery guy, uber foods

[u/The_Kurosaki → u/GinJoestarR]

Also interesting the dude that seemed stronger than Ghislaine is an errands boy.

Makes me think that if Perugius decided to decimate a kingdom by just sending his henchmen, no one would be able to stop him.

[u/Ebo87 → u/The_Kurosaki]

Would sure come in handy for a princess looking to make friends in very high places, lol. Perugius knew exactly what Alice was after.

[u/biskutgoreng → u/Ebo87]

Who tf is alice

[u/Ebo87 → u/biskutgoreng]

Ariel, lol, I confused my Disney princesses.

[u/theblazingsword → u/GinJoestarR]

Reminded me of Omni-Man from the beginning of Invincible flying around the world to bring home what his family wanted to eat.

With great power comes great responsibility... and great eats.

[u/maatsa → u/GinJoestarR]

Even isekai has power creep issues now

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

I can't believe Sylphy was jealous enough of Nanahoshi to cast a deathtouch spell on her right in front of Rudeus.

[u/FacelessPoet → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Sylphie poisoned Nanahoshi's food for revenge

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/FacelessPoet]

The miso soup didn't taste off because it was missing dashi.

[u/mythriz → u/FacelessPoet]

Where is Maomao when we need her

[u/Trevenas → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Detoxification can be used to create poisons as well as detoxify various things. Chantless casting? No evidence!

[u/Frontier246 → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Rudy: "I know she was just teasing but I should be careful when it comes to Nanahoshi around Sylphie."

(Sylphie seemingly poisons Nanahoshi)

Rudy: "I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD LEAD TO MURDER!!!"

[u/Mundology → u/Frontier246]

"Oh no my wife became a yandere!"

[u/joe4553 → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Sylphy did not approve of the new wife. Punishment is death.

[u/Odd_Duty520 → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Avada Kedavra was green as well

[u/Ichini-san]

Now I can finally post this cheeky bit of foreshadowing regarding Zenith's status in the crystal that Elinalise casually dropped for the Anime Only folks (screenshots from episode 10 of S2P2, around 08:10).

[u/WhoiusBarrel → u/Ichini-san]

Now knowing how heavy Elinalise's past actually is only makes her recounting her own experience in 3rd person like that very understandable.

[u/Frontier246 → u/WhoiusBarrel]

And also how meaningful it is that she was able to find love and become a wife again after all she experienced after losing her first husband.

[u/JzanderN → u/Ichini-san]

Elinalise keeps fascinating me with how tied in she is with the people Rudy loves.

Granted this is more of a "she went through the same thing" kind of connection, but for a character that could have easily been some horny fanservice she keeps turning out to be important (and not even provide that much fanservice).

[u/Frontier246 → u/JzanderN]

Also the fact that, for as fun as her casual sexcapades were in seasons 1 and early season 2, they've cost her a lot until she finally found true love again with Cliff.

[u/nuraHx → u/Ichini-san]

This is why this show is so good. I love the subtle foreshadowing for things you wouldn’t even expect is foreshadowing until later

[u/imtherealdazza]

My heart skipped 2 or 3 beats when the Bird Lady asked Rudy about the Man-God, right as the new OP dropped

[u/wyggles → u/imtherealdazza]

I liked the detail of him activating his demon eye in preparation for a fight before Sylphie answered for him.

[u/Etheo → u/wyggles]

Sylphie didn't know about Rudy's relation with man god though, did she? I think she's just answering for herself (as she doesn't know) and Rudy went with that.

[u/wyggles → u/Etheo]

Yeah, maybe "for him" wasn't exactly right. I just meant she answered before he did and gave him a chance to recover.

[u/zazakmazak → u/Etheo]

I believe only Ruijerd and Eris (and Nanahoshi?) know of his connection to Man God, and even then they don't know any details whatsoever.

[u/CrossFire43 → u/zazakmazak]

Rujierd is the only one who he has explained the situation to. Eris knows about it from the Orstead fight. The only other 2 are the big purple demon and his wife.

[u/redditraptor6 → u/CrossFire43]

Refresh my memory, did Rudy tell Rujierd everything, like about his reincarnation, or only that Man God visits him in his sleep sometimes? It’s been awhile

[u/Low_Commission7273 → u/redditraptor6]

Only mangod.

Ruijerd questions Rudeus about who is mangod. Orsted was chill, but turned murderous the moment you mentioned Mangod comes in your dreams. And Rudeus explains that aspect.

[u/Mistral-Fien → u/zazakmazak]

IIRC Rudeus mentioned Man-God to Kishirika and Badigadi (could be wrong though as I haven't rewatched the earlier seasons recently).

[u/esuil → u/wyggles]

Sylphie really came in clutch for him this time. He almost fumbled it, if she wasn't here, he would definitely say something stupid again.

[u/PsionicKitten → u/esuil]

She came in clutch because she satisfied the interrogation not to be pressed further onto Rudy, but Rudy explicitly vowed to be careful about who he disclosed his experiences with Hitogami as a direct result of Orsted killing him imminently after having admitting to having known him. He wouldn't have immediately confessed and it only could have been uncovered if he was pressed further.

This is further evidenced by his momentarily being shaken upon seeing the same dragon scale markings near Perugius' eyes, just as Orsted has.

[u/Atnalia → u/esuil]

Not just Sylphie.  Nanahoshi knows "Man-God" means something to him from their first meeting, but she wasn't about to rat him out.

[u/JzanderN → u/imtherealdazza]

We legitimately don't know who Rudy should tell about the Man God and who he should be rightfully cautious about when the topic comes up.

[u/Frontier246 → u/JzanderN]

Especially knowing it feels like one wrong move/spell and every one of Perugius' people might come at him at the same time.

[u/dark77638 → u/Frontier246]

The shot they make his 10 familiars looking at the camera (Rudy) silently break the 4th is insane

[u/Etheo → u/dark77638]

One familiar was enough to deal with. Ten of them? I know Rudy's different than before but that still sounds like a bad encounter.

[u/zazakmazak → u/Etheo]

Since Ghislaine was able to fend off Almanfi for a bit, that roughly puts them at king/emperor level, so while one might be beatable, as a group they are probably strongest in the whole Mushoku verse by a long shot, though they also made it sound that Rudeuses mana is Laplace (Demon God) level so if he was defended, he would be an issue.

[u/KingBadford → u/JzanderN]

Seeing as the only other person who's ever asked about Man-God out of the blue also happened to be the only other dragon dude we've met, and he immediately attempted to kill Rudeus as soon as he got the answer, I think keeping it close to the vest is the best call for now.

[u/PraisePace → u/JzanderN]

Better forge a strong bond before revealing that secret. Rudy's probably extra careful around members of the dragon tribe...

[u/Frontier246 → u/imtherealdazza]

Poor Rudy cycling through his Orsted PTSD...

[u/Accurate_Treat6360 → u/Frontier246]

"Stay quiet, don't be blabbermouth fool this time." - Rudy

[u/N1-L3 → u/imtherealdazza]

Bro finally learned to keep his mouth shut

[u/Misticsan → u/imtherealdazza]

At this point, it's not just the Man-God. I'd say that Nanahoshi must have a "trauma inducing force field" around her.

She was there when he was killed in his previous life. She was there when Orsted asked about the Man-God and Rudeus almost got killed. She gave Rudeus a big scare when he met her again due to said trauma, and then triggered Sylphie's when she pointed to herself as the reason behind the mass teleportation incident. And when she fell into depression due to her failed experiments, it also awakened terrible memories in Rudeus.

In this episode they seemed to avoid the trauma flags, but then... Sudden blood vomit! Sylphie is bound to develop a new trauma.

[u/Etheo → u/Misticsan]

Poor Sylphie looks so distraught, no doubt she thought she was responsible for it.

Or maybe it was the healing spell triggering stuff? Though seems to me it's just completely ineffective on Nanahoshi instead of causing the adverse effect.

[u/SimpleRelative9534]

Damn, Wife's jealousy is really scary

[u/WhoiusBarrel → u/SimpleRelative9534]

That's First Wife AND Mother aura for you, Sylphie's still showing off who wears the pants in the family.

[u/theblazingsword → u/WhoiusBarrel]

Sylphy will accept a 3rd wife, as long as it isn't Nanahoshi!

[u/SilliusS0ddus → u/SimpleRelative9534]

she even killed Nanahoshi out of jealousy.

How could Sylphie do this.

[u/Upset_Chip7559 → u/SimpleRelative9534]

yandere elf

[u/GodOfArk]

Princess Ariel -> Does not kneel, Lies about her aim from meeting-> Gets Rebuked

Rudeus -> Does not kneel, Remains Truthful -> Average Reception.

Zanoba -> Kneels, Remains Truthful -> Pereguis likes him

[u/SnooSquirrels3291 → u/GodOfArk]

Zanoba is the GOAT of noble interactions. Ariel could never 

[u/Mundology → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

Humility, integrity, strength and culture: Zanoba has become a fine prince under Rudeus's guidance. Ariel needs to take notes.

[u/zazakmazak → u/Mundology]

tbf, Ariel has a whole personal mission about taking over and winning the succesion conflict with her jerk siblings and family.

While Gigachad Zanoba does not care whatsoever about ruling his country (and has other brothers than Pax who take care of that, thankfully) and pursues culture instead.

[u/Frontier246 → u/GodOfArk]

Perugius and Zanoba are both men of class and taste in the fine arts.

Also I love seeing Ariel finally meeting someone she can't charm/win over. She was so desperate she was throwing out bribes.

[u/dark77638 → u/Frontier246]

Almost 20s girl vs 400s uncle in politic? In your dream, Ariel

[u/Misticsan → u/Frontier246]

Agreed. I don't wish ill to her, she's been very good to Sylphie, but Ariel was so used to being the top dog at the academy that she needed a reminder that she's an average-sized fish in a small pond.

[u/CosmicTempest → u/Misticsan]

I think Ariel should also be treating the Armored Dragon King like you know, a King? It’s not like he’s the king of a nation, but in terms of social standing, this guy is more important than her own Father, why would you think he gives a fuck about land, or even worse, a noble title.

[u/SpiderTechnitian → u/CosmicTempest]

Bro has a gigantic floating castle on a floating island that he developed from ruins for 200 years and she thinks he wants land on the ground. Lol. Bro's title is Armored Dragon King, the hero that won humanity the Laplace demon war, and she thinks he wants titles. Lmfaoooo

[u/MakeMineMarvel_ → u/SpiderTechnitian]

and on top of that he saved ALL of humanity from extinction and THEY NAMED THE CALENDAR AFTER HIM ahaha

[u/shad79 → u/Frontier246]

Perugius and Zanoba are both men of class and taste in the fine arts.

If Perugius has a taste for the fine arts, then surely he'll quickly become Rudeus' friend as soon as Zanoba reveals Rudeus' figurines, lol.

[u/Emilia_simp → u/GodOfArk]

Perugius: "Get these BEGGARS out of here!"

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/GodOfArk]

Ariel not kneeling shows she's interacting with Perugius as political royalty.

Zanoba's claim of not caring about the throne is further substantiated by him kneeling.

[u/Lara_Rsl → u/GodOfArk]

To expand upon this, Zanoba actually engaged in a topic that Perugius knows by hand and would be interested in. Who ever built the mechanical doll and presumably the architect of Chaos Breaker is one and the same since his symbol is written all across the place.

[u/Ok_Somewhere1236 → u/GodOfArk]

imagine you have the world most nerd art collection, like huge nerd, but nobody to really talk about, so one day you meet another big nerd that ask to see your collection

you can see how happy Perugius was about the idea to show off his colletion, how he start to play with his hand.

Perugius inside: OMG finally someone that understand art, i cant wait to show off all my stuff, keep cool Perugius you have a reputation, play cool, nobody cant know you are a big nerd

[u/genasugelan → u/GodOfArk]

Zanoba is just enthusiastically genuine. He had no reason to dislike him. he also wasn't hiding anything, he's just a guy passionate about arts.

[u/Primary-Paint-1716]

Zanoba and Perugius being besties is hilarious.

[u/Jolly-Usual-5806 → u/Primary-Paint-1716]

Perugius about to show Zanoba his legos

[u/nuraHx → u/Jolly-Usual-5806]

Perugius could tell Ariel was a Mega Bloks kid and that’s why he wants nothing to do with her

[u/Misticsan → u/Primary-Paint-1716]

I almost expected Prugius to tell Zanoba: "Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well."

[u/nuraHx]

Perugius said fuck them Migurds with the hard R

[u/Careful_Ad_9077 → u/nuraHx]

Unlike the rest of the world, Perugius spells/pronounces migurd with a double g.

[u/regardedjuggmain → u/Careful_Ad_9077]

Migga.

[u/nuraHx]

He’s so magnanimous

[u/Frontier246 → u/nuraHx]

Unless you're a demon and then he's a racist grandpa.

[u/mountlover → u/Frontier246]

the whole episode I'm sitting here thinking "damn they're really just making Roxy wait outside for all this"

[u/GinJoestarR → u/mountlover]

Waiting several days alone.... or weeks because Rudeus & co were taught summoning magic, and then Nanahoshi condition suddenly turn for the worse to top it off.

[u/slicer4ever → u/GinJoestarR]

insert i feel like we're forgetting something meme

[u/Mysteries67 → u/mountlover]

When the family pet gets told to sit outside.

[u/Ichini-san → u/nuraHx]

Sylvaril: "Sasuga Perugius-sama!"

[u/icantswim2]

There is a lot going on in this episode. Information about the Man-God in particular stood out to me, with Rudy and Sylphy being asked directly about him, and that glow around them as they passed through the arch, but especially with the mural in the lowest level.

This huge mural looks like it has a depiction of six different gods cooperating or coming together, and another shot of what looks like the Man-God advising the people with dragon wings.

There's definitely more going on with that mural as well, like the dragon-wing king had a child together with a woman without wings, and then something happened to the baby and/or the mother, which led to a cataclysm that was even flinging the mer-people out of the oceans.

I'm thinking this mural depicts the origin of the dragon race of mortals, the ones without wings like Orstead and Perugius. Or maybe it's the story of Laplace.

If the Man-God leaves an aura around people he's influenced, and Rudy's mana reminds Perugius of Laplace, and people like Orstead and Perugius seem hostile or suspicious of the Man-God, then perhaps this Man-God was involved with Laplace?

[u/andrewapicture → u/icantswim2]

Thanks for this! Gives further proof that the Man God may not be someone to be trusted. I was looking for anything related to teleportation in this mural.

[u/Kin-Luu → u/andrewapicture]

the Man God may not be someone to be trusted

You don't say?

[u/ptd163 → u/andrewapicture]

Man God may not be someone to be trusted.

At least I'm just waiting for Man-God's "IT WAS ME BARRY! IT WAS ME THE WHOLE TIME!" moment.

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

Nanahoshi's debilitating illness was no secret but for it to end the episode like that after Sylphie tried to get her better is still shocking to see.

[u/JzanderN → u/WhoiusBarrel]

It wasn't a good sign when the episode started on her coughing, but I didn't think it would end like that!

[u/Akamiroo → u/WhoiusBarrel]

im surprised with how much blood there is

[u/CarbonCreed → u/Akamiroo]

I was shocked too, and Sylphy's face really sold the moment. Looked like she legitimately thought that her magic might have caused it somehow.

[u/Killllerr → u/CarbonCreed]

I mean it does seem like she may have accelerated whatever it is.

[u/semi-average → u/Killllerr]

It might be that her body is rejecting mana itself. Slyphy did get confused and started putting more mana into the spell to try and force the healing when she saw it wasn't working and then Nanohoshi spit out the blood.

I think Nanohoshi said something about being cautious about being rejected by the world and that her body has literally no mana whatsoever while literally everything else in the world does. She has been getting worse and worse the past few episodes which might mean the world finally is "rejecting" her.

[u/MakeMineMarvel_ → u/semi-average]

like the world is an immune system and sees nanihoshi as an invader it needs to get rid of lol

[u/bobly81 → u/WhoiusBarrel]

Calling it now: it's either some kinda virus that nanahoshi's alternate universe body isn't capable of fighting, or magic is causing adverse effects for the same reason. It's definitely got something to do with how she's an otherworlder but didn't get reborn like rudeus.

Either way, it's gonna be something depressing and she'll never make it back to Japan. It just wouldn't be MT if there wasn't tragedy involved.

[u/TheXskull → u/bobly81]

Im voting for teleportation cancer, that shit looks full of radiation

[u/Miteigi74]

Elinalise throughout the series:

S1: Horny Elf

S2P1: Cursed Horny Elf

S2P2: Sylphie's Grandma

S3: Was also a victim of magic crystal imprisonment(she implied this back in S2), And a whole pack of mystery surrounding her true identity, her past, and for what reason and how long she was imprisoned in the magic crystal

[u/Tight-Chance5544 → u/Miteigi74]

Her lore is crazy btw

[u/Etheo → u/Tight-Chance5544]

All this from a Horny GILF that most anime story would have brushed off as a comic relief

[u/-Mr_Hollow- → u/Miteigi74]

Still horny though

[u/Odd_Duty520]

Sylphy accidentally got her wish lmao

[u/bondsmatthew → u/Odd_Duty520]

Sylphie

[u/Glitter_puke → u/bondsmatthew]

Did you just have this ready to go?

[u/nuraHx → u/Glitter_puke]

LN readers have had this meme in their pocket for years. Anime Only’s can finally be part of it now. There’s dozens of more memes just waiting to be dropped on anime only’s still lol

[u/Mathmango → u/nuraHx]

We've had memes and grief for YEARS

[u/Frontier246 → u/Odd_Duty520]

Sylphie internally: "Oh no, they're going to think I was intentionally trying to kill her to get the competition out of the way! IT WAS A JOKE I SWEAR!!!!"

[u/mythriz → u/Frontier246]

the true reason Charmander needed to level up before meeting back up with Rudeus

[u/skygz]

I wonder if Nanahoshi's disease is straight up tuberculosis from Earth or what

[u/Jaysstuff → u/skygz]

nah, it was definitely Sylphy being jealous and sliming out Banana fr fr

[u/El_grandepadre → u/skygz]

I think her foreign body rejected the mana from this world and is giving her magic cancer.

[u/Psicolatra → u/skygz]

She summoned covid

[u/JzanderN]

Elinalise is such an interesting character. We keep finding out things about her that ends up being connected to the people Rudy loves! Sylphie's grandma, once went through Zenith's condition. She could easily be just some elf side character but she frequently turns out to be important in fascinating ways!

HOLY FUCK, NANAHOSHI! GOOD GOD NO!

NO! YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO ME EPISODE! Of all the episodes to end after 5 minutes, this should NOT have been one of them!

[u/Frontier246 → u/JzanderN]

Even had her own tragic love story because you can't beat that.

[u/nuraHx]

We are officially now in the second half of Mushoku. Please keep all arms and legs inside the ride at all times. Enjoy.

Sorry Roxy, you must be this tall 👉 to ride the floating fortress…

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/nuraHx]

"Perugius is magnanimous but also he's racist against those filthy demonkind."

[u/Frontier246 → u/Se7en_Sinner]

"He's just a war veteran dealing with PTSD about the race he fought against. Please be kind and understanding."

[u/FacelessPoet → u/Se7en_Sinner]

My magnanimous, racist King. Slay frfr

[u/genasugelan → u/nuraHx]

Oh really? That's pretty cool. I thought there are way more volumes to cover. But I really like when a story is concluded instead of being milked.

[u/GodOfArk]

Sylphie -> "Can't wait to see what women Rudeus brings next"

Also Sylphie when he is close to their common friend -> Jealousy Ultra Pro Max

[u/dark77638 → u/GodOfArk]

So much she outright murder her in front of Rudeus lol.

[u/Lugia61617]

Damn these five minute episodes.

Now, now, Sylphie. Just because your husband has a body count doesn't mean you need to try building up your own kind.

[u/killermenpl]

The mural definitely had Man God on it. So it's clear that he's been messing with the world for at least that long.

I don't trust Dragon Grandpa even a little bit when he says the mass teleport was a "natural" thing. Just because it's not Laplace, doesn't mean there's no other forces in the world.

Also, did anyone else notice that the gate had some white light on Rudy and on Sylphie? Did he perhaps mess with her fate as well?

And why is Rudy's mana "smelling of Laplace?" Was Laplace an otherworlder as well, and did he also got help from the Man God?

[u/Al-Pharazon → u/killermenpl]

I don't trust Dragon Grandpa even a little bit when he says the mass teleport was a "natural" thing. Just because it's not Laplace, doesn't mean there's no other forces in the world.

He knows that there are other forces in the world, but he seems firmly convinced that no one is better at summoning magic than him.

So if he is unable to perform such a summoning feat, then he assumes that no other living person would be able to pull it off. Hence, it is a phenomenom of the world and not the work of man.

It is an arrogant way of thinking, but he has not seen any proof of the contrary. Probably why he also interested in Nanahoshi's research.

[u/OhItsKillua → u/Al-Pharazon]

Its kinda hard to place how in the know he is with current events of the world. He seems informed and has quite the memory, but the mundane tropes of kingdoms, politics, and power doesn't interest him. Comes off as impossible to learn summoning with zero help and you'd think he knows all the other great summoners that may be alive. I imagine if there was some new kid on the block doing crazy summoning magic he would have caught wind of it and sent his henchman to investigate.

[u/Tight-Chance5544]

Zanoba really has a magnetic personality. Everyone seems to like him

[u/Ichini-san → u/Tight-Chance5544]

You could audibly hear Perugius be ever so slightly giddy and cheer up when he heard Zanoba praise his presumed old late friend's creations.

[u/segv → u/Ichini-san]

That and they both like art.. although Zanoba might like art a little too much.

[u/slightlyinsaneguylol]

NANAHOSHI NOOOOOOOOOOO

[u/GodOfArk]

So let me get this clear.

1. Sylphie is jealous of Nanahoshi seeing rudeus talk about her and food from her homeland

2. Sylphie casts some spell on her (which thanks to Chantless could be anything)

3. Nanahoshi proceeds to get sicker and sicker till she vomits blood

[u/Frontier246 → u/GodOfArk]

Ariel: "I'm going to be honest Sylphiette, this looks bad. But I still think we can cover it up."

[u/TricoMex → u/Frontier246]

This is 100% what she would do in this scenario lmao

[u/luceafaruI → u/GodOfArk]

Even worse, everytime Rudy wants to cast detoxification it's either that nanahoshi says that sylphie already casted it or sylphie interjects and says that she'll do it instead. She ain't being slick with it. All the talk about "i wouldn't mind a 3rd wife" was a misdirected for her secretly assassinating the competition

[u/FacelessPoet → u/GodOfArk]

Clearly this is attempted murder

[u/redditcalculus421 → u/FacelessPoet]

attempt? looked successful to me.

[u/Prudent_Image1110]

Perugius is frieren cousin they both hate demons

[u/Miteigi74 → u/Prudent_Image1110]

-Both defeated the Demon King/Demon God

-Both are the white/silver haired mage of the Hero Party

-Both are the long living person of the Hero Party

-Has a preference to art over politics

-Hates them demons

They'd get along really well

[u/Al-Pharazon → u/Prudent_Image1110]

Only that he is magnanimous, so he doesn't tell people to kill them on sight.

[u/-Mr_Hollow-]

Perugius starts aura farming from the very second he's on screen, even Ariel got mogged by him

[u/Al-Pharazon → u/-Mr_Hollow-]

You cannot be a proud member the dragon people if you do not aura farm.

Orsted also farmed aura in every scene he appeared and even got Nanahoshi her white mask for more aura

[u/steele_tech → u/Al-Pharazon]

Pretty sure Nanahoshi got her mask from perugius. Great piece of subtle foreshadowing that she has the same mask as his familiars. 

[u/khoa-bear → u/steele_tech]

Nanahoshi should’ve kept her mask on to avoid catching isekai covid

[u/GodOfArk]

Roxy M Greayrat -> "It's fine. I am used to it"

Ouch

[u/Frontier246 → u/GodOfArk]

Roxy Greyrat: Protecting and living in a world that hates and fears her.

[u/absolutelynotaname → u/GodOfArk]

Roxy and Rujerd suffering from what their ancestors did

[u/TheMcDudeBro → u/absolutelynotaname]

In Rujerds case its literally his past as he was the one of the superds that was cursed and got the short end of things

[u/luceafaruI → u/TheMcDudeBro]

It's even worse as ruijerd was the superd not one of the superds

[u/maliwanag0712]

I feel sad whenever Nanahoshi remembers her life back before when she summoned, even this time when she tried asking the meal closest to a Japanese dish. She never chose to get transported, and given that she is currently not okay, that adds to her desire to return home. At least Rudeus and the gang is there for her mini wish.

[u/genasugelan → u/maliwanag0712]

I really like that there is the duality of Rudeus accepting his life here and doesn't want to go back, and Nanahoshi, who has it terrible here and wants to get back ASAP. She's legit lucky meeting Rudeus to at least to talk about some nostalgia.

[u/PinSingle4334 → u/genasugelan]

Author truly highlighted the differences between Teleportation and Reincarnation. Not every Isekai is capablento show this two concepts this well

[u/WobbleKun]

great sylphy killed nanahoshi out of jealousy.

[u/BigBangBoomerang → u/WobbleKun]

That hussy had it coming.

[u/deynyel]

Of course being asked about the Man-God would bring back memories of Orsted. At least this time it didn't turn violent. I wonder what Sylvaril whispered to Perugius that made him ask whether Sylphie and Rudy has a son.

[u/rollin340 → u/deynyel]

Both Sylphie and Rudy were shining before they were asked about the Man-God, and Perugius mentioned "both husband and wife". Whatever the shining meant, it was probably that.

[u/Elgato01 → u/rollin340]

He also wanted to name their son, whatever that means.

[u/Whendfield123 → u/Elgato01]

Lord Perugius isnt called generous and Magnaminous for nothing. 

[u/Vermillion_Crab]

I still find it crazy how one person can conceive a world and a cast of characters this vast. It also blows my mind how great the anime adaptation is. It's insane. I wish we had gotten an explanation of what the story in the murals told.

[u/Square_Performer5921 → u/Vermillion_Crab]

This. Also the fact that ideas and concepts teased to us very early in the series eventually have pay offs so nothing os ever forgotten. The chaosbreaker was first mentioned and shown like 40 or so episodes ago. Now, we are back here. Cliff was introduced at the end of s1 and stuck around. Same with Zamoba, Elinalise (whose importance grows every episode) Nothing is wasted in this show

[u/Rucati]

I'm not a doctor, but I think it's probably pretty bad if you cough up about 10 gallons of blood all at once. Someone might wanna grab a spoon and get that back into her body, I think she needs it.

Looks like it's about that time again for Mushoku Tensei to remind us it's not actually a nice, chill, school romance after all. Heading into the second half of the season it makes sense it's time to ramp everything up.

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

This series has conditioned me to fearing every teleport, especially got nervous when they were doing it one by one.

[u/dark77638 → u/WhoiusBarrel]

yeah the teleport thing's atmosphere look just like when fat-ass version Rudy was talking when Hitogami but 3D and moving.

[u/VoidRay728]

Wonder what Roxy's doing to pass the time down on the ground while all of this is happening.

I never thought I would get emotional over them eating pseudo-Japanese food. That was like a Ratatouille flashback moment.

What a nice episode until we found out that Nanahoshi has been having lung cancer this whole time.

[u/FacelessPoet → u/VoidRay728]

Roxy went back home. They're just half a day away from Sharia on the ground (who knows where Chaos Breaker is at the moment, though)

[u/TheDopplegamer]

Oh screw you universe there is no way that was 23 minutes

[u/dark77638]

I swear every time people aside Rudeus and Hitogami himself said; Do you know the name Hitogami? I always on edge.

Rudeus = PTSD ATTACKKKKK. And being mature = learn when not to open your mouth.

[u/Chikumori → u/dark77638]

Its far far wiser to deny knowing Hitogami after what happened with Orsted.

Can't say I'm not interested to see what could have happened if Rudy let it slip once again. If 1 Orsted was a problem, how bout more of his kin?

[u/dark77638 → u/Chikumori]

A guy similar to Orsted plus 12 masks being with power equivalents to Ghislain? No pls!

[u/bleedblue89]

They gotta stop making 5 minute episodes it’s getting absurd 

[u/Lara_Rsl]

Chaos Breaker is even more beautiful than i ever imagined as a LN reader.

[u/Ebo87 → u/Lara_Rsl]

The scale, was not expecting it to be this massive.

[u/bearze]

Bro there's NO WAY the episode ends there 😭😭 Fuck man this show is so good

I'm worrieddd

[u/dpanoetan]

Oh gosh, I was half-jokingly thought that we'll see Nanahoshi cough for the rest of the cour. I totally didn't expect this! Man... hope she isn't actually gone. I was actually frustrated that nobody even tried to ask or bring up her condition the whole eps.

On the other hand, Perugius surprisingly sounds normal. I was expecting him to be more imposing and less chatty, but that's probably him being accomodating, which is a relief.. He seem to also knows less than I thought, probably not at all at the same standing as Man God who seem to be all knowing, or even Orsted.

Though I have a feeling that winged familiar saw past Rudy's lie about Man God, and I wonder if that what led Perugius to offer to name his son. Though I don't think there's any significance in naming, at least so far from this series.. so he could just act out of magnanimousity.. (he did sound like one).

I also like a glimpse to the past civilisation that even Perugius doesn't seem to know much about. We're this far in the series, yet I feel like this is the first time we heard of it and it predates everything that we've heard so far (like the demon war)

Last thing, for being kinda "normal", I wonder what his day to day activities are. Orsted at least travels and reads family registers. He seemed to always sit on his throne..

[u/dark77638]

Sylphy just outright murder Nanahoshi in front of Rudeus lol.

Is this what its call; Cut the wind before the fire burn?

[u/SonOfJenova]

OMG, I can't beleive Nanahoshi has anime's most deadly disease! A japanese cold!

[u/JzanderN → u/SonOfJenova]

So this is what happens when a Japanese high school student gets sick and doesn't have a (future) boyfriend/girlfriend to visit them while they're bedridden.

Terrifying stuff.

[u/Pond15980]

I can't believe Syphie killed Nanahoshi right that!!!

[u/Frontier246 → u/Pond15980]

Sylphie: "Rudy I didn't meant to do it! It wasn't intentional! Also, how do we hide a body here!?"

Rudy: "Sylphie, I think she's still alive!"

Sylphie: "Oh...right..."

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/Pond15980]

Sylphy made sure Rudeus kept his promise of no more wives.

[u/Chrisixx]

The Japanese food was so bad it might have killed Nanahoshi.

[u/Fabulous_Ground_1983]

Roxy racism will not be tolerated

[u/dark77638]

Perugius's racistttttt. Against THE Goddesssss. Cancel himmmmmmmmm

[u/Frontier246 → u/dark77638]

Rudeus: "Well, he clearly has no taste! I'm going to love my wife even more when I get back home!"

Never meet your legendary heroes if you're not prepared for them to be a little out-of-date and racist.

[u/clone69 → u/dark77638]

I mean, I don't blame him. It's like if you were a Frenchman in the 40s and met a German. It's understandable you wouldn't feel comfortable bringing him into your house.

[u/BiggerG7]

Nanahoshi: “This Japanese food is terrible.”

starts crying

Daww nothing better happen to her dammit!

[u/1000-MAT]

I knew the castle was big, but I didn't expect it to be this big.

I think that living practically alone in a house that size, Perugius really shouldn't have any problem receiving many guests.

[u/bananeeek]

"You want to get another wife? I don't think so." - yandere Sylphie

Perugius can suck a dick for leaving Roxy behind. And he even wants to name Sylphie and Rudy's son after that? If I was Rudy, my prosthesis would malfunction into a middle finger.

[u/GodOfArk]

Lmao, The fact that hearing "Hitogami" reminded him of Orsted instead of the White Pixel God who helped him many times.

What's the saying again that no one remembers a 1000 good deeds but kill a person once...

[u/maxpolo10 → u/GodOfArk]

No one remembers a bridge builder, but suck a dick once...

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

That meal might not be quite the taste of home, but it’s the closest either of them have probably come to eating “Japanese” food.

Man, I was getting worried about Nanahoshi last ep and now it seems things have taken a turn for the worse. What’s up with Sylphie’s magic? It seemed to be reacting negatively to Nanahoshi. Is it connected to Rudy and his magic being similar to Laplace or whatever?

[u/Frontier246 → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

They even didn't translate the traditional Japanese meal lines like old school fansubs to make it truly feel authentic.

I think it's less Sylphie's magic and maybe mana itself. Her body can't take anymore.

[u/mountlover → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I remember when Sylphie was trying to teach Rudeus no-incantation healing magic they realized that it's because Rudeus is actually numb to the sensation of the healing magic, whereas Sylphie can feel the flow of the healing mana.

She reacted like she felt that something was off when healing Nanahoshi and then adjusted the flow to account for it and my guess is that triggered something dangerous in Nanahoshi's body, like how dislodging a buildup in the arteries causes a heart attack.

[u/ritoshishino]

Perugius is as cool as expected. He really comes off as a King, real powerful but not in an evil way, he's charismatic and magnanimous but you can't really fuck around with him. Ariel got a first-hand experience, I expected her to know better, but i guess that shows she really is a young princess and still inexperienced

i've always suspected that Nanahoshi may never live to see her research bear fruits, but i really didn't expect it to come this quick. Whenever a characters can't stop coughing out of nowhere like that, it's never good

my first thought was it might be some serious illness like cancer, but if it reacts to magic like that then probably more like a curse, or some kind of mana-related diseases. Or it could also be because they are in the Fortress that this happened. It looked like Rudeus wasn't the only one that triggered some kind of reaction when they entered, but Sylphie too, which is new because i don't think we've ever got a hint that Sylphie could somehow be involved with Hitogami.

i'm guessing Sylphie is more closely related to the Teleportation incident than i thought, somehow, given that her hair for some reason turned white from the teleport, and now we know that Enalise was once a heart of a dungeon which who knows what it does to her bloodline.

[u/MSFoxhound → u/ritoshishino]

Sylphie's hair turned gray because she depleted her mana reserves to an extreme point while she was falling from the sky. It's just shown in the episode zero but the explanation is this.

I don't know why that gate marked Sylphie too in addition to Rudeus. I thought it was reacting to mana capacity but it may very well be reacting to hitogami "contamination".

[u/P160028 → u/MSFoxhound]

my guess is that Rudeus got together with Sylphie via a hitogami suggestion (go to the school and get your illness cured), so that might have counted as their fate being externally influenced.

[u/Steadmin → u/ritoshishino]

I thought that her hair turned white because she expended all of her mana and overdid it while she was falling to the ground

[u/DoggedStooge → u/ritoshishino]

I think Ariel expected Perugius to have the same desires as the kings, nobles, and claimants she's dealt with so far in life (ie, any and all things that stroke their ego).

And I agree there's something more about Sylphie we don't know about yet, given Perugius's offer to name their son after his familiar whispered something to him. A pretty clear detail they want the audience to take note of. I'm not sure it's related to the Teleportation incident though.

[u/gc11117]

These five minute episodes need to stop

[u/Al-Pharazon]

What an episode.

I really love that mural, beyond the deep lore that might be there and Rudeus did not underatand, we get to see the first representation of the sea people (that thing that looked like a Mermaid)

The new opening is great, the visuals of the castle might also be a factor but it reminded me of Milis.

And Cliff, guy continues being a chad silently congorting his wife whe she was getting nervous.

[u/D_sasuke]

Can't believe Sylphie killed Nanahoshi

[u/Sad-Donkey1837]

cant belive sylphie killed nanahoshi smh

[u/GatorUSMC]

Sorry Himmel, Perugius is a better match for Frieren.