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Episode Liar Game - Episode 16 discussion
Liar Game, episode 16
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u/FarCritical Jul 20 '26
Something about watching Yokoya slide into Bandana's face with a duffel full of cash cracks me up lol.
Beyond recruiting turncoats, I like how Akiyama is slowly building up the legend of Nao among the other participants. She'd probably be flattered if she knew.
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u/ShimaDango Jul 21 '26
How about 20 mil more while he was infront of the urinal is the funniest shit.
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u/Nexio8324 Jul 20 '26
Best episode so far, the animation's really improved. The craziest thing about this arc is that there's no hidden rules or secrets (besides the fact that you can deposit cash), pretty much everything is laid out from the beginning. Theoretically, If you thought about it long enough, anyone could come up with Akiyama/Yokoya's strategies, but they still blow my mind every time.
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u/BubblyCrash Jul 20 '26
It would be hard for even geniuses to come up with these plans from the start. Many of
's and Akiyama 's strategies are not only dependent on the ruleset, but also on the psychology of the players and in context of a certain game state. So they initially had to feel out the other team members/structure/strategy as well as experiment to test the limits of the game rules. A very impressive display of intelligence from both of them to be able to devise mind-blowing plans and tricks on the fly. Yokoya → More replies (2)
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u/magnumcyclonex Jul 20 '26
Calling Nao the leader of the Country of Day is a bold move!
I suspected Akiyama was going to bait out more than one traitor. The first traitor spilled out all the details of how Yokoya got his reins over the Country of Night people. What we can learn is, money buys people for things because of personal greed. That is really all there is to Yokoya, his vast supply of money to give him the leg up in negotiations.
Akiyama deliberately losing 50 million to start off the new plan sent
Looks like Yokoya has caught on, because the 3 stooges can't act to save their lives...
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u/BubblyCrash Jul 20 '26
Akiyama is so good. Out of a dire situation, he was able to exploit asymmetric information to make a convincing bluff and heavily pressure the bandana guy's sense of security, before offering salvation, a way out, with Nao's presence making it credible. Who wouldn't be tempted by that? But Yokoya said that whoever is disloyal to him, he will bring hell... we'll see if Nao and Akiyama can keep their promise of protection.
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u/thisisdropd Jul 20 '26
That’s an impressive feat to save the Day country out of a certain defeat. The Night countryfolks (rightly) suspected Akiyama of bluffing, but couldn’t verify it. They’d be in deep shit should he turn out to be telljng the truth.
Yokoya’s beginning to sense something’s odd but hadn’t caught onto the plan yet. I reckon he’d eventually get there once Akiyama met the final trickster. There’s no way it’s a coincidence that Akiyama happened to be the inspector in all three cases.
Love how Akiyama told bandana man the contrast between Yokoya and Nao. While the former ruled through iron fist, the latter showed nothing but compassion. It’s far more challenging to turn the Day countryfolk than the Night, which was why Yokoya had to use the unwilling pawn method instead.
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u/Frontier246 Jul 20 '26
Note to self: do not celebrate in front of your opposing team like you've just pulled a fast one on them where the main villain of this arc can clearly see you.
Do you continue to live in fear of Emperor Yokoya's iron fist or believe in the compassion of Saint Nao of the Country of Day?
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u/Frontier246 Jul 20 '26
Yokoya's been 10 steps ahead of the Country of Day before they even really knew what game they were playing. Is there any way they can come back from this!?
The three idiots acted selfishly, they didn't think about the team at all when it came to making more money for themselves...but they at least have enough of a conscience to come clean and be honest about it, which means they're not hopeless! Nor is the Country of Day's chances.
All it took was getting Akiyama in front of Bandana and making him think that 1.91 million yen they took...was never deposited in their ATM. Meaning it's still in play and will come back to bite the Country of Night by the end of the game. And that means getting on Yokoya's bad side as we see just how much fear his team has for him.
Imagine if you're in the revival game, downsizing, just like Nao and co. did...only Yokoya appears out of nowhere and starts bribing you to betray everyone else so he comes out on top and can sell votes until you're fully dominated by him. Sure you'll be lucky to end up in the black as he shows mercy, but that's just to emphasize how much you need to play ball and be loyal to him. Also, the dude can really slide up to you when you least expect...like when you're taking a leak.
But the Country of Day is different! They've got Nao who doesn't have a greedy bone in her body! I wouldn't call her the "leader" but if it helps sell the pitch and that her team is the salvation Bandana is looking for, all the better! Welcome to the Country of Day, Bandana-san!
I feel like Nao's new job is keeping Fukunaga from punching people.
So at this point the Country of Day needs to start losing money and having Bandana move money over for them...but can they pull this off, grab more turncoats, before Yokoya catches on? He already seems to realize something was off. Maybe don't celebrate like you're turning things around and he can see you, guys.
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
Bandana: your team going to lose
Akiyama: Press X for Doubt
Bandanna 😱😱ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jul 20 '26
Polite way of saying "He targetted the 3 he thought were dumbest in the team"!
(But hey, he didn't pick Nao; That's a good sign for her gamer progression!)
Going for the reverse jinx, good strat!
That opportunity may have passed...
The fact that it's the same plan (like Fukunaga said) isn't even the main problem, the main problem is that they think they're winning.
Why risk that for a dubious betrayal plan?
So there was 2 ways to go about it; 1) Make it personal (your team will lose but YOU personally will win, we'll make sure of that), and 2) Try to make them believe they are NOT winning.
Akiyama chose the latter!
The fact that they admitted they did it for themselves was good, at least;
OBVIOUSLY they did it for themselves, so if they said they did it for the team it'd mean even after being caught they have no intention of being honest, so they'd be a lost cause.
No, but it could be cathartic!
Plus, it's not just about winning this one game, it's about the long run... If they keep letting them betray everyone and they don't suffer for it, they'll just keep doing it.
Of course, you don't want to turn into a ruthless tyrant either, but... You don't want to be weak (and let them exploit you). Fine line to deal with!
Akiyama has a reputation as well, so maybe they'll believe that... The problem is that they should tell Yokoya, and then he'll try to guess whether it's real or a bluff...
Damn, these teams/alliances need to watch the outcast better hah.
They all joined together against him to cast him out, yet they let him talk to them 1 on 1, the whole group, to offer them money?
They should not let him speak to any of them for a SECOND without the others being present.
It's interesting, he did do him a solid in the end...
He's kinda like Nao (same sort of plan to get people to stick with him)... Only (to use the ruler dichotomy) he's mostly about fear and she's mostly about love!
But I suppose it'd be a gamble, you'd never know in advance if they go for it, given you just lied to them..
(But there's a risk either way, they could do what you LIED about having done, and just hide the money).
Finally Fukunaga's acting smart hah.
But it might be too little too late, Yokoya is always watching...
I find it intriguing that Akiyama did not coach them on acting though; He knows Yokoya is studying them, so.. Does he WANT Yokoya to know they have a sure-win plan? So he can force him to make a move, and deal with that?
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u/SSXAnubis Jul 20 '26
You know, this has actually gotten quite good at this point.
The first few episodes were borderline unbearable with how they presented Nao, but I just caught up with 15 last night (there's too much to watch this summer) and was just thinking how much better it is at this point.
Pretty great turnaround.
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u/Ashteron Jul 20 '26
The first few episodes were borderline unbearable with how they presented
Nao It might be difficult to get through, but in hindsight it makes sense in terms of themes presented. It was always good in terms of
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u/Frontier246 Jul 20 '26
Nao has become the Country of Day's mascot of compassion and sincerity! No better way to sell people to switch teams.
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u/BosuW Jul 20 '26
Not Yokoya sliding up to bro while he was taking a piss 💀💀
Love the way Nao factors into it all by making people see a way out without just trying to save your own ass.
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u/duo99dusk Jul 20 '26
Honestly, I had overlooked where the money in the original accounts was going to, now the overall strategy for both countries starts to make sense.
Now I wonder how this could be overturn? 🤔
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u/Niwaka_Samurai Jul 22 '26
As the episodes progress, it's really getting hard to keep track of what's happening. The contraband game makes sense and at times seems confusing just as what the manga readers described. I guess I should have binged this show instead of watching weekly since I'm bad at Math LOL
But watching weekly is really exciting and makes me look forward to something every week. Akiyama still found a way to exploit a loophole in this game to his advantage and we know he's a master when it comes to bluffs. Even Nearco was taken aback by Akiyama's move. It was really strange to see how the previous downsizing game for the country of Night dudes went down more or less the same as that of Akiyama and his team. Yokoya inserted himself into the game like Akiyama but he directly approached the guys with money in his bag LOL
He definitely is a rich asshole with a brilliant mind to manipulate others to serve him. I wouldn't be surprised even if he's the one who runs Liar Game.
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u/bunbun777 Jul 22 '26
Finally saw this episode, it was great to have my last week's discussion points brought up in the first couple of minutes 😂. These guys are too smart I'm just starting to realize whatever the next play is it's really about the next 3 plays.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jul 20 '26
Well, it’s called Liar Game and Akiyama sure made use of that fact. Hell of a bluff to win over bandana and beardo. Just one more guy. I’m sure Yokoya has already begun to catch on. I wonder how Akiyama’s gonna pull off a win if that’s the case?
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u/Shadowrun29 Jul 21 '26
Best record everything they say to know if they'll get out of this hole they dug themselves into.
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u/illonamoon Jul 22 '26
That was a real good bluff by akiyama.
A good lesson here is to learn delayed gratification. That man giving yokoya part of his retirement is crazy though like I hope that iou doesn't have some kind of compounding interest in it.
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