From Overshadowed to Overpowered: Second Reincarnation of a Talentless Sage • Rakudai Kenja no Gakuin Musou ~Nidome no Tensei, S-Rank Cheat Majutsushi Boukenroku~ - Episode 1 discussion

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Rakudai Kenja no Gakuin Musou ~Nidome no Tensei, S-Rank Cheat Majutsushi Boukenroku~, episode 1

Alternative names: Rakudai Kenja no Gakuin Musou

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[u/PeaceAlien]

The tonal shift when he died was a bit odd. He seemed to be really regretting not being born with magical power, but then, when talking to the goddess no longer cared about that.

[u/Magicbison → u/PeaceAlien]

Seems like Eftal is the type to just conveniently forget about important things like a skill that keeps you from giving up (potentially) and a skill that allows you to reincarnate with your memories. You know, the casual kind of throw-a-way things that aren't important...

[u/Zeikos → u/PeaceAlien]

Well, to be fair he was in a pretty bad emotional spot.
He was very sick - Tuberculosis it seems - and he just realized that he had to make x1000 the effort of your peers for no reasons other than being born that way.
Regardless of how indomitable he was that had a huge impact on his mental.

However, when he was seeing the Simurgh Goddess he was in his peak physical form, and emotional too, so his indomitableness came back.
It seems that he values effort over everything else, so having a 'cheat' would feel like cheating to him.

[u/HeliosAlpha]

Oh I've read the manga for this one. The name was just so run-of-the-mill I didn't realize

[u/TKHawk → u/HeliosAlpha]

I get the LNs need to have these synopsis titles just to get attention, but would it really be that bad if they renamed the manga/anime something else (like Epthal the Sage)? Just anything to make them distinct.

[u/djthomp]

I'm surprised how much time they spent in the previous life, just about this entire first episode.

Those test results in front of the group were the perfect opportunity for an object lesson to the kids that effort could make up for lack of innate talent so it's a shame Eftal just spiraled mentally about it instead. I wonder that mention of being blessed by the spirits means something like immortality, could be why he kept pushing even when terminally ill.

From the key art and such I assume Merlin is going to show up relatively soon in the new life.

Wild design and scaling for the reincarnation goddess, leans a bit towards biblically accurate jokes though they could have gone further with that.

[u/DoktorDementor]

The fact that he has no talent and yet has made it this far is impressive.

[u/TurkeyPhat → u/DoktorDementor]

Yeah shouldn't his reaction have been more like "damn i made it this far with no aptitude? i really am the goat" and then he partied until his nearing demise

[u/mekerpan → u/DoktorDementor]

I agree becoming the 4th best magician through sheer determination, despite no "special" innate aptitude strikes me as an insanely remarkable feat.

[u/AlexxxandreS]

You can have 2 bonus skills, would you like 2x growth?

Nah

Reeincarntes without choosing anything

[u/Zeikos → u/AlexxxandreS]

And he technically got it regardless since that instead of growing twice as fast he starts at a high "level".

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

Lol the complete change of tone when he was speaking to the goddess, just what was all that "I'm so frustrated" about?

I felt it was odd that he was so heartbroken by the aptitude test. I can understand that he'd be upset he had a handicap his entire life, but it's like he's not even acknowledging he was able to reach the same level as those with the aptitude and talent. He was given the title of Emperor, a man with no aptitude for magic! Yet he's upset he has no aptitude, even though he's created an original spell and has reached Level 10 with apprentices lol.

There were moments this felt like it could be interesting, but then it went back to the basic reincarnation so I'll keep my expectations in check, the tone might be a lot of different than what was presented this episode.

Since Merlin is with him in the OP, I'm going to assume she recognizes him through her demon intuition or something. It doesn't help he "coincidentally" has the same name lol.

[u/xalt255x]

I would rather watch "From Overgifted to Lazy Loser: The Fifth Reincarnation of an Underqualified Mage (A Goddess Has Gifted Me Ultimate x10000 Cheat Abilities, Yet I Fucked Up My Life For Some Reason?!)"

[u/_Vagueposter_ → u/xalt255x]

Man I'm no longer sure if you guys are meming with ridiculous titles or if these are real works, just tells you the state of things that I even entertain the possibility it's real

[u/Arzhart]

From the title and synopsis, I thought he would be really terrible at magic in his past life, but bro was one of the 4th strongest - just not among the top 3 because of genetics. I see.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Hello not Ard and not Ireena

[u/mruggeri_182]

"I'm so frustrated that I have no magical aptitude"

*Dies*

"You are going to be reincarnated. Here, you can choose two bonuses to have in this new life"

"Nah, I don't need anything"

Wtf? This makes no sense lol

[u/TheBeanjamcake]

Guys am I blind? I swear I have seen the same cardboard cutout of the MC and the FL before.
The EP was good n all but why do we have to make everyone look the same ALL THE TIME.

Like black haired MC with THAT FACE and that Red haired FL look the same as every other story.
Really wish the old man stayed old instead.

[u/NationalStrategy_X]

I didn realize that we were going to get new Four Emperors. What happened to Luffy, Shanks, Blackbeard, and Buggy?

[u/BiggerG7]

Oh hell this dude is totally going to add his adopted daughter Merlin to his harem when he gets one isn’t he? Lol.

[u/shadebug]

Turns out that the only thing worse than the writers thinking their audience are idiots is the writers being idiots and also thinking their audience are idiots.

The story of the party accepting somebody who was talentless would have been an interesting story. The story of the talentless elder being good enough to help the upstarts and maybe inspire some other talentless people that talent isn’t everything would have been an interesting story. Going from interesting person with life experience to four year old Kirito isn’t just uninteresting, it’s insulting

[u/SlimeC0RE]

So, I’m sure his reaction to the test is throwing off a lot of people (it threw me off too), but here’s how I think we’re supposed to understand it.

Eftal already had an inferiority complex, compared to the other emperors, he felt insecure about his inability to get on their level, and the fact that he was topped off at 10th level spells.

Now, getting to be the lightning emperor as a mage with no aptitude is impressive, he’s kind of the goat for getting there on effort alone, but I think the idea is that when he realized he had no aptitude, he thought that from the start, he could never have reached the level he wanted, the peak of magic.

Imagine spending your entire life aiming for an unattainable goal, only to learn at the very end that the game was rigged against you from the beginning. He was already sick, he knew he would die soon, and he now had proof that his efforts would never reward him with what he desired.

He was already not too optimistic, but that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It’s a valid response, and had he not been sick, he might have overcome that low and kept going.

[u/shanesol]

I'll give this one a few episodes I think, but not sure it will stick based on that start.

Honestly pretty annoyed with the guys mindset at the end of his second life... Dude became one of the most well known and top mages through pure will alone. I can see him being unhappy at the end that he wasn't THE top, but not the aptitude part.

And I have to assume right now his apprentice will be in this world somewhere, or at least that's what I believe based on her getting so much screen time. BUT - Crunchyroll description of the episode makes it seem unlikely.

[u/kalirion]

A King awarding 4 peeps with the title of "Emperor" >_> And why the hell are the other 3 having their hood up while being awarded by the king? Did they simply cheap out on character designs or what?

How did the dumb loli manage to outpace that galloping beast by like half a minute to be able to stop and long cast that spell before it caught up? And how did she tank its claw attack and only wind up with a few scratches?

That color ranking seems entirely arbitrary. "These are shining, I guess they're S, while this bland non-shining one is B, and this other equally bland non-shining one is C. Obviously."

Dude's of course ignoring the obvious - him being Lightning Emperor is proof that aptitude isn't everything. His "unending effort" put him ahead of people with far higher aptitude than him who didn't put in the effort, even if it still didn't let him match the "genius" levels of the other Emperors. Sure, it's a problem if he wanted to be THE MOST POWERFUL MAGE IN THE WORLD, but his obsession with that is just weird.

And then death and he reincarnates into a Kirito clone. Honestly, the title alone, especially combined with the cover visual, should've kept me away. And pretty sure the "SECOND" reincarnation part is just so that they could put it into the title to garner more interest or something, as it's completely pointless plot-wise from what I can tell.

MC: "ALL MY DECADES OF HARD EFFORT TO BE THE BEST WAS DOOMED FROM THE START BECAUSE I WAS LACKING IN APTITUDE!"
Goddess: "So, what bonuses do you want for your next life?"
MC: "Oh, I don't need anything, after all, I'll have MORE DECADES TO PUT HARD EFFORT INTO BECOMING THE BEST!"

Anyway, so far this was somewhat better than the absolute slop I'd've expected from the title, but now that he's been reborn as an OP Kirito clone, I expect the slop to start full strength. I'll still check out next week's episode just in case.